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877.1 | sorry this is happening... | CNTROL::STOLICNY | | Thu May 02 1991 14:04 | 10 |
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The only thing I can think that *might* help is to mimic the bedtime
routine that the child has been accustomed to with her mother; if
there was such a routine. But, I too, believe that it will take
time for your granddaughter to adjust to the loss of her mother.
My heart goes out to this child - and to all of you - at this trying
time,
Carol
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877.2 | extra love | CSSE32::RANDALL | Bonnie Randall Schutzman, CSSE/DSS | Thu May 02 1991 14:10 | 11 |
| Kat always seemed to know that her father was missing, even though
he left before she was born and she never knew him, and she had
plenty of love around. She has always been a restless sleeper,
and prone to nightmares from a pretty early age.
There's nothing much you can do except offer her a lot of love and
comfort, especially when she wakes up at night. A little extra
dose of personal attention from her father right before bedtime
would probably also help.
--bonnie
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877.3 | childs point of view | SCAACT::DICKEY | | Thu May 02 1991 15:20 | 26 |
| My husbands mother left him and his two brothers when he was only 1
year old. She left for the same reasons that you mentioned in your
basenote. He was passed around from relative to relative and I don't
think he ever has gotten over the fact that his own mother abandoned
him. I think it is something that he will always have to deal with.
By being passed around so much he said he grew up thinking that noone
wanted him and he didn't feel loved by anyone. He said him and his
brothers always thought they must have been bad bys in some way that
would make their mom leave. They also felt that if their own mom doesn't
want them who else would.
My suggestion is that if your daughter-in-law doesn't come back and work
things out between her and her daughter, please let your granddaughter
know as she is growing up, that it wasn't her fault and that she is loved
by other people.
I have even suggested to my husband that he go see his Mom and ask her
why she left. I thought that might ease his mind and make him feel
better. But he wants nothing to do with her. His oldest brother does
correspond with her and when she sent us a wedding card, my husband
tore it up and threw it in the trash. She had signed it (get this )
your biological Mother, Barbara. Blew my mind!
Maybe that will give alittle insight from the childs point of view.
Kathy
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877.4 | See an attorney | POWDML::SATOW | | Thu May 02 1991 16:09 | 8 |
| In addition to the advice already given you, I'd suggest
seeing an attorney who specializes in family law issues. In
the event that the mother changes her mind there may be some
issues around custody, support payments, and many other
issues. Do not assume that the mother will not have a change
of heart. At least know what your rights are.
Clay
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877.5 | Make it Legal | HYSTER::DELISLE | | Thu May 02 1991 17:23 | 16 |
| If you are truly concerned for the child's long term welfare, I second
.4's advice: consult an attorney. Make your son sole custodian, or
legally adopt the child yourselves if that is what you want.
My ex sister-in-law was ready to "abandon" her three year old daughter
some years ago, to the foster care system. My family was absolutely
stunned by the notion that anone could do such a thing. So my older
sister agreed to take her on the condition that she and her husband
could legally adopt her. They didn't want my sister-in-law returning
years later trying to get her back. She agreed to do it, and my niece
is now 17. She knows her biological mother, they have visited and
spent time together, but she knows where she "belongs", who her family
is, her brother and sister (really cousins).
That baby needs a lot of love. Please give it to her. 8-)
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877.6 | please make it legal | ASABET::TRUMPOLT | Liz Trumpolt - ML05-4 - 223-7153 | Fri May 03 1991 09:45 | 19 |
| I have to agree with .4's advice to have your son talk to an attorney.
This happend with my brother and his wife and the kids got stuck in a
foster home until my brother could prove to DSS that he was fit to care
for his kids (1 boy and 1 girl). He proved his case in court and got
his kids they know live in the low income houseing here in Maynard. He
goes back to court in this month to see if they will grant him full
custody of the kids. His DSS Social worker thinks that he will have no
problem in getting full custody of them with her recomendation and the
profe that the kids are well fed, kept clean and attend school.
So if you don't want your granddaughter to end up in a foster home
please have your son talk to an attorney and become sole custodian or
have you and your husband made legal gaurdians of her.
hope everything works out for you all.
Liz
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877.7 | possibly unrelated, also | CSSE32::RANDALL | Bonnie Randall Schutzman, CSSE/DSS | Fri May 03 1991 09:51 | 8 |
| Another point that occurred to me as I was driving home last
night: while it's tempting to blame every problem on the baby's
emotional stress, it's also true that a lot of 6-month-olds go
through bouts of sleep problems. You might also check in the
"sleep problems" note to see if anything in there might help your
granddaughter.
