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1267.1 | | KAOFS::S_BROOK | | Mon Dec 30 1991 15:14 | 23 |
| First things first ...
Babies all develop at remarkably different rates ... so this is not
necessarily all that bad. The idea that she was already 7+ months
along when she discovered she was pregnant may be a clue here too,
that maybe the baby was even more premature by maybe a month because
that figure might be inaccurate ?
The only thing that is of real concern is the lack of response to
stimulii and maybe the feeding.
There may be some trouble that the mother just does not want to talk
about and hence the appearance of denial. She may well not be
denying it to herself, just to others.
As to what you can do ? Not a lot ... the child is being seen by a
pedi and neurologist. The only real thing you can do is be there
if the mother wants help later. If it turns out the baby does have
serious problems, she'll want friendship and help.
Meanwhile wait patiently.
Stuart
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1267.2 | My 2 cents! | DEMON::MARRAMA | | Mon Dec 30 1991 15:37 | 16 |
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Two of my friends babies were both premature one 4 weeks premature the
other 5 weeks. The first one is now 19 months old and she was speeding
right along with all the milestones of a full term baby. The other
is ahead of her time, her daughter is 1 day old than mine almost 9
months and she is walking and mine is not even standing yet. So if I
were the parents I would definitely worry. I would take him to see
a specialist (Children's Hospital is wonderful!) My sister is a prime
example, she is a patient there and she is 36 years old!
I think the noter before is right, the fact that she found out she was
pregnant at 7 months along might have something to do with it!
Try and talk to them, maybe they will listen to you.
Good Luck!
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1267.3 | opinions only | KAOFS::M_FETT | alias Mrs.Barney | Mon Dec 30 1991 17:17 | 27 |
| Is there someone in the family that the mother DOES listen to and
share her thoughts with? Perhaps you could communicate your concern
to this person for them to pass it on to the mother.
Does the mother have a copy of "What to Expect..."? Perhaps a gift
would be in order. Has any discussion been made with her about what
YOU see as the obvious differences in development between her child
and the others of similar age in the family?
Sometimes people who are not as open as those of us who try and
communication with them, are very frustrating to deal with.
If what you are looking for is a way to share your concern, (not
knowing how verbal you have been with this person) you might try a very
carefully phrased letter to her. If dialog between you is not working
(and/or she ignores the contents of the suggested letter) you can do no
more. The matter is in her hands.
recommending other doctors to her? Going with her to the doctor? All
these suggestions are out of ignorance; not knowing how close "close"
is between you and other family members. You'll have to use instincts
(and Kindness! As the previous reply said, if there IS a problem with
the baby, being open and giving support will help).
Monica
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1267.4 | good luck with this tough problem | CNTROL::STOLICNY | | Tue Dec 31 1991 06:44 | 23 |
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Wendy -
I agree that this child sounds somewhat behind developmentally
and also that his weight is quite low for his age - maybe
what you'd call a "failure to thrive". However, please keep
in mind that all children develop at different rates. A 10-month
old walker is pretty *super* in my opinion, so try not to compare
too much.
It is quite possible that if your cousin didn't realize her pregnancy
until so late that her pre-natal care was severely lacking and that
the baby may be suffering as a consequence of that.
Personally, I would absolutely not call DSS until *all* other
avenues have been pursued. I like the idea of calling the
pediatrician to voice your concerns....or perhaps talking with
your child's pedi to see if he/she has anything to offer. I
saw a Hallmark series movie in December (can't remember the name)
where a woman "borrowed" a child from her mother and took her for
a complete evaluation because the child's mother refused to help
the child develop to her fullest potential....maybe that's an idea
(albeit sneaky, I think it's better than calling DSS!).
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1267.5 | | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Tue Dec 31 1991 08:51 | 2 |
| Unless a child's being abused *and* you've exhausted all other options,
keep DSS out of it. From what I've seen and heard, DSS is to be avoided.
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1267.6 | I don't know what it will take... | GOZOLI::BERTINO | | Tue Dec 31 1991 11:01 | 41 |
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Thanks, for all your ideas so far.
Funny, Carol, that you should mention "borrowing" the child and
taking it to my own pedi. My sister-in-law, ( the mother of the
premie twins) and I have the same pedi, and have joked about
doing this. I hadn't taken it as anything more than that yet.
