Conference mr1pst::music

I saw an ad on NBC last night stating that the show (probably an edited
version) would be on this weekend.  Not sure of the date.

adam

    
    
    *Sigh*  Does anyone *really* believe this is the end?
    
    Naomi went public about one year ago with an emotional tale about
    how her virile hepatitis was forcing her out of the music business.
    
    Then, she and daughter Wynonna (not their real names, by the way)
    went off on a one-year tour.
    
    Does anybody see the problem with that?  If you have ever had
    diseases of this type and severity, you simply couldn't mount
    the energy for a year long tour.
    
    Sure, they cried on Barbara Walters. And there have been zillions
    of magazine articles, and roses, and, etc., etc.  But isn't this
    really just an elaborate publicity scheme for a band that was
    in the Top Ten Concert Gross LOSERS in 1991!
    
    Personally, I think Naomi may or may not be sick, but she isn't
    as ill as the publicity machine would like you to believe.  In
    fact, if you read the story in PEOPLE magazine that was out last
    week, there is a very significant line buried deep in the text that
    says, "Naomi disease, which is said to be in remission.."
    
    In remission!  Yeah, I'll bet.  You can be sure it will clear up
    completely within a year or two, just in time to reviv Wynonna's
    stalled career.  It will be described as a miracle from God, and
    all sorts of other "hallelujah-style baloney" that will appeal to 
    the conservative, Bible-thumping country music fans.
    
    The new album will hit the streets, and a fabulous reunion tour
    will be mounted.
    
    Call me a cynic, if you want.  But this has got to be the boldest,
    most successful manipulation of the press and media I have ever seen
    
    People with virile hepatitis DO NOT perform for two hours every night
    for the better part of a year on a world tour!
    
    JMHO
    
    Brian

    Re .2:
    
    I agree.  It seems to me that the Judds have been doing their teary
    farewell shtick for a decade.  Can't wait for Jimmy Swaggart to heal
    Naomi so they can go on tour again.  Uggghhh!

    
    Yes, I also agree with .2
    
    .. and Jimmy Swaggart will heal her on pay-per-view !
    
    Larry

    Gee, I feel better after reading the last few replies.  I thought I was
    a horrible person because I thought it was a crock of bull, too.
    
    Did anyone read the TV guide interviews this week?  They sound like
    they're emotionally joined at the hip.
    
    T
    

    
    I have the guide but haven't read it yet. I agree with others, it's
    a scam. We Heavy Metaler's do it all the time. 8-)

    
    	I don't know if it's a scam or not, but I don't care to listen to
    them anymore anyways. I've never like their stage presence for some
    reason or another. Too cute maybe?
    
    	Anyways, If she is sick, hope she gets better. If not, too Hell
    with them both. :*)
    
    B.A.
    
    BTW, Did you guys hear that the dude from Milli Vannili tried to kill
    himself? He was on a window ledge and had a cut wrist.
    
    	Some say he was faking it! :*)
    
    B.A.
    

    <set flame on>
    
    Well, OK guys, you all go out and get virile hepatitis and see what
    kind of a picnic it is....sheesh, this is the same bunch of people
    crying in their beer over Freddie Mercury?  !!!!!!
    
    <set flame off>
    
    						Brian

    I agree with .2, and am already anticipating Naomi's endless teary 
    tabloid TV show appearances, as well as the Pay-Per-View reunion concert.
    
    The TV Guide article had a couple of funny comments.  According to Naomi,
    she was against doing the PPV concert, but when her manager told her how
    much money The Judds would earn FOR CHARITY!!! (a small percentage
    of the proceeds were earmarked for charity), she was very much in favor 
    of the gig.  Naomi also commented that the year-long tour was a chance
    for her fans to say good-bye.  What a martyr, always putting charity
    and the needs of her fans before her own personal interests!
    
    I've always felt that Wynonna carried Naomi, and that Naomi would
    not be able to make it as a soloist.  Should Wynonna have chosen
    to go solo at any time, Naomi would have been forced to retire.  
    Using hepatitis as an excuse for early retirement, Naomi will never 
    have to attempt song on her own in public.
    
    Shawn

    re. .8
    
    >Well, OK guys, you all go out and get virile hepatitis and see what
    >kind of picnic it is....sheesh, this is the same bunch of people 
    >crying in their beer over Freddie Mercury !!!!
    
    
    You're damn right we are.  Freddie DIED for crying out loud, and from
    a disease that he tried to hide from the public.  There sure as hell
    weren't any "FINAL CORONATION PAY-FOR-VIEW QUEEN CONCERTS"  put
    on to capitalize on his situation. And the fact that the Judd's
    thing is such an obvious publicity ploy totally nauseates me.
    
