Conference moira::parenting_v3

    I started my son out on solids when he turned 3 1/2 months old.
    I started with fruit, then vegatables, then white meats then red
    meats.  I gave him one thing for three days before changing to the
    next thing.  I was advised to do this by the pediatrician and in
    a few books that I read also suggested this.  The reason for giving
    them one thing for at least three days before trying something new
    is because if they are to have an alergic reaction to something
    and you've given them more than one type of food, you won't be able
    to tell which food it is that they're alergic to.
    
    Lori B.

    In the earlier PARENTING notesfile, I put in a list of suggested foods
    etc for various age groups, which I got from my doctor (written by a
    nutrionist).  I think it's in 1028.41 of the other file.
    

    re .2
    
    i looked in the other file, couldn't find that topic. If you come
    across it please let me know he note #.
    
    
    Thanks

    So, tell me how to get in to the old Parenting and I'll find it for
    you!
    

    If you do not have the file already it's: MRDATA::Parenting_V2.
    Just add it to your notes and open the file.
    
    Thanks for the help.
    Sandy

    After perusing V2, I couldn't find it anywhere, and the markers are
    gone, so here's the guidelines. They are lengthy but helpful.
    
    Regards,
    
    
    
    
	FEEDING BABIES:
GUIDELINES FOR INFANTS UP TO 1 YR. OLD


By the time your baby is one year old, s/he will probably
be able to eat table food and drink from a cup. But babies
need to learn how to eat. Their mouths need to learn how
to chew and swallow. Their bodies need to learn how to 
digest food. Babies are ready to learn these tasks at certain
ages. Once they are ready, they need to practice and experiment.
These guidelines will help you to know when to let your baby
try out new foods.

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AGE:	0-4 months

FOODS:  Breast milk or formula only.

REASON:	Baby's body not ready for solid foods. Solid foods
	at this age may cause allergies, choking, obesity.
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AGE:	4-5 months

FOODS:	Mostly breast milk or formula (25-40 oz. per day).

	Begin solid foods. Start with baby cereals plus iron
	in this order: rice, then oatmeal, then barley. Try
	one new food every 3-5 days.

To feed cereal, start with one tablespoon cereal plus 3-4
teaspoons breast milk or formula. Feed with a spoon, not 
through a bottle. At first just have cereal in the morning. Work 
up to morning and evening, feeding baby a total of 3-4 tablespoons
of cereal a day.

REASON:	Baby begins to need extra calories and nutrients that breast
	milk and formula do not have. Baby needs to start slowly,
	one food at a time, to avoid allergies, and get used to
	swallowing.
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AGE:	5-7 months

FOODS:	Breast milk or formula (25-40 oz per day)

	Baby cereal, morning and evening, total of 4-6 tablespoons
	a day.

Begin to feed vegetables and fruits to baby. Remember, add one food
every 3-5 days. If your baby refuses a food, try another from the
same food group.

Add strained vegetables. Use single, unsalted vegetables (no mixtures).
Start with yellow: carrots, squash, sweet potatoes. Then try green:
peas, green beans. Do not feed corn to baby. Start with one tablespoon
at lunch, and work up to 2-3 tablespoons a day spread out over
lunch and dinner.

Add fruits: strained or cooked, mashed and cooled (no seeds or skin).
Try bananas first, then unsweetened applesauce, peaches, pears. Start
with one tablespoon at lunch, and work up to 2-3 tablespoons spread over
breakfast, lunch and dinner.

REASON:	Baby is now used to spoon, and ready for more variety, nutrients,
and calories. Baby is not ready for meats yet. Single foods introduced
one at a time help baby adjust slowly, and are easy to swallow.
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AGE:	7-9 months

FOODS:	Breast milk or formula, 25-32 oz. per day.

	Baby cereal: 3-4 tablespoons at breakfast and again at dinner.
	Vegetables:  lunch and dinner, 2-3 tablespoons each meal.
	Fruits:	     breakfast, lunch and dinner, 2-3 tablespoons
	             each meal.

Try fruit juices in a cup. Use baby juices or unsweetened apple juice; no
orange or tomato juice until baby is 11 months old. Four ounces of juice
a day can be offered between meals.

Begin feed meat to baby: cooked, and mashed (no skin or fat) or strained
baby meats. Try one meat for 3-5 days and then try another. Start with
one tablespoon at lunch and work up to 2-3 tablespoons at both lunch
and dinner. You may offer cooked egg yolk, but no egg whites, 2-4 times
per week.

REASON:	Baby should continue breast milk or formula because baby's body
	is not ready for cow's milk yet. Baby is ready to learn to
	drink from a cup. Baby may form allergy to egg white.
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AGE:	9-12 months

FOODS:	Breast milk or formula, 25-32 oz. per day

	Baby cereal, other starchy foods: 3-4 tablespoons baby cereal
	at breakfast. At lunch and dinner, offer 2-4 tablespoons of
	rice, grits, noodles, macaroni, or mashed potato. Offer at
	least once snack per day of unsweetened dry cereal (e.g.
	Kix or cheerios), unsalted creackers, toast, graham crackers
	or arrowroot biscuits.

	Vegetables: Offer baby up to one jar of junior or 2 jars of 
	strained vegetables per day. Or try small, cut up pieces of
	cooked vegetables that baby can eat with fingers.

	Fruits: Offer up to 1 jar of junior or 2 jars of strained
	fruits per day. Or cut fresh fruit into small pieces, no
	seeds or skin or use 2-4 tablespoons of canned, unsweetened
	fruit.

