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Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

75.0. "Kate Bush" by WRKSYS::MARKEY (Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging) Thu Nov 21 1991 14:24

    This is the Kate Bush note...
    
    For Kate fans, I hear (from the talk in the fanzine) that there are
    definite tour plans underway. I'm looking forward to this although I
    don't know what level of support Kate will have in the US since she
    really hasn't toured before (her first and only tour turned out to be
    somewhat of a disaster, which included the accidental death of her stage
    manager).
    
    I've also heard that she is working on another album and that her
    relationship with Del Palmer is *way* out on the skids. All just rumor,
    but I believe the tour info is real.
    
    Brian
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75.1New single outXSTACY::NBLEHEINFri Nov 22 1991 03:5523
     re -.1
    
     Kates tour (from 1979) was not a disaster in the financial sense.
    Also the shows were lavished with praise by the critics. It's just that
    with 16 (yes)  costume changes in one night she got a little tired .
    You see she also designed the coriography, hand picked ALL of the staff
    , did much of the stage design and financial organization herself. Once
    the tour finished she collapsed from exhaustion and said "Never Again".
      However considering that the new L.P. was due out THIS year and she
    actually SAID  she'd LIKE to tour again, it's quite possible that she
    will.
    
      She releases a new single on Monday . It's a cover version of Elton
    John's  "Rocket Man" backed by "Candle in the Wind" . It's from the
    "Two Rooms " tribute L.P. to Elton . The song sounds a LOT better than
    the original , mainly because of her incredible voice but it's still
    quite weak by her standards . I hope she doesn't try anything like this
    on the next L.P. . I like it , but give me "Experiment 4" any day.
    
              Niall,
    
                   a very devoted fan.
                 
75.2ICS::CROUCHJim Crouch 223-1372Fri Nov 22 1991 07:217
    I hope she will tour. 1992 will be made for me if she and Peter
    Gabriel both tour.
    
    If anyone hears more please let us know.
    
    Jim C.
    
75.3She's A Goddess..BAHTAT::FRANZChris Franz, Leeds, UKMon Nov 25 1991 07:444
    Anything she does is fine by me.
    
    I only hope that if she tours, she wears some of those wonderful
    skin-tight outfits.....I'll be there....
75.4Santa, can you bring me...SELL1::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornMon Nov 25 1991 09:324
    I STILL haven't found the Kate Bush videotape I've been searching high
    and low, near and far for.
    
    K.C.
75.5December will be magic againXSTACY::NBLEHEINMon Nov 25 1991 10:368
    There are two that I know of ;
    
         One is called The Singles File and includes material up to but not
    including "Hounds of Love"
    
          The other is "The Whole Story" .
    
                                 Niall       
75.6I WANT IT!!!SELL1::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornMon Nov 25 1991 11:336
    I believe the one I'm looking for is The Whole Story.
    
    It is the one with the videos "Wuthering Heights", "The Man With The
    Child In His Eyes", "Running Up The Hill", etc.
    
    K.C.
75.7misc...CLARET::ADEYYou CANNOT be serious!?!?Wed Nov 27 1991 10:0423
    re: .6
    
    'The Whole Story' video should be pretty easy to find (or even rent).
    
    BTW, it's 'Running Up THAT Hill'.
    
    
    re: .5
    
    Kate has 4 videos out, counting the Hammersmith Odeon concert 
    (from her '79 Tour of Life).

    The latest video out contains the vids from 'The Sensual
    World' ('The Sensual World', 'Love and Anger', 'This Woman's Work',
    and a 4th I can't remember).
    
    
    re: Tour
    
    Kate announced intentions to tour a year ago at KateCon '90 (held in
    London). But she's done this before (talked of touring) and did not.
    
    Ken....
75.8Should does not equal doesSELL3::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornWed Nov 27 1991 11:388
    Re: .7 (should be easy to find)
    
    Tell that to EVERY video/music store I've been to (Coconuts, Rainbow,
    Record Town/TapeWorld, Blockbuster...)
    
    And thanx for the correction.  :^)
    
    K.C.
75.9NEST::PAPIAWed Nov 27 1991 11:597
    
    	Spectrum Video has all the Kate Bush Videos, phone #
    is 215 272-6142 to order. If you would like their catalog
    send me you mailstop & I'll give you mine.
    
    
    Vinny
75.10It's ChristmasUSOPS::ZAPPIAsmell the magicMon Dec 02 1991 16:056
    
    	Anyone know what song she does on "It's Christmas"?
    
    	I'm not a Christmas song enthusiast but I am curious!
    
