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918.1 | RH factor problem | NOVA::WASSERMAN | Deb Wasserman, DTN 264-1863 | Wed May 22 1991 14:35 | 9 |
| I think they're referring to the RH factor differences between yours
and your husband's blood. Since you are RH-negative and your husband
is positive, there is a chance that the baby is RH-positive also. This
could create some problems because your body might make antibodies
against the baby's blood. (I'm sure the biologists among us can be
more specific).
Anyway, I don't know exactly what an RH-gram is, but that's undoubtably
what they mean.
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918.2 | Sketchy description | ESCROW::ANDERSON | There's no such place as far away | Wed May 22 1991 14:38 | 22 |
| I forget the proper name of the drug, but I had to have it. I'm A- and
my husband is O+. There is "something" (I forget what) in people who
have positive blood. The "something" is totally absent in those with
negative blood. If your baby has positive blood, and when you deliver
him/her some of it's blood get's into your blood stream, you will
produce anti-bodies against the positive blood. It wouldn't harm the
baby you are carrying now, but could cause severe problems with other
babies if they have positive blood.
You will get a shot of the drug at about 28 weeks. What they did with
me was I went the day before my scheduled 28 week checkup, and got
blood drawn. This tells them how strong to make the shot. I then
recieved the shot the next day. Fairly painless.
Then when your baby is born, they will test his/her blood type. If the
baby has positive blood, you will get a second shot before you leave
the hospital.
Hope this helps....
marianne
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918.3 | RhoGAM | USCTR1::JTRAVERS | | Wed May 22 1991 17:40 | 12 |
| I, too, have had RhoGAM "Rho(D)Immune Globulin (Human)". I am A- and
John is O+. First time after a miscarriage, and then during my
pregnancy with my daughter, and once again after her birth.
.2 is correct in stating that if the baby you are carrying has a
different factor than yours, your body will build up antibodies...
this means if you get pregnant again and the fetus is again a different
factor your body will begin fighting it. The RhoGAM is administered
to ensure that this does not happen...
Good luck!
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918.4 | Turns out hes neg too! | THOTH::CUNNINGHAM | | Thu May 23 1991 08:58 | 18 |
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Well....it looks like I jumped the gun once again. I went home last
night and talked to hubby, and he says he is O- after all (I'm O-),
so I guess we won't need the Rogam after all (I SWEAR he told me he was
O+ !!! Maybe its these preggo hormones messing with my mind:-). We are
going to have him tested again, just to be sure, if he can't find his
Red Cross card)
But from what I read last night, and in talking to my aunt (who is a
delivery nurse), .3 is correct in everything she described. It wouldn't
effect THIS baby, but could effect future children.
Now...whats next?? ;-)
Thanks again,
Chris
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918.5 | OB may want to test, anyway | IAMOK::MACDOWELL | | Thu May 23 1991 09:53 | 8 |
| Chris,
Check with your OB before you have your husband tested. Mine
insists on Rhogam for all Rh- mothers, unless they themselves have
tested the father to be sure he's Rh-, too. So, if he's tested
somewhere else, he may have to be tested again.
Susan
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918.6 | The "something" is the Rh factor | HYSTER::DELISLE | | Thu May 23 1991 10:20 | 19 |
| If you are O- that means you do not have the Rh factor in your blood.
If your husband is O- he doesn't either and chances are your baby will
be a - also because blood type is inherited.
But if you are negative and your husband is positive the baby may be
positive. If the baby is positive and the blood supplies (yours and
the baby's) intermingle, your body may build antibodies against the
positive factor from the baby's blood, recognizing it as a foreign
agent to you. This will not affect your current pregnancy, but in the
future if you conceive another baby with a positive blood type your
body may recognize it as foreign and reject the fetus.
I'm A+, my husband is O- I believe, so we don't need to worry. It's
only with negative mothers and positive fathers. My mother is A-, my
father O+, she carried eight children to term without a problem so it
doens't necessarily become a problem. This was way before they
developed a shot to counteract the Rh factor.
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918.7 | | MOIRA::FAIMAN | light upon the figured leaf | Thu May 23 1991 10:35 | 8 |
| > If you are O- that means you do not have the Rh factor in your blood.
> If your husband is O- he doesn't either and chances are your baby will
> be a - also because blood type is inherited.
If her husband really is Rh-, then (barring a mutation or infidelity) it is
a certainty that the baby will be Rh- and there will not be a problem. Rh+
is dominant, so two Rh- parents cannot have an Rh+ child. (Whereas two Rh+
parents can have an Rh- child, but it doesn't matter if they do.)
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918.8 | All Rh- have the injection here | IOSG::SERJEANT | | Thu May 23 1991 11:50 | 10 |
| In the UK they give you the injection (called anti-D) if you are
Rh -, whatever blood group your partner is. They didn't even ask me
(I'm O-) what group my husband was. When I asked them, they
pointed out they had no way of knowing for sure who the father was, so
it was best to be on the safe side. I didn't feel insulted but I
suppose some people might!
The baby is Rh- so I didn't have an injection after the delivery.