    What was the big quote on people magazine?  Wynonna said, of
    mother Naomi, "She is a broken doll and an absolute walking
    miracle."
    
    Nice press.  But let me tell you this, if my *mother* was dying of
    virile hepatitis, I would not refer to her as a "broken doll."
    If you have ever been around a person suffering with a terminal
    disease....like virile hepatitis....you don't think of cute little
    quotes to say about them.
    
    You are right:  virile hepatitis is no picnic.  In fact, it is very
    near debilitating.  Which is why the whole thing is one giant lie.
    
    You cannot perform for two hours every night on a year-long tour
    with virile hepatitis.  Period.  I love this crap Naomi says about
    "the adrenalin from our concerts, and the love of my fans carries
    me through."
    
    The Judds were in the Top 10 money-losers (according to an AP article
    in last week's Boston Globe) on last year's concert trail.  Hmmmm,
    that's pretty interesting.  How else do you pump up an declining
    artist?  How about a rumor?  I wish I had a buck for every time
    someone told me that A.) Bob Seger  B.) Stephen Tyler  C.) Insert
    your favorite perfomer had throat cancer. 
    
    Naomi's feigned illness is an insult to guys like Freddie, who, despite
    his campiness and outrageous style, had the class to not try to
    *cash in* on a gullible public.  How do you think Ronnie Lane will
    feel when he watches this special? One thing's for sure:  You
    won't be reading about any miraculous healing or remission of his
    disease.
    
    I should close by saying I actually like their music.  If I didn't
    care for it one way or another, I probably wouldn't feel this
    angry at their blatant media manipulation.
    
    FWIW,
    
    Brian

    I not in a habbit of replying to these type of notes, but I agree 100%
    with the coments of the public being had on this one. I think that
    reply .8 is all wet. Lets face it even if she was sick, you don't go 
    around using it to make money for yourself period.  I also read that a 
    very small amount of money went to charity.

    I just heard that the Judd's Pay Per View Concert was the most
    successful PPV concert to date. 
    
    I heard about the final farewell concert a long time ago, from a friend
    who was a fan. She said it had been going on for years.  It made
    me a little cynical. Then, when I heard people had to pay $25.00
    to see the final concert on tv, I was a bit more cynical.  It looks
    like the Judds know a money-making opportunity when they see one.  
    
    Kathy

    Re: .12
    
    Your friend is full of what makes the grass grow full and green.  It
    has NOT been going on "for years" - but only one year.
    
    I'm sorry I brought the whole thing up.  I don't think it is a rip-off
    or a scam.
    
    I'm outta here.
    
    K.C.

    Re: last several
    
    Wait a minute... Isn't this a capitalist country?  Doesn't that mean
    that people can make money if they want to? I'm pretty sure all those
    folks that went to see the Judds on their tour or paid for the PPV
    concert didn't give the Judds their money at gun point.  Or maybe they
    did...
    
    Maybe it's scam, maybe not (I don't think it is, but that's my own
    opinion), but the point is that the  Judds aren't the people with the
    final choice about where those concert-goer spend their money. It may
    be foolish to spend your money on a scam... but it your choice.
    
    later,
    
    douglas
    
    

    I think Brian in note .10 brought out a very good point concerning
    Wynnona's behavior towards her mother's alleged illness.  Speaking from
    personal experience, my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer this
    summer.  I was absolutely devastated.  My immediate response was to do
    everything in my power to make sure she beats it.  It's a natural
    response - you become the parent and the parent becomes the child. 
    That's why I can't understand Wynonna's behavior.  If she is as close
    to her mother as she makes us believe, why did she allow her to go on a
    grueling, year-long city to city tour.  One thing you don't do with a
    disease like viral hepatitis is allow yourself to get worn out.  I
    believe any woman's daughter would have put their foot down and said no
    tour - you and your health comes first.
    
    It's a scam.
    
    
    

    I just read that viral hepatitus is actually three, different diseases,
    with different levels of severity. Levels are A, B and C, with A being
    the least severe and C the most. In the very limited text, it appeared
    that the type C was a fearsome killer, while type B was fatal *some*
    times, and type A *could* kill someone, but usually just is a nuisance
    that occasionally flares up. 
    
    So, maybe there is a medical reason that the Judds could tour for a
    year after the discovery of a "life-threatening" disease. I dunno....
    
    Bill

Having seen the Judds on their farewell tour (drove from
Nashua to Warwick RI) I am keenly interested in this
note.

I shook both Naomi and Wynonna's hand, urging the mother
to continue writing for her daughter (she does you know)
and bolstered Wynonna who admitted she "would need
a lot of support" for her solo efforts.