    	- Jim
75.11VMPIRE::CLARKsleep in the starsMon Dec 16 1991 13:046
re      <<< Note 75.8 by SELL3::FAHEL "Amalthea Celebras/Silver Unicorn" >>>

I've seen "The Whole Story" for rent at Blockbuster video on Amherst St.,
in the strip mall including Appleby's restaurant, close to MKO.

- Dave
75.12LEDS::BURATISave the TunasSun Mar 29 1992 21:106
    I was never a real Kate Bush fan until I got a listen to Sensuous World.
    Now I'm working my way backwards in her discography. She creates some
    extrordinary music. I like it a lot...I think I'm in love.

    --Ron
75.13NODEX::ADEYUsers? We don&#039;t need no stinking users!Mon Mar 30 1992 17:1811
    re: .10
    
    It's probably 'December Will Be Magic Again'.
    
    
    re: .12
    
    Wait 'till you hear 'The Dreaming'.
    
    Ken....
    
75.14LEDS::BURATISave the TunasSat Apr 04 1992 15:436
>    Wait 'till you hear 'The Dreaming'.

    I think it was after listening to The Dreaming that I decided that it is
    a distinct possibility that this woman is a genuis.

    --Ron
75.15DEDSHO::CLARKI&#039;m still aliveMon Apr 06 1992 12:362
How does "The Dreaming" compare with "Hounds of Love" (my favorite KB album
so far)?
75.16RICKS::ROSTMake Mine MellotronMon Apr 06 1992 13:4010
    Re: .15
    
    I'd say "The Dreaming" sounds not too much like *any* of KB's others.
    It's extremely inaccessible for most people...I've been listening to
    tons of weird stuff for years and still haven't really gotten to like it
    that much.  
    
    I'll probably get flamed for that one  8^)
    
    							Brian
75.17Best KB selection for first listen?ATIS01::ASHFORTHThe joy of the Lord is my strengthTue Apr 07 1992 09:2013
Re: general topic

I've never, as far as I know, heard a single note sung by Kate Bush. When looking
for new "aural experiences," though, I like to try artists who seem to inspire
strong reactions in their listeners, and Kate appears to be one such, judging
from notesfile discussions of her work.

What all would you seasoned fans of Kate's suggest as a good selection for me to
hear some "quintessential Kate?"

Thanks for suggestions-

	Bob
75.18CIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornTue Apr 07 1992 10:227
    If you want to start out easy (like I did), I would go for the
    "greatest hits" album, "The Whole Story".
    
    If you really want to start out with MEAT...then I'm not the person to
    answer.  All I have are "The Whole Story" and "Lionheart".
    
    K.C.
75.19for starters...REFINE::BARKERViva Las Vegas!!!Tue Apr 07 1992 12:153
    "Hounds of Love" and "Sensual World" to start.
    
    -Jesse
75.20NODEX::ADEYUsers? We don&#039;t need no stinking users!Tue Apr 07 1992 13:2632
re: .15

> How does "The Dreaming" compare with "Hounds of Love" (my favorite KB album
> so far)?

Well, "Hounds of Love" is really two albums. There's the first five songs 
(Running Up That Hill, Hounds of Love, The Big Sky, Mother Stands for Comfort,
and Cloudbusting) which make up the "Hounds of Love" side, then there's the
rest (Dream of Sheep, Under Ice, Waking the Witch, etc) which make up "The 
Ninth Wave" side.

"Hounds of Love" is more commercially oriented than 'The Dreaming', while
"The Ninth Wave" is more of the same stuff as 'The Dreaming' only all the
songs together make up a story.


re: .17

> What all would you seasoned fans of Kate's suggest as a good selection 
> for me to > hear some "quintessential Kate?"

In the opinion of most Lovehounds (the worldwide group of Bush fans (in which
I count myself)), the "quintessential Kate" is 'The Dreaming' and 'The 
Ninth Wave' side of 'Hounds of Love'. With the exception of 'Lionheart', no
two Kate Bush albums are alike, so depending on what you like it's hard to
suggest a starting point. 'The Whole Story' provides a good cross-section of 
songs from the albums 'The Kick Inside' up to and including 'Hounds of Love' 
and also the single 'Experiment IV'. 

Ken....

75.21Lagen RiverOLTRIX::ZAPPIAdive dive diveTue Apr 07 1992 13:4910
	Ken et al,

	Maybe you can answer a question someone from Galway asked me quiet
	a while back concerning "My Lagen Love".  Does it only exist as a B 
	side to "Cloudbusting" or it available elsewhere?

