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Conference moira::parenting_v3

Title:Parenting
Notice:READ 1.27 BEFORE WRITING
Moderator:CSC32::DUBOIS
Created:Wed May 30 1990
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1364
Total number of notes:23848

826.0. "ATTENTION: Nursing Mothers" by JARETH::DIBONA () Wed Apr 10 1991 14:47

I am a (relatively) new mother who is also a nursing mother.  I work full-time
at ZKO (Nashua, NH) and I've recently had the good fortune of being allowed to 
use a room in this facility for expressing during working hours.  It is the
currently vacant former ZK3 Health Services office that includes a rest room
and an examining room complete with cot, table and comfortable chair.  It is
completely private, generally clean, and allows for a quiet (very important!)
space to express.  I appear to be the only "mom" using the room at this time.

I'd like to share this information with other nursing/working mothers for 
several reasons:

First, I fear that, if there is not enough interest generated to support the
contention that this need truly EXISTS and that the facility will be used on a
regular basis (by more than just one person), this facility may go away.  It 
would be very easy to dismiss the needs of just one person, but not many.  That
is why I am entering this plea.

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING THIS FACILITY CONTINUE, YOU MUST SPEAK UP AND 
MAKE YOUR NEEDS KNOWN.  BREASTFEEDING IS A PARENTING ISSUE!!!  IT IS NOT ABOUT
THE NEEDS OF ONE INDIVIDUAL!

After reading note 168 in this conference, it is sadly apparent
that many of us have given up breastfeeding due to the lack of private, clean
facilities at work for expressing during working hours.  Several noters 
indicated that they had tried using the handicapped rest rooms (which was my
only alternative until recently) but that for a combination of reasons, among
them hygiene, comfort, and an astounding number of insensitive comments 
(including references to women shaving or using a vibrator in the rest room)
they decided it wasn't worth it.  I would also like to add that I was incensed
by the number of non-handicapped employees who use these handicapped rest rooms!

Unfortunately, the manager of Health Services has decided that this is a 
sensitive issue and as such, should not be publicly announced to the ZKO commu-
nity.  This also saddens me because I believe it is your right to know that this
facility exists for YOUR use, just as the Wellness Center and EAP have been made
available.  (But this is an issue for yet another note...)

[It was also confirmed for me today that the space that I have been
using for expressing will be designated for other use by the Employee 
Activities Committee, although another room that is currently used on a 
part-time basis for Testing in the Wellness Center will be converted for (our)
use.]

Plese contact Louise Wilkins at Health Services (WECARE::WILKINS) to express
your support (excuse the pun) and to indicate whether you intend to use this
facility.  DON'T LET THIS MAJOR MILESTONE BE TAKEN AWAY.

Ann
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826.1BREASTFEEDING IS A PARENTING ISSUE!!!JARETH::DIBONAWed Apr 10 1991 14:532
Breast feeding is PARENTING issue!!!  We need support from you nursing FATHERS
as well!!!
826.2LKG SupportNETCUR::VASSILThu Apr 11 1991 10:3113
    The LKG Health Services has been VERY supportive in my effort to
    contiue to nurse my son.  I have use of an examining room (shared by
    one other nursing mom).  We have coordinated our times so they don't
    conflict.  
    
    I agree, if any other moms needed to use this room or if someone was
    sick, we could have a problem.  Although, there is a storage room we
    could use.  The sick have top priority for the better room.  
    
    I have been back for about 5 weeks now and I'm surprised at how well
    nursing/working has worked out.    
    
     Linda
826.3Support from a dadHARDY::HYNESFri Apr 12 1991 13:5510
    re 826.1  Hear hear!
    
    I just dropped Louise WECARE:: Wilkins a note of appreciation.
    Hope it helps -
    
    Bob "Fatha" Hynes
    
    
    
                                      
826.4Another vote for nursing roomsWORDY::STEINHARTPixillatedFri Apr 12 1991 14:3138
    When I went back to work after giving birth, I cut back on the nursing
    to only evening hours because there was no place at work for me to
    express privately. As a result, my body did not produce enough milk and
    I ended up moving my daughter onto formula entirely, earlier than I
    wanted to, and earlier than the pediatrician recommended.  (Some women
    can nurse part-time but my body didn't accept it.)

