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Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

170.0. "Gino Vannelli" by USPMLO::DESROCHERS () Mon Mar 16 1992 08:17

	Was anyone else listening to CD 96.9 this morning at 7:35 ?

	Well, I heard a great, live version of "I Just Wanna Stop"
	by Gino Vannelli.  It's from his new album, "Live in Montreal".

	I saw Gino last year at the Paradise in Boston and it was really
	great!!  So much more power than his studio albums yet just as
	subtle.  

	From this morning's song, this must be a great sounding CD.
	I was able to really crank it up!!!

	Hope it's already out cuz I want it today!!!

	Tom (of the old Gino Carlton Band)
	
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170.1Tomo DesrochennelliWEORG::WIEGLERMon Mar 16 1992 08:417
    Hey Tom, 
    
    I was listening to the same station at the same time and heard the song.
    I thought of you right away!  You always had a nice way with that tune.
    Maybe we'll get to play it together again some day.
    
    	Willy
170.2Remeber the '79 Orpheum Show in Boston??SVCRUS::MCNAMARAMon Mar 16 1992 09:209
    ...i remember a Gino show way back in '79 at the Orpheum....it was the
    only time i saw him and his band, despite buying numerous disks of
    his...anywy, what a show!!I had like 5th row seats, ans was taking my
    girl on a date...i guess either I impressed her, or Gino did with his
    skin-tight leather pants 'cause we ended up getting married a few years
    later...i believe it was the "Brother to Brother" tour....anyone else
    remember this ????
    
    mac
170.3USPMLO::DESROCHERSMon Mar 16 1992 09:445
    
    	Hey Willy - yeah, we did that tune with Tomato Target!!
    
    	How'd you like it this morning ??
                                                               
170.4Look better in the shadeCIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornMon Mar 16 1992 10:095
    I LOVE the song (and the corresponding video) "Black Cars"!
    
    GREAT TUNE!!!
    
    K.C.
170.5John Cippolina, R.I.P.SALSA::MOELLERIch bin echt begeistert !Mon Mar 16 1992 14:028
    It was a sad day for Quicksilver Messenger Service when Gino Vanelli
    got outta jail.  Right down the old tubes.
    
    He's at the top of my "Great Loudmouths of Rock" list.
    
    Others include Bono and David Lee Roth.
    
    karl
170.6Have Another HitRGB::ROSTThe Legend Lives On: Jah RostafariMon Mar 16 1992 15:237
    Re: .5
    
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha 
    
    Karl, you mean Dino Valente.
    
    						Brian
170.7huh?USPMLO::DESROCHERSMon Mar 16 1992 15:395
    
    	Thanks, Bri - I had no idea what Karl was talking about!!!
    
    	Tom
    
170.8RENOIR::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingMon Mar 16 1992 15:433
    Apparently, neither did Karl! :-)
    
    (another) Brian
170.9SALSA::MOELLERIch bin echt begeistert !Mon Mar 16 1992 16:003
    Well, hey, it WAS the sixties !
    
    karl
170.10I heard he's got a new one out...TARKIN::DEMARCOBlutoMon Mar 16 1992 16:233
    Anyone brave enough to attempt to do a discography of Gino?
    
    -Stevie D
170.11USPMLO::DESROCHERSTue Mar 17 1992 10:2139
	I picked up the new "Live in Montreal" CD last night.  
	Strawberries in Framingham had one, Sudbury and Acton
	didn't have any yet.

	As I hoped, it's a fabulous recording of the tour that I saw.
	It was recorded at "Le Spectrum" in Montreal, Nov 18, 1990.

	It's very powerful with agressive keys and drums ala the
	"Brother to Brother" era.  I've only listened thru once but
	I must say that "In the Name of Money" is worth the price of
	the CD - wow, what a groove!!  That tune floored me in person
	too!!  