Heather
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918.9 | can be a threat on first pregnancy | CSSE32::RANDALL | Bonnie Randall Schutzman, CSSE/DSS | Thu May 23 1991 12:18 | 19 |
| It could be a threat on a first pregnancy if the mother previously
had:
* an abortion
* a misscarriage
* a transfusion of RH+ blood (which probably would have caused
medical problems at the time)
Any of those can trigger the body to start producing the
antibodies against the Rh+ "invasion," which the Rh- person's body
perceives as an infection.
According to a friend who's a nurse, one of the reasons many
doctors automatically administer the Rhogam is that many women who
as teenagers had an abortion (or sometimes even a previous
pregnancy) simply will not admit it to their doctors for fear
their present husbands will find out.
--bonnie
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918.10 | | R2ME2::ROLLMAN | | Thu May 23 1991 13:43 | 9 |
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It's also neccesary to have RhoGam after amniocentesis, for Rh+ women with Rh-
partners.
Also, be aware that RhoGam is a blood-product. Therefore, there is a small
risk of HIV contamination. You may wish to ask your doctor about that before
accepting an "automatic" injection.
she asked what the father's blood type was and would I find out.
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918.11 | Not cheap... | STAR::LEWIS | | Thu May 23 1991 14:13 | 9 |
| I would also question an automatic shot. I'm A-, my husband is O+ (he
was tested for blood type when we married, because he didn't know).
Anyway, my doctors insisted on a shot at 28 weeks, as well as after
the baby was born. (I think it's because some fetuses develop problems
because of the incompatibility around the 30th week; so the shot was
a preventative). Anyway, the point is, they have to run a lab test to
determine something about the shot (strength?). The cost of that plus
the shot itself was either $200 or $300. For me, that was just covered
as lab work, not part of the pregnancy "package".
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918.12 | | CIM::DIAZ | | Thu May 23 1991 14:41 | 20 |
| This is my friend's situation, she is A- , her hsuband is +.
Only, unfortunately for her, as previously mentioned, she most likely
had an early miscarriage and didn't realize it and developed the
antibodies to her next (successful) babies blood. So basically went
she went in to get her shot of Rhogam, it was too late her blood had
the antibodies. From then on it was a scary situation and she was in
constant risk of aborting the baby. From 5 months of pregnancy on
they did many amnios to measure the antibody (titre) level and also
check the baby's lung development. After the baby was born, he received
a blood transfusion. Now for any new pregnancy my friend undertakes,
first of all it's a scary thought for her now, she was advised to
wait at least two years to allow the antibody level to drop in her
blood. And she will definitely have to go through the same procedure
again and live in constant fear of losing the baby.
I have a question about the timing of the Rhogam shot, why do they
wait until week 28, if they give it right away would it have made
a difference for my friend? Probably not since they suspect a previous
unknown pregnancy.
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918.13 | | R2ME2::ROLLMAN | | Thu May 23 1991 15:19 | 29 |
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They do shots at 28 weeks and a couple days after delivery. The one at 28
weeks is to prevent antibody formation prior to delivery (so it will prevent
antibodies during delivery). I think it's in case of premature labor, since
the protection lasts about 6 weeks (I think. It was definitely not going to
protect me if I went full term - 40 weeks).
The one after delivery is to prevent antibody formation that could result from
the actual delivery.
The blood test they do before the shot is to see if you are already sensitive
to Rh+ blood.
They don't wait until the 28th week if there is a reason not to. If a Rh-
woman has amniocentesis early in pregnancy, then she would receive a RhoGam
within 24 hours. (I did).
In the case of your friend, the antibodies were already there; it probably
happened when she had the miscarriage. RhoGam prevents your immune system
from becoming sensitive to Rh+ blood; it can't desensitize an already
sensitive immune system.
And, yes, unfortunately, she may have to go thru the same thing the next time
she is pregnant. I think they can determine a baby's blood type (from
amniocentesis, maybe?). If the baby is also Rh- (inherited from her), then
she would not be sensitive to him/her and it would be ok. If s/he inherits the
father's Rh factor (so it's Rh+), then they would have to monitor the baby
again. So, there is a 50-50 chance that it will be ok the next time.
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918.14 | Dr called/get hubby's blood typed next month | THOTH::CUNNINGHAM | | Thu May 23 1991 15:39 | 16 |
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Another update...
My doctor called me this afternoon, to explain...(and all of you are
right on the money!!!)....and since I told him that my husband says
he's negative after all, we shouldn't have a problem. We're going to
have his blood "typed" next month at my next visit, just to make sure.
At first I thought this would be a stupid question to ask, but from the
information given by everyone, I guess it wasn't so stupid after all.
I knew the PARENTING community would give me answers!!
I wonder what I would do throughout this pregnancy without this file!
Chris :-)
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918.15 | Sometimes they have to test... | STAR::LEWIS | | Fri May 24 1991 10:34 | 7 |
| Why we're on the topic:
I was in a minor car accident around week 24 of my pregnancy. After
checking for placental separation with the office mini-ultrasound
they sent me to the lab for the blood test to determine if my blood
had become sensitive due to miniscule tears in the placenta. Turned
out everything was fine. Just another wrinkle in the Rh- saga....
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