How would you break it to them afterwards. "We bumped into my
pedi in the produce aisle of the supermarket."?
My pedi would not let this one go by. Megan lost 13 oz. in 5 days
(from when she left the hospital to her 1 week appointment) and
he very calmly, but seriously attacked the problem and in 3 days
she had put 1.5 lbs back on. He is not an alarmist but he doesn't
fool around either. Heck! I mentioned once that it seemed like
sometimes she forgets to breath and the next thing I knew we had
the monitoring equipment at home for a 24 hours eval. I would like
to believe that all of them are like this: You notice something,
they listen, and act if needed.
Last night I was talking to my husbands Aunt and she told me that
they took the baby to the hospital yesterday and he has the flu.
The thing that shocks me is that he weighed 11 lbs. before and
has since lost 2 pounds and they didn't keep him overnight! 2
out of 11 pounds seems like a substantial % of his body wieght
and of real concern if he has this flu that is going around!
I think that soon I may have to speak with her myself, but not
being an immediate family member, I have avoided that so far.
I also like the idea of giving her the "What to expect in the
first year" Maybe I will try that. No one in the family knows
what to do. I think everyone is running out of ways to politely
and indirectly mention things hoping that she will take the
initiative herself. And we are all feeling like horrible liars
everytime we see him and say, "He looks good."
I don't think that I could ever really call DSS about this, I
know that is the absolute last resort.
Thanks---
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1267.7 | How do you tick off a 6 month old? | EICMFG::BINGER | Warthogs of the world unite | Tue Dec 31 1991 11:28 | 13 |
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Re .0
> He also never seems to cry. He only seems to cry if he gets really
> ticked off or he is really hungry. He screamed so hard on Christmas
>>>>>>>
> when she put his winter coat on him that he was shaking.
My last experience with one this age was in 1976 so the memories are a
little rosy. My question would be .. Who ticks him off, What does a
quiet 6 month old do to get a ticking off.
I cannot remember any of my kid at that age showing distress (crying) at
the sound of a familar voice.
But as I say the memories are a little rosy.
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1267.8 | | KAOFS::S_BROOK | | Tue Dec 31 1991 12:05 | 10 |
| I think that maybe a call to your own pedi to discuss the situation
might not be amiss ... he'll have a much better idea to determine
whether what you are seeing might be quasi-normal, or otherwise, and
may have some suggestions as to how to get through to her or her
pedi etc.
What about public health nurses ? Do they have any in her town to
maybe help her and maybe convince her that the baby needs more help ?
Stuart
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1267.9 | | GOZOLI::BERTINO | | Tue Dec 31 1991 12:28 | 6 |
| Re: .8
That's a good idea! I remember a visiting nurse came over to
see us when Megan was about a month old. She was great!
I'll try and check into that.
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1267.10 | lay off | TLE::RANDALL | liberal feminist redneck pacifist | Tue Dec 31 1991 12:40 | 33 |
| I tend to agree with the person who pointed out that just because
the mother isn't talking to you or the rest of the family about
what's going on doesn't mean that the mother herself is denying
anything or not seeking appropriate medical treatment for the
child.
The baby is under a pediatrician's care and has even seen a
neurologist, so it isn't likely that medical care is inadequate.
While many premature babies do develop normally, others have
delayed development, and sometimes the delay is *more* than the
number of weeks of prematurity. Even if the baby was only a month
early, that still means he's got a developmental age of around 4
months, and it's not that unusual for a baby to not be holding up
his head well at four months. Late, yes. A problem, not
necessarily.
And some children are very placid, very unalert, very slow to
develop. Either Parents magazine or Parenting had a good article
about the slow-developing child last month that might be helpful
in this regard.
If the baby reacts to hunger or protests having a coat put on when
he doesn't like it, that sounds pretty normal.
Frankly, if I had all these people hanging over my shoulder trying
to tell me what I should be doing with my baby and implying that I
was neglectful because the kid wasn't developing fast enough and
questioning my pediatrician's judgement because he wasn't
interventionist enough to suit the relatives, I would be really
ticked off myself.