	Joe Vannelli	Keys, Keys bass, programming, backing vocals
	Enzo Todesco	Drums
	Mike Miller	Guitars and bass
	Maxayne Lewis	Backing vocals
	Richard Beaudet Sax

	In order;

	Song				Album 			    Date
	================================================================
	Brother to Brother		Brother to Brother 	    1978
	Living inside Myself		Nightwalker		    1981
	Wild Horses			Big Dreamers Never Sleep    1987
	Crazy Life			Crazy Life		    1973
	In the Name of Money		Big Dreamers Never Sleep    1987
	Hurts to be in Love		Black Cars		    1985
	Something Tells Me		Big Dreamers Never Sleep    1987
	People Gotta Move		Powerful People		    1974
	If I should Lose this Love  	Inconsolable Man	    1991
	Black Cars			Black Cars		    1985
	I Just Wanna Stop		Brother to Brother 	    1978
	Where Am I Going		Storm at Sunup		    1975
	Black and Blue			A Pauper in Paradise	    1977

	The only other Album is 	The Gist of the Gemini	    1976
170.12Thanks for the rundownTARKIN::DEMARCOBlutoTue Mar 17 1992 15:207
    Re:-1
    
    What a great lineup of tunes!! I've got to pick this one up!
    
    Too bad he didn't do "Love Of My Life".  That song's a killer!
    
    -Stevie D 
170.13A good introductory album?BAVIKI::goodMichael GoodWed Mar 18 1992 12:513
    Tom, would you recommend this new live album as a good introductory
    album to Gino Vanelli, or is there another album you would
    recommend for that?
170.14USPMLO::DESROCHERSWed Mar 18 1992 13:1224
    
    	Well, I'm kinda biased.  I feel that virtually every song on
    	every album is well worth hearing.  If you like a more modern
    	sound, then anything after "Brother to Brother".  If you like
    	aggressive, then "Brother to Brother" for sure.  
    
    	He's a "broken hearted" ballad singer 1/4th of the time.  3/4ths
    	he's a kickin' groove songster.
    
    	This live album, to me, is fabulously recorded and is text book
    	on tastful keys, a lesson on how to sing, and (back to Brother
    	to Brother) unbelievable drumming.  No question that someone
    	hearing this for the first time would say the drummer is the
    	standout.
    
    	Also, the chord progressions are great!
    
    	My top 3 (in no order) would be "Brother to Brother", "Big
    	Dreamers Never Sleep", and "Black Cars" for his studio albums.
    
    	So - buy those 3 and the new live one!  ;^)
    
    	Tom
    
170.15Didn't he have some income tax problems in the US?TARKIN::DEMARCOBlutoWed Mar 18 1992 13:3416
    Yes, the Vannelli Bros have been excellent and progressive composers
    since the early 70's.  
    
    Joe really rips on the keys, and they always have an outstanding
    drummer or percussionist playing with them.
    
    I've loved them since the days of "Powerful People" when they used to
    multi-track the synth parts one note at a time.  They had a incredible
    polyphonic sound at a time when all synths were monophonic!!
    
    I've been impressed with them for almost 20 years now. I just could
    never understand why they didn't got more airplay.  It's sad, but most 
    people merely know Gino as a singer with a couple of sappy ballad hits.
    What an understatement...
    
    -Steve D
170.16USPMLO::DESROCHERSWed Mar 18 1992 13:508
    
    	Steve - so right!  I always laughed when I pictured Grandma
    	buying the album with that nice "I Just Wanna Stop" song.
    
    	Then she gets hit with "Brother to Brother" !!
    
    	Tom
    
170.17Ah, the memories!CIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornWed Mar 18 1992 14:1411
    RE: .16
    
    You should have seen my mother, when she wanted to get that lovely
    song, "Beth"!
    
    (I bought the album, she took one glimpse of Kiss, and hasn't listened
    to the song since!)
    
    :^)
    
    K.C.
170.18FORTSC::CHABANOnly you can prevent VMS!Wed Mar 25 1992 18:0110
    
    I hear that they finally made a settlement on this Gino Vanilli thing.
    Arista will pay you $3.00 for every cd of "Blame it on the Rain" you
    return to them you also get $2.50 back on tickets to concerts where they
    lip-synched.  
    