They were both beautiful and worth climbing over people
to see.  They shook a lot of hands let me tell you.

Wynonna's new song (premiered on American Music Awards)
is wonderful. It's called SHE IS HIS ONLY NEED.  

The folks I watched it with were spellbound.  Very moving
performance especially as the "sick" mom cried during
the whole thing, often mouthing the words when the
camera was on her.

It was a moment in country music (american music) I
won't seen forget.

Bye the way, The Judds tour was the biggest sellout
last year, breakign many records according to all
news flashes I heard this week.

I thought these two were pure camp, but love them now.
Mom meant to be famous and was urged to join forces
with her daughter.  How saw her career as singer
is finished.

Wynonna, well,she is great - even without momma Judd.

Still can't believe I actually touched and conversed
with the two of them - within a few feet of their bus.

God bless both of them....they can take my money and
run.... 

    Living out in the Country Cable is still new technology.
    
    I've been looking for the Pay-per-View concert in video stores and
    haven't seen it yet.
    
    Does anybody either know if it will be released, or want to offer a
    copy of the tape they have?
    
    Thanks
    
    Louie

    I just added this conference today and finaly had time to look through
    the notes.  I do have some feeling on the way they finished out the
    year touring when mom was supposed to be so sick.
    	I don't think it is a scam though.  All illnesses affect people
    differently.  I just hope you people who are so critical can take it
    when she dies ( or recovers ).  Take it as you will.
    
    Let country live
    
    
    virginia
    
    
    
    
    

    I just wanted to open this thing up again.
    
    What does every body think about Wynona now.  I have heard her latest
    new songs and want to get the CD.  I think she is doing beter music now
    than before.  I feel she will go far now that she has some freedom with
    her music.  I do hope her mother is doing better but don't want to see
    her on the scene again.  Just me .02 worth.
    
    
    Virginia

    Yup, agree that Wynona (man, where did that name come from?) is one
    talented lady.  

    Her two latest songs from her Album "Wynona" are:
    
    His only need
    I saw the light
    
    I didn't like "I saw the light" at first, but it grew on me.  I love
    signing along now! 
    
    She's still talking about how she feels so unconfident without Mom.
    I wish she'd get clue.  What will it take for her to realize
    she's a success on her own????
    
    Kathy 

    Maybe we need to get her fan club to tell her.  I am realy happy about
    her new music.
    
    Has anyone heard about the condition of her mother?
    
    Virginia

    re. 22
    
    	Is Wynona's "I saw The Light" her own, or is it a cover of
    Todd Rundgren's?
    
    
    		fred deady
    		wbc::deady

>    	Is Wynona's "I saw The Light" her own, or is it a cover of
>    Todd Rundgren's?

   Or Hank Williams Sr.'s, or...    

    
    
    What's your point???  Alot of old songs are re-made and surpass the
    original.  Her song sounds good when she sings it, who cares where she
    got it from.  I'm sure they are getting their cut.  Enjoy, not destroy.  
    
    
    Many smiles ;-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    
    Virginia

>    What's your point???

  No point, just curious.  Fans of <original-songwriter> get interested when
  they find someone's done a new version...    - Jay

    Ok  my Burst.  I have just gotten used to people ragging on new
    artist's renditions of old songs.  I guess I am getting a little closed
    minded myself.
    
    my humble bumble
    
    
    

    I doubt that Wynona's "I saw the Light" is the same as Todd's.  
    The lyrics for her song include:
    
    So take your cheating hands
    Off my red dress
    Cuz I ain't wearing
    This thing for you
    
    I can't picture Todd R (as much as I like him) in a red dress.  8)
    
    
    Kathy

   And it clearly isn't Hank's (gospel) number either ("And like the blind
   man God gave his sight, praise the lord, I saw the light...").
   Well, that answers those questions.   8)    - Jay

    thanks Jay,
    
    Does anyone have some concert info on Wynona??  I haven't heard
    anything on where she has been lately.
    
    
    Virginia

    Ok, who was the one that said Naomi would be fine in a few months?
    
    I heard on the radio this morning about an interview done with Naomi. 
    She will talk about her relationship with Wynona and things like that. 
    The last line I heard was, "Naomi diseas is in remision and she is
    feeling great!"  Now that doesn't mean that she is going to start
    singing again but it was along the lines that someone in here predicted
    happening.
    
    Virginia
    

    I believe it was me in reply .3
    

    So what is your reaction to this news?  I find it strange but untill
    she begins singing again, I don't want to make any fast judgements. 
    Now all we need is Garth to change his mind.
    
    How's it going Brian?
    
    Vriginia