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529.1 | | TLE::STOCKSPDS | Cheryl Stocks | Thu Nov 29 1990 07:44 | 36 |
| Bathtime: when David reached the active stage, we put a big rubber mat in
the bottom of the tub and let him stand, crawl, walk as much as he wanted.
He's never fallen. You know your own child, though. If you don't think
he'd be safe doing this, maybe try switching to showers or sponge baths
for a while and then go back to the regular baths and see if things have
improved?
Clinginess: It sounds like this is your real problem, and is the cause of
most of the other things you've mentioned. David had his absolute peak of
clinginess at 9 months (I remember because it occurred during one of my
mother's visits). This may be what you're seeing with Michael. If so, he
should outgrow it soon. But I'd also consider whether he might be getting
teeth (one-year molars? a little early, but possible, I'd think, if the
rest of his teeth are in), or coming down with a cold, or maybe just
frazzled from holiday celebrations and preparations, or *something*. His
behavior sounds a little more extreme than what I remember of David's
separation anxiety at the same age.
Mealtime problems: Does he seem to be objecting to the high chair itself?
Try sitting him in a real chair with a booster seat or stack of books to
sit on. (Ok, Bruce, time for your Sassy Seat spiel. :) If it's related
to the clinginess, you might also try letting him sit on someone's lap
while he's eating. I think I'd try to avoid starting that as a habit,
though.
Not playing with toys: Just wait until Christmas, when his favorite toys
will be the wrapping paper and boxes and he'll completely ignore all
the wonderful and expensive presents he's been showered with! I think
this is competely normal. Don't push. Make it easy for him to get at
his toys when he does want to play with them, keep him away from harmful
and breakable things, and then just let him exercise his curiosity and
initiative. It does sound as though he'll be back to playing with toys
once he gets past this clinginess, though.
cheryl
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529.2 | my 12 cents :-) | FDCV06::HSCOTT | Lynn Hanley-Scott | Thu Nov 29 1990 08:27 | 40 |
| Welcome to the world of stages - every time you think you understand
your kid, they change! After a while, I got used to the fact that he'd
change, and just starte enjoying it more.
Bath time was always a favorite time for Ryan - like .1, we put a big
rubber mat in the bottom of the tub and allowed Ryan to stand since he
insisted on it - but no jumping etc. We've also seen the progression as
he's gotten older from 1/2 hr baths nightly to sometimes a 10 minute
bath once every 10 days. I just go with the flow, so to speak.
Spock/Brazelton have some great comments about mealtimes.... as kids
get mobile (and it's tougher when that's early), they find that much
more interesting than sitting still. We stopped using the high chair at
12 months because he wasn't interested, and it wasn't worth the battle.
Many a night still (at 2 and 4 mo), Ryan eats standing up, with his
dinner on a chair. You decide what battles you're willing to fight and
this was one I don't want to make a big thing out of. BTW, I have a
great article on toddler and eating habits if anyone is interested. It
really helped me a lot.
As for toys, I think Ryan was at the age of Michael when I started
offering the Tupperware cabinet, right near me in the kitchen, since
his toys were "boring" to him. So he could play near me or under me
(!) while I cooked.
And finally clinginess is a fact of life, that thank goodness we have
moved somewhat beyond. I remember well those days of juggling dinner
and a hefty kid at the same time. The backpack helps, as does a side
sling called Sara's Ride. Frees up your hands but keeps the kid close.
Oddly enough, I still have an old article that discusses the advantages
of carrying your child as much as possible (in a backpack or such) -
the author maintains that it actually helps encourage later
independence, since your child has been a part of your world from a
very early age.
So have fun, and don't worry about Michael becoming a terror or a nasty
- when you stop and think about how much he's learning and absorbing
all at once, it's amazing they don't overload! We definitely would!
Lynn
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529.3 | not a nice stage... | CNTROL::STOLICNY | | Thu Nov 29 1990 08:29 | 9 |
| I'll make this short and sweet: Jason's behaved EXACTLY as you
have described Michael from approximately 9 months until just after
his first birthday. It was a terribly trying time for both of us
and I'm afraid that I have no constructive suggestions for you as
I didn't find any real "cure" other than time. So, there's at least
one other child out here that exhibited such extreme behaviour!!
Best of luck to you and Pat,
cj/
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529.4 | Same Situations | CECV01::POND | | Thu Nov 29 1990 09:12 | 36 |
| I also had similar issues with Elizabeth at that age. I remember
entering a note in PARENTING (a few volumes ago) about feeding her on
my lap. She absolutely *would not tolerate* the high chair. The only
way I could feed her was to sit her on my lap and feed her from the
table. (This is backwards, and doesn't provide the best view of the
mouth.) Anyway, I was convinced that this style of eating would either
warp her psychologically forever or convince her that this was the only
way to eat. (I envisioned a college student still sitting on my lap.
:) ) However, the stage passed and life went on.