    Oops!...never mind!
    
    -Emily
    
170.19I'm sure being mistook for Milli would make Gino's day!!TARKIN::DEMARCOBlutoWed Mar 25 1992 18:276
    Re: -1
    
    If Milli Vanilli and Gino Vanelli are brothers I'd like to get a look 
    at their parents!!  8-0
    
    -Stevie D
170.20FORTSC::CHABANOnly you can prevent VMS!Thu Mar 26 1992 11:487
    
    BTW,  
    
    The Milli Vanilli dudes are Mulatto so it might be possible ;-)
    
    -Ed
    
170.21My GV records are plum wore out!TARKIN::DEMARCOBlutoMon Apr 06 1992 10:2810
    The only GV I've seen on CD has been:
    
    	Big Dreamers Never Sleep 
    	Inconsolable Man 
    	Live In Montreal
    	25th Anniversary Collector's Series
    
    Has anyone been able to get any of the earlier releases on CD ??
    
    -Stevie D
170.22On the Borther to Brother LPROYALT::MAYFri Apr 17 1992 16:1210
    Hey Tom D. 
    
    
    	Didn't GV do a song called "The River must flow"??
    
    
    	I like that tune...
    
    
    						johnnieBgoode
170.23Live in Montreal ...OCTAVE::VIGNEAULTJava-ManWed Sep 09 1992 09:0711
    
    
    Based on Tom D.'s review of this album, I went out and bought the CD
    since I know Tom has good taste in music.  After the first listen, I
    was going to sell it, didn't like it at all.  However, I've been 
    listening to the CD a lot since then and it has slowly become one
    of my favorites.  The band is extremely _tight_, tasteful,  and 
    they get into some excellent grooves.  It took awhile, but this CD
    has really grown on me.  
    
    Larry
170.24USPMLO::DESROCHERSMon Sep 14 1992 11:5312
    
    	Hi Larry - glad you gave it a few tries!  For me, knowing the
    	tunes from the studio albums as well as seeing virtually the
    	same show in Boston, made it VERY easy to like right away.
    
    	He has a greatest hits CD that's good too.  But I'd suggest his
    	four or five most recent CD's instead.  Not a bad tune on any
    	of them (and I have good taste ;^)  Brother to Brother is, by
    	far, the most guitar heavy.
    
    	Tom
    
170.25new oneUSPMLO::DESROCHERSWas this ignorance or bliss...Tue May 30 1995 13:4435
	There's a new Gino Vannelli CD out and, of course, I picked it
	up over the weekend.  It's called "Yonder Tree".

	Tower Records has it in one of their listen-on-headphones stalls,
	and it's on sale for $11.99.

	It's a very different release for Gino.  The Tower stall describes
	at as "Gino doing 30's and 40's swing" and that description is
	right on.

	"The Portland Rhythm Section" is Randy Porter on acoustic piano,
	Phil Baker on acoustic upright bass, and Graham Lear on
	absolutely acoustic drums.  Others include Chuck Findley on 
	trumpet, fluglehorn and trombone; Tom Scott on tenor and
	soprano sax, Joe Vannelli on black and white delights, and
	many others.  Hmmmm... no electric guitar :-(

	Gregory Hines does a tap dance intro and solo - pretty cool!
	That tune is, by far, the most cookin' of the CD.

	Anyway, this is NOT "Brother to Brother" or "Black Cars" by
	any stretch.  It's definitely big band swing influenced on
	top of Gino tunes.  Some fabulous vocals too - he's in great
	vocal shape and thanks his teacher who "has broken my head
	about my vibrato, vocal musculature, and Sinatra".

	After just 2 listens, I'm wishing there were more uptempo
	tunes - like very BIG band.  But the arrangements are really
	good.  Adventurous progressions throughout.

	I'll recommend it...

	Gino Carlton