--bonnie
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1267.11 | Another possibility...??? | AIMHI::SJOHNSON | | Tue Dec 31 1991 15:02 | 17 |
| Geez, my thoughts are a little different than others here...
I would have to expect that if she was in college at the time (of
pregnancy) that she could have had exposure (we'll say) to alcohol or
drugs. I'm not certain I would share my negligence w/ my family -
especially extended family! But, it sounds to me like her doctors are
doing checks on the baby from time to time. There may not be anything
that they can do about his condition!? This is just a guess as to what
her circumstances are.
How early was she? You said 1 month - is that 4, 4.5 or 5 weeks early?
Side note: (everyone being different) My friend had a baby 4.5 weeks
premature (w/ excellent prenatal care) & he is developing as an average
6 month old would.
Sonia
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1267.12 | | GOZOLI::BERTINO | | Thu Jan 02 1992 09:15 | 35 |
|
Bonnie-
No one in the family has been hanging over this girl saying she
is a bad mother! I don't really know what else to say but that.
We're not a bunch of old mother hens, telling her what to do all
the time.
He is currently 1 of 5 children in the family inder the age of 15
months. So of course at gatherings, which occur frequently, the
kids are a large portion of the conversation. "What did you do
for this problem" or "How do you handle that problem" or "What
did your pedi say when you saw him last" etc... We've all learned
a lot from each other.
I guess the question comes down to "How do you impart this kind of
knowledge?" The fact that giving the baby extra fluid while is has
this cold was an utterly new idea to her is surprising to me!
I don't think the baby has always been seen in a clinic where there
are mostly residents and the move around frequently. He may have
never seen the same Dr. twice. I'm not sure though. I do know
though that when he saw the neurologist she didn't ask any questions
and when her mother tried to she got really upset with her!
Thinking about all of this a lot lately, maybe this (the baby) is
just so overwhelming to her that she has retreated. Maybe she is
intimidated by our "appearance" of knowing wha the h*%@ we are doing.
My reaction, and the reaction of the rest of the family has always
been "Tell me more!" maybe she doesn't listen to what is going on
around her so she won't have to show us what she doesn't know.
Just a thought. No more for now. My brain hurts!
Wendy
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1267.13 | | KAOFS::S_BROOK | | Thu Jan 02 1992 10:08 | 35 |
| > No one in the family has been hanging over this girl saying she
> is a bad mother! I don't really know what else to say but that.
> We're not a bunch of old mother hens, telling her what to do all
> the time.
I think you may have put your finger on something here ... It may well
be that she does know that there is some problem and doesn't want to
admit it to others for the very fear that she will be called a bad mother.
Moreover, she may already be feeling that she IS a bad mother and doesn't
want the rest of the family rubbing it in. So, she has retreated.
> I guess the question comes down to "How do you impart this kind of
> knowledge?" The fact that giving the baby extra fluid while is has
> this cold was an utterly new idea to her is surprising to me!
You can't unless she wants to receive it.
> just so overwhelming to her that she has retreated. Maybe she is
> intimidated by our "appearance" of knowing wha the h*%@ we are doing.
> My reaction, and the reaction of the rest of the family has always
> been "Tell me more!" maybe she doesn't listen to what is going on
> around her so she won't have to show us what she doesn't know.
This is possible, but less likely ...
It sounds like she will need to find someone she can trust to talk to ...
someone who will not be judgemental ... someone she trusts to not gossip
with all the family ...
I admire the fact that you want to help, but remember that these are not
really your problems so you shouldn't let yourself get overly bogged down
by worrying about them ... you have your own family to raise and you can't
do that if you are spending a lot of time worrying about others.
Stuart
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1267.15 | I would not recommend this... | AIMHI::SJOHNSON | | Thu Jan 02 1992 12:35 | 15 |
| I also feel that getting her the "What to expect the first year" would
make her feel worse about her son's condition. Every month they list
different stages of development that the baby "should" be doing & if
he/she isn't to contact your doctor immediately as there could be a
medical problem.
I feel that she probably doesn't need to read a book to remind her as
she sees all her neices & nephews obviously developing before her's.
I'm currently reading the book & would find it devastating if every
month I would read that my child was not developing as an average child
of his/her age is.
Just my opinion.