    I also went through a protracted hormonal adjustment which
    was very uncomfortable until I stoppped nursing entirely.  This
    affected my job performance by causing a lot of  digestive upset.  Had
    I weaned at the time of my choice, I would have done it much more
    quickly and avoided the half-way state of nursing part-time.   

    I hope that DEC will make rooms available.  The benefits to the
    company are as follows:  

    * Babies who nurse are much healthier.  They obtain their mothers'
    antibodies.  For example, my child had only two minor colds this winter
    and she was an autumn baby.  Since the babies are heathier, the mothers
    are healthier and don't need sick time for themselves nor their babies. 
    Thus the mothers are more productive on the job.  

    * The bonding is stronger between mother and child.  When I weaned, my
    child was just beginning to look up at me and smile while nursing.  It
    broke my heart to have to stop at that time.  While it took a lot of
    time and energy, I still would have liked to continue a bit longer.

    * Nursing mothers can plan when THEY want to stop, and thus avoid
    unanticipated hormonal problems like those I experienced.
	
    I would like to see private rooms with comfortable chairs, a cabinet to
    store breast pumps, and a small refrigerator in every DEC facility.  If
    we can make  smoking rooms everywhere, surely we can provide rooms for
    nursing mothers.  Digital should support this very healthy and positive
    request.

    Laura
826.5Me too!PROSE::BLACHEKWed Apr 17 1991 16:097
    While I'm still nursing my baby, I am not pumping at this point. 
    However, I do think this room is very important to us all.  There needs
    to be a place that a woman can express that is both clean and private.
    
    I will send mail to Louise to encourage her to support this.
    
    judy
826.6There is an alternative, ZKO2-3TLE::MINAR::BISHOPWed Apr 17 1991 16:145
    I spoke to Louise Wilkins (of ZK health services organization) today.
    She said that mothers are welcome to use the "bed-rooms" that are in
    the main health services office in ZKO2-3.
    
    			-John Bishop
826.7Alternative facilities not always practicalAKOCOA::MACDOWELLThu Apr 18 1991 10:0313
    re .6
    
    John, While use of a nearby facility is better than nothing, its not
    always a viable option.  Pumping, for me, is not very easy, and made
    more difficult by a crazy schedule of meetings, etc.  I sometimes have
    no more than 15 minutes to pump.  This is barely enough time to run
    down to the nurse's office, get set-up, pump, clean up and get back to
    my desk.  I would not be able to get to another facility.  Luckily, in
    both facilities that I've worked, AKO1 and MSO2, the nurse have been
    very supportive, and there have been health services facilities
    available to me.
    
    Susan
826.8Available area for nursing mothers......WECARE::WILKINSThu Apr 18 1991 12:3921
    The ZKO Health Services area is avaiable for all nursing mothers to
    pump milk, and will continue to be available.  We believe that we have
    adequate space to accomodate the small number of employees requesting
    the area for this use.
    
    ZKO2 Health Services will continue to be the primary area to be used by
    nursing mothers.  Any other accommodations will be on an individual
    basis.
    
    As to time -- time available -- how to do this -- where will I get the
    time needed -- etc.  This is a decision that needs to be made
    individually.  Increasing stress levels due to time contraints does not
    help anyone.  Remember that time management is one of the first
    considerations in managing stress.
    
    If you have any further questions, please forward mail to me on
    WECARE::Wilkins
    
    Thank you
    Louise
    
826.9Use room for actual nursing tooINFACT::HILGENBERGThu May 02 1991 14:5715
These rooms could also be used by nursing mothers who pick up their babies
at lunch time and nurse them.  I know last fall we had 2 nursing mothers who
did this (the child care center is next door) but I guess they just used the
bathroom.  If I had my baby over there I would not have been able to use the
bathroom for this purpose because at that time my daughter needed almost
absolute quiet to nurse (I needed it too to relax enough for let-down).

So even though we don't need one at this moment (we're all 3 done 
breastfeeding), we or others might need one in the near future, and we're a
relatively small facility!  Gosh you guys out east probably *really* could
use them.

So, another vote for nursing/expressing rooms!

Kyra in Indianapolis where we currently have nothing.