I also remember E trying to spring from the bath. She was a little
older, however, maybe around 18 months. That one passed, too. Now, at
3, she's back to loving the bath; she pretends she's the Little Mermaid.
Still not hot on the hair washing business, though.
As for the clinginess...HA! Elizabeth *still* hasn't passed through
that one! She *still* wants to be picked up, especially since there's
a relatively new baby in the house. So, while it is extremely
inconvenient to hoist a 35 pounder, it's not worth the hassle not to.
And finally, E *is* into toys, but only fairly recently. She can now
play pretty independently with paints, clay, or Duplo blocks. This
didn't start to happen, however, until around 2 years. At your son's
age, E would be slightly interested in toys, but only if Mom was around
to play with them, too.
I suppose I gradually learned to accept the fact that kids really don't
care that you (parents) have an agenda. It's not malicious, they're
just unaware of any concerns but they're own. They do grow out of
this, however, especially with a little "coaching".
Good luck with Michael. As you've already discovered, these stages do
come and go. "And this, too, shall pass..."
LZP
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529.5 | | SSGV02::VERGE | | Thu Nov 29 1990 09:14 | 5 |
| Something to consider - if he's growing fast (don't they all?)
maybe he needs to eat earlier. Also, would he sit in a little
chair at a little person's table? Harder for you to help
him eat, but it just his size, he won;t be "tied" in, like in
a high chair, and he just might like it!
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529.6 | Take it easy | HYSTER::DELISLE | | Thu Nov 29 1990 09:38 | 43 |
| First of all - RELAAAXXXXX. What your son is exhibiting is perfectly
normal. If they didn't change over time, they'd never grow!
My 15 month old went through much of what you're describing. The
bathtimes are now performed standing up with about 2 inches of water in
the tub, the shower massage turned on, and the kid dashing back and
forth screaming, giggling and throwing toys out of the tub. I soap him
up while clingy on to an arm, wwash his hair, then rinse him down with
the shower massage.
I remember about 4 months ago Josh being absolutely impossible in his
high chair. He just wuld not sit still in it! You can handle it in two
ways - give in and put him on your lap to eat, or on a booster or
something; or you can persist and teach him that high chairs are where
you eat. (By the way we also use a Sassy Seat in the kitchen and he
hated that too). I chose the latter. When he fussed I'd take him out
of the high chair and put him on the floor. Then when he indicated he
wanted food, I'd put him back in the high chair. We would go through
this 5 or 6 times a night at dinnertime! It all depends on your
patience level, But I did not want to feed a child on my lap every
night, and I didn't want to "teach" him that was permitted. He's fine
now, eats in the high chair or the Sassy Seat without a problem.
Toys are for parents not babies! That's one thing I've learned. Wait
till they hit 1 1/2 to 2 to develop a true interest in their toys.
Till then it's the toilet paper, your underwear drawers, your nicely
lined up shoes, towels in the kitchen drawers, basically anything on
their eye level. That's precisely the reason you have to go around and
"kid-proof" your house! 8*}
The clingyness is tough. I've known mothers who carry their kid around
in a backpack ALL DAY LONG. Even doing housecleaning, cooking and
laundry with them attached. Not for me. The best I can advise is to
have patience, it will pass, and try to have something the child can do
in the same vicinity as your wife, like playing with pots/pans while
cooking, etc. Actually my kids used to "help" me do the laundry, pick
up the house, put dishes away from the dishwasher.
Take it easy, it will pass on to another stage, probably one where he's
as independent as they come and you'll look back on these days fondly.
After all, you've never seen a five year old go to kindergarten on his
mother's back have yu? 8*}
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529.7 | Bath Ideas | ISTG::HOLMES | | Thu Nov 29 1990 12:00 | 30 |
| Here are some bath-time suggestions...
Have you tried getting some new tub toys for him? Even though Brian
didn't play too much with toys outside the bath at that age, he always
loved playing with his tub toys. Maybe it was the way they floated
around in the water that intrigued him. His favorite were those
"bubbles" -- the little balls with things that spin around inside
(seahorses, starfish, mickey mouse, etc).
If you are determined to keep him sitting (that was the number 1 rule
for Brian), you could try a bath ring. Its a plastic ring with four
legs with suction cups on the bottom. The ring is about 6 inches from
the bottom of the tub and it holds the baby in a sitting position in
the tub. We always used it because it was easier for us to wash Brian
without having to hold onto him, and it was more fun for him to play
without the constaints of our hands. They aren't very big, so I doubt
that Michael could get himself to a standing position very easily. He
may scream in it, but maybe if you introduce it along with the new
toys, he'll forget he's in it (wishful thinking?!).
If you do decide that standing is okay, I would definitely get the
rubber mat for the bottom of the tub. I've also seen foam-rubber
type things that fit over the faucets and the place where the water
comes out. That would at least stop him from hitting hard metal if he
did fall.
Good luck!