	Thanks,
	- Jim

75.22Well, almost any taste...RENOIR::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingTue Apr 07 1992 14:5228
    Concerning where to start:
    
    I happen to like Kate in diminishing order of chronology. In other
    words, I feel that her first two albums, "The Kick Inside" and "Never
    Forever" are perhaps her best (all arguable, of course). Lionheart was,
    in my opinion, an attempt to define her Aglican roots and may be
    difficult to understand from any other perspective. In "the Dreaming",
    Kate gropes for the metaphysical. Again, depending on your particular
    vantage point, this album is either brilliant or too experimental. The
    plus side of the Dreaming, from my perspective, is it's role as one
    of two quintiscential "Fairlight" albums (Peter Gabriel's "Security"
    being the other). If you have interest in the technical aspects of
    music this album can be quite a gem.
    
    "Hounds of Love" and "Sensual World" are both excellent albums, but the
    tradeoff for accessability is a more careful and subdued Kate. In the
    first two albums, it seems that Kate was willing to discard any notion
    of the conventional and pursue any whim (in fact, it is the whimsical
    quality of the first albums that I like). A plus side of the later
    works is that Kate, and live-in Del Palmer, have created some very
    interesting percussion motifs that maintain a dark/brooding style with
    percolating tribal rhythms.
    
    I guess this all means that no Kate is definitive as "best". Kate is
    very eclectic and can mold herself to shape any musical taste (except
    for co-mod db's :-) ). Dave, are you listening? :-)
    
    Brian
75.23another space of mineOLTRIX::ZAPPIAdive dive diveThu Apr 09 1992 13:177
	I forget where this was once discussed or who was asking or...

	Kate sings back up on Roy Harper's "The Unknown Soldier" which
	I have never heard so...

	- Jim
75.24LEDS::BURATIlet&#039;s play step on antsSat Jun 13 1992 11:106
    Heard a tune on the radio yesterday. Sounded new. Sounded like Kate
    Bush. Stopped into Strawberries and they hadn't received anything yet.
    They suggested that maybe I had heard Torie somethingorother. They
    played some of her tracks. Wasn't the person I heard, I don't think.

    Does she have anything new out? 
75.25and another thingLEDS::BURATIlet&#039;s play step on antsSat Jun 13 1992 11:127
    She did "Rocket Man" for the Two Rooms album. I heard that she also
    recorded "Candle In The Wind". True? Was it released as the B-side to
    the "Rocket Man" single?

    thanksomuch

    --ron
75.26COMICS::JAMESMSheepie for Sale or RentMon Jun 15 1992 05:293
    Yep it was the B-side
    
    Mark
75.27LEDS::BURATIlet&#039;s play step on antsThu Jul 02 1992 18:141
What about a new album? Anyone heard of one?
75.28DREGS::BLICKSTEINdbTue Jul 07 1992 18:174
    I just saw a Kate Bush collection at Rockit Records in Nashua, NH.
    
    Don't know if this includes any new material or not - I'm not really
    a fan.
75.29NODEX::ADEYI want my DECpcThu Jul 09 1992 23:148
    re: .28
    
    You probably saw her boxed set 'This Woman's Work'.
    
    It does not contain anything newer than 'The Sensual World'.
    
    Ken....
    
75.30VMPIRE::CLARKleave your stepping stones behindThu Oct 22 1992 10:488
Anyone seen the latest video by the Utah somethingorothers (that's
how memorible they were; I forgot the name already).  Anyways, the
song, "Something Good," heavily samples Kate's "Cloudbusting," and
the video itself contains clips from Kate's video of "Cloudbusting."

OK, I'll search for a life now.  ;^)

- Dave
75.31new? Kate videotapeVMPIRE::CLARKleave your stepping stones behindThu Oct 22 1992 10:529
Speaking of videos, I saw one in Strawberries containing "The Sensual
World," "This Woman's Work," and one other song ... I think the video
itself was called "The Sensual World."  Has anyone seen this video, and
is it worth purchasing, or would I be able to tape these off of the TV
if I was able to watch MTV for an extended period of time without blowing
my lunch?

- thanks
  Dave
75.32NODEX::ADEYInherit the WindowThu Oct 22 1992 13:118
    re: .31
    
    It's not new. It came out about a year after the album of the same
    name. I doubt you'd see these on MTV. Heck, they rarely played "Love
    and Anger" (the other video) when it was a single on the charts.
    
    Ken....
    
75.33JGODCL::APETERSDECcie Andr� == DJ AndyMon Oct 26 1992 03:4115
>Note 75.30 by VMPIRE::CLARK
>Anyone seen the latest video by the Utah somethingorothers (that's
>how memorible they were; I forgot the name already).  Anyways, the
>song, "Something Good," heavily samples Kate's "Cloudbusting," and
>the video itself contains clips from Kate's video of "Cloudbusting."