Sonia (again)
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1267.16 | Prematurity book??? | AIMHI::SJOHNSON | | Thu Jan 02 1992 12:38 | 5 |
| Another book recommendation....... one on prematurity might be a better
suggestion. At least that might make her feel better about his
development rather than upset by his lack of.
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1267.17 | give the kid a chance | CSC32::M_EVANS | | Fri Jan 03 1992 16:34 | 15 |
| Being the mother of an "elf", who only weighed 13 pounds at 1 year I
would take exception to people worrying about the size of my child. she
was full term and 6 lbs, 2 oz at birth. I mean we are not raising
prize pigs here we are raising babies. FWIW she has decided food is
great now and is in the small range of normal at the age of 6. If Carrie
hadn't been developing on the normal curve, my Dr. would have gone
non-linear, before she had an elf of her own.
I would just give her her space and let her ask the questions. She can
obviously see her baby is "different" from the others, and doesn't need
any more pressure on how her baby should be doing. Be available, but
don't push yourself or your good advice on her. Also remember every
baby is different and he may just be slow at this point.
Meg
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1267.18 | ease up | TLE::RANDALL | liberal feminist redneck pacifist | Mon Jan 06 1992 10:33 | 39 |
| re: .12
What I was trying to say is that from her perspective, your
interest and concern probably come across as interference and
criticism, no matter how you intend them.
When somebody says something like "there are x other premature
babies in this family and none of them have this kind of problem"
the unspoken conclusion a new mother, especially a single mother,
often hears is, "...so if your baby is having problems, it must be
because you were a bad mother." It doesn't matter if we name 95
premature babies that didn't have any problems, the fact remains
that some of them do, and it's not usually from anything the
mother did or didn't do. And the problems might not even be
related to prematurity or anything else.
I'm not sure what else you want the doctors to be doing. Most
5-month-old babies have not seen neurologists, so obviously the
clinic doctors are aware something is not quite right.
Maybe she could learn some stuff from you and the other relatives
that would make her mothering task a little easier -- but she's
been a mother herself for a few months now and I'll bet she's
stumbled across some stuff that would help you too.
If I were being pressured for medical details about my children in
a situation where for whatever reason I didn't want to talk about
it, I wouldn't have any compunction about telling the other person
I didn't ask rather than letting myself be forced into a
discussion I didn't want to have. Especially my mother. So I
still don't think you can conclude that because the mother hasn't
told any of you what's going on, that means that *she* doesn't
know.
As Meg says in .17, just be there for her. And remember that
mothering styles differ, and just because she's doing something
differently than you do, it doesn't mean it's wrong.
--bonnie
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1267.19 | It's natural to want to help | VAXUUM::FONTAINE | | Mon Jan 06 1992 15:24 | 31 |
|
I didn't think, from reading Wendy's notes (and I also happen to know her!) that
she considers the cousin's ways of doing things wrong, just because they aren't
Wendy's way of doing things. It was definitely impressed upon me that she's
looking for ways to "impart knowledge". The girl could be less informed in
matters of child health and care since it was an unexpected pregnancy, and
it was discovered quite late in the game (7 mos?) she probably didn't get to
spend alot of time preparing for motherhood. Bonnie mentioned that "she
probably stumbled across some stuff that would help you too". That may or may
not be true, give her the opportunity to take part also. From the sound of
it, she has probably had a tougher row to hoe than the other moms in the family
and maybe to gently ease her into family talks, over time, could be
beneficial to both her and her child.
Continue to openly ask the other moms, along with the cousin, lots of questions
about, what do I do for this, what did you do for that, as you have done in
the past, so she'll realize that we "all" need help with child rearing at
one time or another. We're human! (and all parents are NEW parents at some
point, right?). Somehow she has to see for herself that you aren't going to
start to be judgemental.
Quite a delicate situation. I don't imagine it's an easy thing to sit by and
not be able to openly help her as you may want to do. I think "Gently" is
the key here.
Good luck Wendy,
Nancy
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1267.20 | think about it from the mother's point of view | TLE::RANDALL | liberal feminist redneck pacifist | Mon Jan 06 1992 16:42 | 26 |
| I'm sure neither the base noter nor her family intends to come
across that way. I'm sure they all have the best of intentions.