	Protein foods: Offer baby up to one jar of junior or strained
	meats per day. If baby has teeth, offer chopped meats instead.
	Remove fat and skin. Baby may also eat cottage cheese, yogurt
	cheese cubes and cooked egg yolk.
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	FEEDING CHILDREN FROM 1-5 YEARS OLD

	     DAILY FOOD GUIDE

						SIZE OF SERVINGS
FOOD		# OF SERVINGS		1-3 YR OLD	3-5 YR OLD
=====================================================================
Milk: whole	  2-3 cups		Milk should be served in
low fat, evap-				child size portions: 1/2 -
orated mixed with			3/4 cup.
equal parts of
water, plain
yogurt, cheese	  1 oz cheese=1/2 cup

______________________________________________________________________
Protein: lean	   2			1/2-1 oz	1 1/2 -2 1/2
meat, fish, poultry			or 1-2 TBSPs.	oz. or 3-5 TBSPs
eggs, cheese, cottage					or 1/4 cup
cheese, dried peas,
beans, nuts, peanut
butter
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Vegetables & fruit:  
a) Dark green	 1 serving at least	1-2 TBSPs	3-5 TBSPs
   or deep yellow: every other day			or 1/4 cup
   greens, broccoli,
   pumpkin, carrot,
   cantalope, apricots
   sweet potato
b) Vitamin C foods: 1 serving of a good	1/3-1/2 cup	1/3-1/2 cup
   Good source:     source or 2 svgs. of
   citrus fruit or  a fair source every day
   juice, green pepper,
   cantalope, strawberries,
   broccoli, brussel sprouts
   Fair source: melons,
   greens, lemons, tomatoes,
   cabbage, tangerines

c) Other fruits and	1-3 svgs	1-2 TBSPs	3-5 TBSPs or
   vegetables	     One svg. of raw 			 1/4 cup
		    fruit/vegetable
		   should be eaten
	           daily.
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Bread and cereal:	4		1/2 slice bread	1 slice bread
whole grain or				or 1/4 cup dry	or 1/2 cup
enriched.				cereal or	dry cereal or
					1-2 TBSPs 	3-5 TBSPs 
					cooked cereal	cooked cereal
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Fats and oils:	 To be used in limited quantities.
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    re: .6
    
    Thanks for reposting this Lynn   I remember taking it from either
    V1 or V2 last year and posting it on my fridge!   It is indeed a
    very helpful set of guidelines!
    
    Carol

    
    I have a question that Lynn's guidlines really didn't clarify for me,
    my 5 month old has been on solids for about 1 month or so now.  He eats
    it twice a day, breakfast and dinner.  When do you start feeding the
    solids at lunch time?   Lately he has been eating much more at the am
    and pm meals, maybe its time now???
    
    thanks,
    elizabeth
    

    Elizabeth,
    
    I feed Danielle 1 solid feeding right now at supper time. What I need
    to know is, do you give a full bottle after a solid feeding? I have
    been. I just am not sure if I should give her 2 solid feedings a day.
    I will ask her Pedi tomorrow. Do you give your son any veggies? I've
    tried carrots,peas,sweet potatoe and squash, she loves them all, but
    I didn't know if I am to give her cereal and a veggie at the same meal
    or just veggies or just cereal! I don't know, this isn't easy. I don't
    want to feed her too much or too little.
    
    Sandy 

    re .8 (Hi Elizabeth!)
    your description sounded like you already have the answer - since
    Tanner's eating a lot more in the am and pm, I would definitely start
    offering some type of solid at lunch time. For us, it was often yogurt
    and fruit, and then we adde a vegetable.
    
    take care,
    

    
    re: .8
    
    I agree with Lynn.  If your son is wanting more in the am and pm,
    then it's probably time to add lunch.  I know that all pedis differ...
    but ours requested that we limit cereal feedings to twice per day.
    So, Jason's menu consisted of fruit and cereal for breakfast and
    dinner and veggies and fruit (or yogurt) for lunch.
    
    FWIW,  Carol

    
    Hmmmm, I've noticed that feeding routines are kind of geographical. 
    We've been to a whole host of pedi's and not one ever suggested solids
    before six months [unless there was a reason].  I have a dear friend
    who is a nutritionist for the county, she says things are different in
    the Northeast.  Does all the cold weather make babies hungrier or
    something?
    
    Rochelle
    
    BTW, We live in Southern California

    
    I believe that the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends *starting*
    solids between 4-6months of age.
    
    cj/

Can somebody tell me why the guidelines posted a few notes back say NOT to feed
a baby corn?  I fed my 9-month-old corn a couple nights ago with no apparent
ill effects.  Of course, I will admit most of it came out the other end
the next day undigested.

    Corn is incredibly hard to digest ... and can produce diarrhoea and
    tummy aches.  A little bit as you've noted usually causes no ill
    effects ... but ...
    
    Stuart

    
    re: .9
    Sandy - Sorry I haven't answered before this, I've been out all week
    with 2 sick kids!  This has been some week-I keep remembering what so
    many noters here say often "this to shall pass!"
    
    anyways, regarding Tanners bottles and feedings, here is a 'typical'
    day;
    
    wakes between 5-6 gets a bottle, drinks anywhere from 2-6 oz
    7:45-8:00 eats fruit & cereal
    9:00ish bottle (drinks anywhere from 3-6 oz
    12:30 ish - bottle 6-8oz
    4:00 ish - bottle 6-8oz
    5:30 cereal & fruit
    7:00 ish bottle 6oz
    7:30-8:00 bed!
    
    When I go shopping this weekend, I am going to pick up the veggies and
    start him on those.  I hadn't heard anything about cereal no more than
    twice a day, but it makes sense.  I also didn't know if I could start
    yogurt at 5 mos, but last night he had a taste of Spencers, and he
    loved it!!
    
    elizabeth