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Conference moira::parenting_v3

Title:Parenting
Notice:READ 1.27 BEFORE WRITING
Moderator:CSC32::DUBOIS
Created:Wed May 30 1990
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1364
Total number of notes:23848

1314.0. "Son disappoints/Dad over-reacts" by --UnknownUser-- () Thu Feb 13 1992 13:23

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1314.1NAVIER::SAISIThu Feb 13 1992 13:2813
    Marv,
      Do you mean that he isn't as macho as you would like, or that he
    doesn't take an interest in male bonding activities like sports events,
    fishing, etc.?  One thing to remember is that not all boys are
    naturally interested in these things, and if he is not that does not
    mean he is abnormal.
      Also in my family my father was much more aware of my brothers
    shortcomings than mine or my sisters'.  Sometimes I wonder if this
    isn't a father/son thing as I have noticed it in other families; where
    the man is very critical of the son almost as if the child is a
    projection of himself.  Please don't take offense as this is pure
    conjecture, lacking more details from you.
    	Linda
1314.2well said!MCIS5::TRIPPThu Feb 13 1992 13:2914
    Marv, I'd say that what you've put in here is very nicely put.  Why
    don't you just repeat what you've said here?
    
    In these types of situation the best policy is honesty and openess.  It
    also may be a nice situation to explain that you and his mom want a
    child, what is being done about it, and to see how your step son might
    feel about an addition to the family.
    
    Someone here said there is a "blended families" notesfile, maybe
    someone there could give first hand advise.
    
    Good luck, and whatever you do just keep your calm.
    
    Lyn
1314.3DLOACT::BLENDED_FAMILIESSCAACT::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slowThu Feb 13 1992 13:360
1314.5My SuggestionsCSC32::DUBOISLoveThu Feb 13 1992 14:5537
Marv, in couples counseling, we were talk a way to communicate using "I"
messages.  It is something to the effect of:

"I feel <emotion> because you <action>.  What I would like from you is <action>.
Will you do that?"

All parts of this are important.  If you just do the first sentence, it can
come out more like an accusation.  What you want to do is show 1) how it
affects you emotionally (angry, sad, etc), 2) what you think would be a good
solution, and then 3) give the person the option of agreeing to it *or not*. 
In giving a possible solution, this shows that you don't just want to complain,
but that you are looking toward a solution to help the family.  By asking the
other person whether they will do what you suggest, you show that you are not
making a demand of them, but giving them empowerment to also work toward
harmony in the family. 

I have had great success using this in person, especially if the other person
knows this technique and is willing to use it.  In notes, it has not been
as effective for me.  :-)

One additional thing, Marv.  You say that his problems are because she was
a single mother.  I do not agree with this.  There are many single mothers
(and lesbian mothers) who work to have positive male role models in their
children's lives.  I don't know whether your wife did this or not.  
Additionally, as Linda said, there are many boys who still will not be as
interested in stereotypical "male" things whether they have had lots of
exposure to men or not.  

In the conversation with your family, I would suggest that you not bring up
the *reasons* you think he acts the way he does, as that could sound more
like "blaming".  Instead, as I said above, focus on the current actions,
how they affect you, and how things can be changed to the happiness of all
people in the family.

Good luck.

         Carol
1314.6JMOSCAACT::DICKEYKathyThu Feb 13 1992 17:413
    One thing that I have learned is to attack the ISSUES not people.
    
    Kathy 
1314.7GIAMEM::JLAMOTTEtwenty-eight and counting downFri Feb 14 1992 06:2615
    I found that the ages from thirteen to twenty were horrible....and
    that those feelings were shared by all sorts of families, single
    parents, happily married couples, unhappily married couples, divorced
    parents that worked together and divorced parents that worked against
    each other.
    
    If I were in that situation I would worry less about the cause...just
    deal with the behaviors.  I also feel at that age less is
    better...saying to a young man okay we are going to get through this
    together...these are my priorities and have few rules.  I also did not
    expect any more from the teenagers than I expected from myself.
    
    My teenagers were very good about letting me know where they were and
    if they would be late.  It helped a little as I threw out the
    mayonnaise ��they had failed to return to the refrigerator.
1314.8FSDEV::MGILBERTGHWB-Anywhere But America Tour 92Fri Feb 14 1992 12:563
    
    Tell him just the way you did here. He's almost 14. You have to deal
    with him just like an adult. 
1314.10GREAT JOB!SHRMAX::ROGUSKASat Feb 15 1992 15:546
    Boy, you did great!  I thought what you wrote was terrific!  Hope
    things continue to go well.....
    
    Regards,
    
    Kathy
1314.11KAOFS::S_BROOKThu Mar 05 1992 16:316
    It is a shame that the base noter has seen fit to delete both of his
    notes in this string.  I know someone who would likely have benefitted
    from the notes.  Perhaps, if you still have copies, you could repost
    them anonymously through one of the moderators ?
    
    Stuart