But in a situation like this it's very nearly impossible not to
come off as criticizing and judging.
It's inherently rather judgemental to assume that one has a whole
store of knowledge that someone else is in need of. Why would a
person want to offer advice if they didn't think the other person
was doing it wrong in the first place?
As a former 20-year-old single mother myself, I winced when I read
the base note, and I've had a hard time staying civil over
references to "the girl" and suggestions to call in the DSS
because she doesn't take her baby to the doctor often enough, or
whatever it was that she did wrong.
Tough row to hoe is right -- an unexpected pregnancy, presumably
the breakup of the relationship with the father, a premature baby
who had to be hospitalized with the flu and who may have
developmental problems? I'd be in the lunatic asylum.
Maybe it would be more productive to think in terms of what you
can do to lighten her load a bit instead of getting her to take
advice for her own good.
--bonnie
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1267.21 | | PCOJCT::REIS | God is my refuge | Tue Jan 07 1992 14:28 | 11 |
|
FWIW; My sister-in-laws second daughter was nine months old before she
rolled over on her own!!! My husband and I both thought that she might
be retarded as she would just lay there staring at the ceiling and
rarely cried. My husband did mention it to his sister and she was
highly insulted but did have the baby checked out. I'm glad to say that
she is perfectly ok and today is a very intelligent 10 year old. As
other noters have advised just be there in case something does turn out
to be wrong. Chances are its nothing.
Trudy
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1267.22 | Premature twins | BONNET::LORD | | Wed Jan 08 1992 10:51 | 7 |
| I have had premature twins (girl and boy) who are 2 1/2 years now.
They were born at 7 months, each one weighing 1.2kg, which is very
small. My son Matthew only sat-up alone at 12 months and walked at 16
months. He was in fact late on everything. But today, he really
is a normal kid. It's a difficult situation indeed.
Nathalie
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1267.23 | FOCUS ON THE BABY | MR4DEC::SPERA | | Thu Jan 09 1992 12:05 | 26 |
| Just another opinion but...
Think about helping the baby. It sounds as if you may be around the
baby frequently. Play games, do exercises, stretch those little legs.
Hold that baby. Feed that baby, cuddling him in your arms.
None of it can hurt the baby. If it is failure to thrive or if there is
a medical or neurological problem you will be helping.
I just adopted a little girl who was 5 months old when I first saw
her. She weighed under 9 pounds and except for the ability to track
with her eyes and to smile, she seemed to me to resemble a small
newborn. Even her posture could only be described as fetal.
I've done a lot of cuddling and talking and singing and stretching of
tight muscles in her legs. She's made incredible progress in weight and
in development. We see a neurologist next week...she's still behind and
we're not sure why. She's now almost 8 months old, not sitting up,
some poor muscle tone, etc...
My point is that the baby's mother may be overwhlmed, may be dumb, or
may be in denial. If you focus on the baby, you may find you get a
better sense of what is going on with him and in the meantime will be
helping both baby and mom.
Good luck. It's so hard to know how best to help.
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1267.24 | My guess ... environment is the culprit! | CALS::JENSEN | | Thu Jan 09 1992 12:43 | 43 |
|
I, too, was concerned about the distinct differences between my daughter's
development (physical, emotional, intellectual, etc.) and my nephew's
(he's 1 month younger). My sister-in-law had a very difficult pregnancy
compounded by a more difficult delivery and the fact that "she" (not the baby)
spent the following 4-6 weeks hospitalized/recuperating while my brother-in-law
juggled a newborn, a fulltime job and a bedridden wife. My brother-in-law did a
fantastic job!! ... but I think it was the concessions they HAD to make to
"survive" all this that made their son so docile, easy-going and lax-a-daxacle.
This kid had NO ambition, NO motivation ... he was happy to be tanked up and
left to sleep! He got quite big, I might add (which only stymied his physical
development (kicking, pulling up, crawling, walking, etc.) yet more. He had a
big head and he, too, used to have trouble to holding it up and controlling his
neck/arm muscles.
But once he FINALLY got up and started walking, he did slim down some and
become more "motivated". He's still not talking and as physically stable
and motivated as Juli, but he has tightened up the development_gap between
"him and Juli" these past 6 months -- although there is still a difference
between them, I no longer think it's anything to be worried about.