--bonnie
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877.8 | Not an uncommon scenaria | WORDY::STEINHART | Pixillated | Fri May 03 1991 10:29 | 27 |
| I'm sorry to hear this sad story. This is exactly what happened to my
brother, John. John's wife had two daughters by a previous husband.
John raised them. The older daughter, Kim, had a daughter at 17. She
married the baby's father after the baby's birth, but they split up and
Kim left town without her baby.
The baby and her father were living with John and his wife. The baby's
father (joined by John and wife) had a hard custody battle when Kim
changed her mind. The father won, and the baby was kept in a stable
environment. Now Kim has returned to town and may want custody again.
The whole $%^* issue may go back to court, at great expense. Meanwhile
the baby and father have moved in with HIS new girlfriend. That ppor
kid is being shifted hither and yon. At least her daycare is stable.
Miraculously, she is developing very nicely in every way.
John and his wife frequently read her the Dr. Seuss book, Horton
Hatches an Egg, about a mother who leaves her egg to another. I don't
know if this helped or hurt. It seemed kind of negative about the
baby's mother, but on the other hand it helped explain. You
might take a look at this book.
I wish the basenoter and family good luck. It is a tough row to hoe.
But it doesn't mean the child will grow up hopelessly scarred. If she
knows she is wanted by SOMEBODY, and some stability is maintained, she
may turn out fine, as my step-grand-niece seems to be doing.
Laura
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877.9 | | MAMTS3::MWANNEMACHER | Just A Country Boy | Fri May 03 1991 10:44 | 9 |
| Don't walk, RUN to an attorney and get help. A friend of mine had his
wife leave when their daughter was 2. She didn't pay a penny to her
daughters support and had visitation. He had full custody. Ten years
later she decides she wants her daughter back and kidnaps her. Messy
court battle. It's a shame, a woman can be a piece a trash and is
assumed a better parent than a man who could be a saint. He has to
"prove" himself.
Mike
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877.10 | Some of the dearest memories Jim has is of his GRANDparents ... | CALS::JENSEN | | Fri May 03 1991 10:47 | 37 |
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Jim and his younger brother spent several years with their maternal grandparents
in Utah (around grades 1-4, and other years, too ... I think ...),
before rejoining his mother and step-Dad on the East Coast. His Dad was
an Air-Force pilot and did keep in touch and visited them often (as well
as some visits from his mother and step-Dad). I'm sure this was not easy on
the kids!, but some good did come out of it ... Jim always had a special part
of his heart for Grandma and Grandpa ... and I did, too (they were real gems!).
It bonded Jim and Kevin very tightly ... they would do anything for each other
... they will also contact each other FIRST when they need a friend or a
shoulder to cry on. My sister and I are very close, but I've never seen
a sibling as closely bonded as Jim and Kevin are!
The divorce was hard on the boys ... but their step-Dad is a Dad to them in
every way (but no one will ever understand why those years of separation
occurred ... but with time and love you try to put it behind you). Yes, it
did cause problems for the boys, but I believe they are fairly adjusted and
balanced today despite it all.
Jim/I/Juli love ALL our parents. What happened is in the past. We may not
understand it, we may NEVER understand it, but we don't let it consume us
with hate and anger. We love them all EQUALLY and stay in contact with ALL
of them.
I never knew pain until the day we buried Grandpa ... only a year and a half
later to bury Grandma (a senseless, unnecessary murder).
If we have any rights to hate and be angry, it's towards the person who
murdered Grandma ... and I can honestly say, Jim/I still do NOT HATE!
So please use love, compassion and understanding to get you through these
difficult times ... and always remember, someday your granddaughter is going
to love you more than ANYONE in the whole wide world! It will be YOU she
turns to during her lifetime. Just fill her pain (and your son's) with
love ... that's all you can do right now.
Dottie
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877.11 | Thanks | NEST::HUSTON | | Mon May 06 1991 12:46 | 9 |
| Thanks for all your responses. Have definitely taken the legal
route already. We are flooding this little beautiful girl with
all the love and understanding that we have inside of us all. I
have 5 children that all seem to be coming to this little girls
rescue (so to speak) showing alot of attention, etc.
Thanks again.
GJH
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877.12 | | BCSE::WEIER | Patty, DTN 381-0877 | Mon May 06 1991 13:19 | 9 |
| Another point as well, is that her mother is financially responsible
for child-support payments. The same as if HE had run out, it's still
her kid, she still has to pay to help raise her.
Good luck with everything. Fortunately she is young enough that she
probably won't have to deal with the "I must've done something wrong"
when she gets older. It stuns me that someone could leave their
children - and that it seems so common!!
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