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Conference mr1pst::music

Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

90.0. "John Lennon" by WRKSYS::MARKEY (Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging) Mon Dec 09 1991 15:05

    Well folks, some days I wonder ...
    
    Someone started to write a note about John Lennon titled "the day the music
    died". I noted that such a title didn't really lend itself to
    discussion and suggested a "John Lennon" note instead. Said noter
    declared my request "ridiculous" and deleted the conference from their
    notebook.
    
    Ooookay...
    
    Anyway, this is the John Lennon note. It seems that yesterday (Dec 8,
    1991) was the anniversary of John's death.
    
    What's a mod to do?
    
    Brian
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90.1give the mod a gold starTOOK::SCHUCHARDdon't cross me, i've got virtual connections!Mon Dec 09 1991 15:4313
    
    	well, the dying is done, and the guy's music still around, so i
    think you made the right choice brian.
    
    	personally, i still like most of what he did. Certainly had a major
    impact on the business et al.  As far as culture, i don't think any of
    the Beatles changed the world, but i'd buy the notion that they/he were
    rather high profile mirrors of what was happening.
    
    	rather useless to speculate what the last decade would have
    brought.
    
    	bob
90.2I still miss JohnCIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornMon Dec 09 1991 15:475
    Re: .1  ("Rather useless...")
    
    Tell that to Elvis-sighters!
    
    K.C.
90.3VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKF.D.D.Mon Dec 09 1991 15:536
    
    I don't like ANY of his music after the Beatles, but that's only
    my opinion. 
    
    Like a infamous comedian once said, if he aimed a little to the left
    he would have beena national hero.
90.4Number Nine, Number Nine...RGB::ROSTFelix Pappalardi in a previous lifeMon Dec 09 1991 16:0013
    Well, maybe I should mention that I heard last night's episode of the
    "Lost Lennon Tapes" show last night and wondering why this ugliness is
    still on the air.  It started out as an excuse to air private demos and
    rarities.  It has stooped now to a "fantasy" episode: a "simulated"
    concert by J&Y if he hadn't died and gone on to tour in 1981.
    
    Coming up next: John goes on "Hollywood Squares", Yoko reveals her
    affair with Geraldo and a simulation of a concert with John, Jimi and
    Miles Davis.  8^)  8^)
    
    Accckkkk.....
    
    							Brian
90.5USPMLO::DESROCHERSTue Dec 10 1991 08:4312
    
    	John Lennon is the reason I took up music by playing the
    	guitar.  I was "playing trucks" with my little cousins when
    	my older cousin ran around yelling "the Beatles are on Ed
    	Sullivan, the Beatles are on Ed Sullivan"!!!!  I had no idea
    	what he was talking about but we all gathered around the tv
    	and I saw John sing the most outrageous song - Twist & Shout.
    
    	That great man changed my life!!
    
    	Tom
    
90.6futuristic jelly donoutsTOOK::SCHUCHARDi got virtual connections...Tue Dec 10 1991 13:117
    
    	re .? - ya, a simulated concert seemed rather tasteless. As i
    recall his worst fear was ending up like Elvis and playing Vegas.
    Well, Elvis played Vegas while the living dead, and john will probably
    end up as a hologram playing in Ceasar's Palace some time in the
    future.
    
90.7I started the band. I disbanded it.OTOOA::ESKICIOGLUMy other piano is a SteinwayTue Apr 20 1993 07:1662
	I just finished reading a book by John Lennon, Skywriting By Word Of 
	Mouth. It's his stories, drawings, poems, and autobiography.

	Lennon's writing is funny, although his sense of humour gets real odd 
	at times. The parts where he picks up on Nixon (for obvious reasons) 
	are hilarious, but overall I did not find the book a pleasant reading.
	It is not supposed to be a pleasant reading either. It is intentional 
	that it is disturbing. His drawings are adorable by the way.

	Although the book did not make me a fan of John Lennon as an author,
	his writing style displays intelligence and creativity. I agree with
	one of the critics who says "Lennon has a playful say with words, 
	toying with them, tossing in ideas, and stringing them together in 
	sentences that ring as true as his finest songs." Well, I don't know 
	about the "as true as his finest songs" part, but the rest is true.

	He comes up with these things like "Classical Musak College of 
	Inferior Decorating" or "scholarships on bedwetting in early Rome"...

	From the autobiography, I understand that John and Yoko did not have
	opinions of their own. They have always had a common opinion on
	everything ever since, quote, they've together become man, unquote.

	Lennon starts by saying that he always had fantasies about a beautiful,
	intelligent, dark-haired,  high-cheek-boned, oriental, free-spirited
	artist. He says that he had never met anyone worth breaking up a 
	happily-married state of boredom for. About his wife "She also had had 
	side-interests, much to the surprise of my pre-liberated male ego"
	referring to her brief affair that coincides with his meeting with 
	Yoko.

	Some parts I thought were interesting :

	"Yoko also gave me the inner strength to look more closely at my other 
	marriage. My real marriage. To the Beatles, which was more stifling 
	than my domestic life. Although I had thought of it often enough, 
	I lacked the guts to make the break earlier."

	"My life with the Beatles had become a trap. A tape loop. ... Although 
	even then (1965) my eye was already on freedom."

	"I must say I felt guilty for springing it on them at such short 
	notice. After all, I had Yoko - they only had eachother. I was guilty 
	enough to give McCartney credit as a co-writer on my first independent 
	single instead of giving it to Yoko, who had actually co-authored it 
	(Give Peace a Chance)."

	"I started the band. I disbanded it. It's as simple as that."

	Explaining the court case with the government :

	"In the car the first morning on the way to court, we were both very 
	nervous. We had followed the psychic's instructions carefully: read 
	the right passages in the King James Bible, had put the right verses 
	in our boots, and dowsed our ritually folded hankerchiefs with the 
	magic oil."

	Although annoying at times, interesting book all-in-all.

	Lale