Also, a lot has to do with the parents, care providers and other children
stimulating and motivating the child! Kids learn from "others" and if they
spend most of their day in an infant carrier or swing - merrily sleeping -
rather than stimulated with activity (voices, music, rattles ... and yes!,
typical daily CHAOS!), they will probably learn and develop at a much slower
pace.
Since the child has been seen by a Pedi and Neurologist ... My guess would
be perhaps it's his environment that might be the culprit here.
Does his mother take him outdoors in the stroller, socialize with other
children, play with him, talk/sing to him, introduce music (other than hard
rock), teach him to hold a rattle, roll on the floor, hold her finger, follow
her motions (God, when I think how many times Juli - at the age of 3 months -
watched (and listened to my chatter!) while I prepared just about every dinner!
And how many times I sat on the hard kitchen floor teaching her how to walk
around a kitchen chair ... how many times I encouraged her to reach for my
fingers and pull herself forward ... Sigh ... where have those days gone?
Just my two cents!
Dottie
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1267.25 | Lindsay's story | VORTEX::AAARGH::LOWELL | Grim Grinning Ghosts... | Fri Jan 10 1992 15:06 | 60 |
| I hope this reply doesn't offend anyone. It's just a few thoughts
I've had about this situation and isn't directed toward any specific
reply or person.
Why is it that everybody seems to get concerned when a child develops
slower than average yet nobody seems to bat an eyelash when a child
develops faster than average? How many parents of children who
were walking at 9 or 10 months have been bombarded with questions
from "well meaning" friends, relatives and coworkers? "Gee Ruth,
Nicole is walking awfully early. Have you talked to her doctor
about it? Are you sure she's not hyperactive?" "Nicole, are you
going to be a problem when you start going to school?" I can't
speak for everyone but I never got anything but glowing comments
about Nicole's progress.
On the other hand, my sister got lots of "well meaning" advice
and comments about her daughter. Lindsay was similar to the baby
in .0. She was a surprise pregnancy - mom was taking birth control
pills - and my sister was not under a physicians care during the
early part of her pregnancy. Lindsay was born at 35 weeks and
weighed a little over 5 pounds. She weighed 4 pounds, 12 ounces
when she came home from the hospital. I can't remember what she
weighed when she was 5 months old. Recently my sister was comparing
Lindsay's development to my son Andrew's development. I believe
she said Lindsay wasn't even holding her head up at 6 months. I
can't remember too many details about her development but I remember
Lindsay being a very quiet baby who mainly sat in her infant seat
and slept a lot. At 3 or 4 months, she was still very easily
startled (her arms would shoot straight out when you picked her up)
and she didn't cry very loud (or very often). I remember my sister
commenting when Lindsay finally let out with a real strong cry.
Lindsay did eventually catch up to her cousins at about 18 months.
She is now 4 1/2 and is fine. However, my sister still seems to
harbor guilt about the whole situation. I don't know how to
explain it but it seems like she feels as though she was a bad
mother or something. I think it was really tough for my sister
because Lindsay's cousins were developing faster than Lindsay was.
On top of that, my sister had been taking a medication known to
cause birth defects before she knew she was pregnant. So I think
(actually, I'm certain) it made her feel inadequate. And, the
"innocent" comments like, "Is Lindsay walking yet?" didn't help.
My sister's feelings of guilt and inadequacy got worse when
Lindsay turned 1 because at that time they found out she couldn't
tolerate milk products. They switched her from milk based formula
to soy based and immediately her physical development blossomed. My
sister seems to feel stupid for not knowing Lindsay couldn't tolerate
milk products, but her intolerance only manifested itself when she
put Lindsay on whole milk.
Anyway, I wanted to write about Lindsay because I think the mother
of the baby in .0 seems to be in a situation similar to my sister's
(although Lindsay never saw a neurologist). Although nobody seems
to be outright calling her a bad or inadequate mother, if she's
extremely sensitive or has low self-esteem, she may be interpreting
every remark as a negative comment about her. For example, in
my sister's case, if my mother said something like, "Look at Nicole
chasing the dog", my sister internalized it as, "Lindsay wasn't
walking when she was Nicole's age so she's saying I'm a bad mother."