    Tha's the Utah Saints, and on the sleeve they mention sampling the Kate
    Bush song, and her record company. I guess this means at least they have
    no problem with it....

    Ah, well... most people buying the song will probly react with: "Kate WHO?
    Nevva heard o' DAT gal..."

    Andy ;^)
75.34album & tour in '93 (?)SMURF::LONGOMark Longo, USSGMon Oct 26 1992 11:557
	A friend of mine heard on the radio (don't remember which station) 
that Kate will have a new album in the spring and plans a TOUR for next
summer.  Not having toured in 10+ years, this should create some interest. 
Anyone have any more information?

/ml
75.35LEDS::BURATIyou&#039;ve got me floatin&#039;, float to grooveFri Jun 04 1993 17:187
>	A friend of mine heard on the radio (don't remember which station) 
>that Kate will have a new album in the spring and plans a TOUR for next
>summer.  Not having toured in 10+ years, this should create some interest. 
>Anyone have any more information?

    Anyone heard anything on this yet?

75.36For those of you old enough to rememberDREGS::BLICKSTEINDOS BootFri Jun 04 1993 17:314
    Somewhere, a guy name Doug Alan has had his foremost wish in life come
    true.
    
    ;-)
75.37DREGS::BLICKSTEINDOS BootFri Jun 04 1993 18:1623
    Having got three messages already (within like 45 minutes of posting
    it) I guess I had better explain.
    
    Many years ago, there was a guy on net.music named Doug Alan who took
    "fandom" all the way to "fanaticism".  The object of his affection was
    Kate Bush and Doug was prone to making incredible statements about her.
    
    For example, he likened her contribution to music as being easily as
    significant as Bach or Beethoven's - claimed that she was "the first
    artist to use the studio as an instrument" (describing what that meant
    in terms that clearly applied to albums recorded well before Kate Bush's
    first album - the Beatle's "Sgt Pepper" album for example).
    
    At one point, Doug's life became complete when he was granted an
    interview.  He posted the interview and it was the funniest thing I had
    read.   He kept asking her questions that implied a particular meaning
    to her lyrics and her answers were rather consistently to the extent
    that he was way off.
    
    Anyway, several MUSIC noters participated in net.music and we would
    chronicle "Alan's folly" in here.
    
    	db
75.38NRSTA2::CLARKElectric Music for the Mind and BodyMon Jun 07 1993 16:153
Is his interview on-line anywhere?  I'd love to read it.

- Dave
75.39NODEX::ADEYsolutions only create more problemsWed Jul 21 1993 09:367
    The latest official word on Kate's new album is a mid-September
    release. The name of it is "The Red Shoes" and the first single is
    "Eat The Music".
    
    Ken....
    
    
75.40LEDS::BURATIlay back and dream on a rainy dayTue Nov 02 1993 18:592
    It's out, err, in? Strawberries has it anyway. Haven't heard any of it
    yet but I'm quite sure that I will very soon.
75.41Red Shoes: a big winnerSMURF::LONGOMark Longo, UNIX(r) Software GroupFri Nov 05 1993 13:2713
	I just bought the Red Shoes last night (It was released Tuesday).  I've
only listened to it once, but already I say this is a great album.  Compared to 
"The Sensual World" this is a stripped down album in that there isn't nearly so
much layering of instrumentation.  The arrangements are pretty simple and there 
aren't lots of parts being played.  And Kate sings wonderfully and is right out 
front in the mix.  The material is more rock/pop oriented than anything she's 
done recently, though I still wouldn't call this rock or pop in the traditional 
sense.

	BTW, there is cameo support by Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, and Prince.

	Mark
75.42NODEX::ADEYThese ARE the good old days...Fri Nov 05 1993 13:3812
    re: Note 75.41 by SMURF::LONGO
    
    I find her voice on 'The Red Shoes' to be very restricted in range and
    too far down in the mix (similiar to on 'The Sensual World').
    
    Being a long-time Kate Bush fan, 'The Red Shoes' only confirms my worst
    fears. She's lost it. While TRS maybe better than 'The Sensual World'
    (only time will tell), it's not up to her past masterpieces 'The
    Dreaming' and 'Hounds of Love'. Of course, it's still better than most
    of what's out there.
    
    Ken....
75.43LEDS::BURATIlay back and dream on a rainy dayFri Nov 05 1993 13:494
    My wife bought it Tuesday. I've given it a quick listen and heard some
    very impressive stuff. I'll need to give it a few more listenings when I
    can pay better attention to it but I suspect it exceeds my expectations.
    I love the way her voice is recorded. Nice cover too.