Ruth
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1267.26 | thank you | TIPTOE::STOLICNY | | Fri Jan 10 1992 15:48 | 8 |
| RE: .25
Ruth,
Thank you for adding Lindsay's story. I think it really helps to
put things in perspective.
Carol, who interprets things alot like Lindsay's mom...
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1267.27 | | VORTEX::AAARGH::LOWELL | Grim Grinning Ghosts... | Fri Jan 10 1992 16:10 | 45 |
| Now that I've related Lindsay's story, I figured I'd enter my
thoughts about the baby in .0.
When I read Wendy's notes, I wasn't too concerned about the
baby's development. He is under a physicians and a neurologists
care. Although it may seem like they aren't doing much, they may be
doing all they can at this time. It almost seems like they may feel
everything is ok but did a few tests just in case (sort of a CYA
measure). The baby is not being neglected - they've obviously
worked on the feeding problem, he's seen a neurologist, he's been
taken to the hospital when he was ill, etc.. I was surprised that
the mother didn't know to give the baby more fluids when he was ill
and even more surprised that she seems to be unwilling to ask the
neurologist for more information (or at least is unwilling to have
her mother do the asking). Is the mother intimidated by medical
personnel? I remember being very reluctant to ask questions because
I was afraid of looking stupid. If the mother is feeling inadequate,
she may be afraid to ask about the baby.
Are the mother and baby living with the grandmother? It seems like
the grandmother is quite involved with the baby and may inadvertently
be acting like a "mother hen." If she has even once done the old
"Have you tried ____?" routine, that's enough to put her in that
category. If she was around when the mother and pediatrician were
dealing with the spitting up problem, I almost guarantee she did it.
So what's wrong with "Have you tried ___?" Probably nothing but if
the baby's mother is feeling inadequate, she more than likely took it
as "You're a bad mother." Take a look at the troublesome grandparents
note (sorry, don't know the number) if you don't understand what I'm
saying.
The best I can suggest is to talk with the mother when the rest of
the family isn't around and just let her know you're there if she
needs a friend. It seems like she could benefit from some sort of
support group, especially a group of young mothers such as herself,
but I would never tell her so myself. If the subject comes up, it
might be nice to offer to loan her any books you might have and to
suggest looking for a young mothers or new mothers group. If it
were me, I'd be as supportive as possible and would make sure to
give as much attention to her baby as I did to the active ones. If
you let her know you love her baby as much as the others, she'll know
you're sincere about wanting to help her.
Good luck,
Ruth
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1267.28 | | NEURON::REEVES | | Sun Jan 12 1992 06:09 | 16 |
| As the mother of a developmentally delayed child, I can relate to
what the mother in .0 is probably going through.
We make MANY visits to the doctor and in the beginning (first 5
months or so) I was not only intimidated by the doctors but very naive.
I thought that they would tell me everything I was supposed to know.
Well they don't and I have learned thru embarrassment and from the help
of some great friends how to handle the doctors.
Shayne was my first child, a BIG surprise and then with all his
problems I went through a lot of different stages. Shock, guilt, anger
confusion and many other things.
Be patient with the mother, let her try to get a handle on the fact
that she is a mother and get used to that fact. She is dealing with
an awful lot right now.
MHO,
Malinda
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1267.29 | Put it back on yourself.... | BCSE::WEIER | Patty, DTN 381-0877 | Fri Jan 17 1992 10:14 | 21 |
| According to my Drs, any baby born premature takes ~2 years to catch up
developmentally with other children their age. Both of mine were
premature, and I'd say it took closer to three years before they were
equal with their peers.
As for helping the mom .... when I wanted to give advice to someone
about their children, the most effective way I found was to relate to
them a story about ME or a friend of mine, stating a similar problem,
and the things we tried, while NEVER mentioning their child. For
example, if I wanted to suggest to a friend to try cereal before bed to
help the baby sleep, I'd say something like;
I remember when Chris was little, he'd wake up all night long, and
really drive us crazy. Finally we started giving him cereal before
bed, and that seemed to help .... I thought he'd NEVER sleep through!
This let's her know that you understand some of the feelings, and also
gives her an idea w/out it necessarily sounding like you're telling her
what to do.
Good Luck!
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