Tracy
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529.8 | | POWDML::SATOW | | Thu Nov 29 1990 12:35 | 38 |
| Steve,
I really appreciate the notes you enter, even though I don't always have
ideas for you, or time to respone. They read almost like a textbook of phases
that kids go through. Your notes and the replies to them are, IMO, this
notesfile at its best. Thanks for taking the time to enter them. You
obviously care a lot.
re: bath
Perhaps a compromise is one of those "bath showers" -- I don't know the
correct term. One end fits over the faucet, the other end has a head the
emits a fine spray, with a flexible hose in between. It enables you to wash
and rinse a standing toddler. They also have the advantage of making it easy
to wash hair if a child refuses to "dunk", and they prevent essentially pad
the faucet, a common source of injury. Another possibility might be a "shower
massage". Downside -- some kids have trouble with the spray.
Does he just want to stand while he is being washed, or the whole time he is
in the bath? If it's the latter, maybe another compromise might be that he
stands, someone attends him, but he doesn't get to stay in the bath very long.
I wouldn't be suprised, though, if he gets bored standing up, and once he is
washed, decides to sit down.
re: needing to be held
I like the suggestion of slings, backpacks, etc., though if I remember
correctly, at 10 months, they get kinda heavy to carry constantly. One
suggestion -- is it just mommy, or is Michael amenable to being held by YOU?
If so, perhaps she could delay the heavy meal preparation until you're home.
Also, I assume from your "wine in the cooking" question that you like to eat
nice meals. Even with my wife not working now, we have pretty much abandoned
our "gourmet" habits. Waistlines, cholesterol, two finicky kids, and a tight
schedule have taken care of that. Our meals now are very basic, and any
exotic meals are reserved for the weekend.
Clay
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529.9 | at least they are predictable... | YIELD::BROOKE | | Thu Nov 29 1990 12:39 | 32 |
| I've gone through the same things with all three of my sons at about
the same age as yours is now - the third is in the clinging stage now.
It passes, so no matter what you do about it you cannot stop this
progression, or speed it up. The "answer" is the same as with just
about any behaviour problem- do what you are comfortable with doing.
It is more important to keep your cool and be consistent than it is to
be "right". I have the sitter feed my kids dinner early so that when
we get home (frazzled as usual) they are not hungry and cranky. We can
spend time with them, then eat late. Face it, kids were not meant to
eat with silverware, especially when everything FEELS so good!
Another note here, do not worry too much about how much your son is
eating now, he has better things to do with his time and doesn't need
to eat as much as during the first year. "Manners" won't start until
at least 3 (unless he is like my second son - a genuine INDIVIDUAL!)
Baths are generally one of the favorite activities. We keep lots of
tub toys there. We do enforce the no standing rule for safety sake, so
that during the "standing" or "fear of water" stage the bathtime is
very short, but that passes, too. Beware, the next stage is "how wet
can we get the bathroom before Mommy stops us" (pretty wet, but that's
why they invented vinyl wallpaper!)
Finally, clingy is tough on everyone. I generally give in when I can
(yes, the side sling thing is good for vacuuming, but I refused to hold
any while I was cooking...their little hands are just too fast at
reaching out and grabbing/pulling). Playpens are handy here (and
earplugs). It, too, shall pass (and then you say "he never wants to be
near us!)
Relax, and GOOD LUCK!
/Laura
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529.10 | Buy ear plugs... | 6348::ORTH | | Thu Nov 29 1990 13:59 | 43 |
| Oh, Steve, you've described the not-quite-one-year-old to a "T"!
All three of ours went through this to one degree or another, but what
I can assure you of, is it passes...really!
Our two oldest never developed a great dislike for the tub, although
got whiny about to one extent or another. Daniel, on the other hand was
another story, at about 11 mos. he abruptly began to cry when he would
even just hear the water running into the tub! Made for distinctly
unfun times. We *never* allow a child to stand unattended, and never
allow the littler ones to stand at all (like for washing bottoms)
unless a parent has hands-on contact. We *did* have Josh fall as a
toddler and he whacked his little head very hard on the side of the
tub. Scared the whits out of us, but other than a huge goose egg that
turned lovely technicolor shades, there was no real damage. We have,
and I would *highly* recommend, one of the foam rubber tub faucet
covers. It has not only prevented the kids from getting hurt, but my
wife . She was sort of crouching down, scrubbing at a stain in the tub,
and stood up *under* the faucet. It scraped up her lower back, but the
foam kept it down to just a bruise, whereas she would have had a nasty,
deep scrape if it hadn't been on there. What we used to get Daniel to
stay happily in the tub is not available to you! We had one of the
older kids get in with him, and he loved it! Maybe you or Pat could get
in with him?
Our kids went through stages of high chair dislike, but we felt it to
be a battle we needed to win. The crying didn't last all that long
(relatively speaking!), and once they decided they had to accept it,
there were no more battles. I do agree with the possibility of eating
too late for him, though. If he's too hungry, that hunger can surface
as all sorts of socially unacceptable behavior!
And finally, clinginess. Our 3.5 year old is still clingy, and Daniel
at 19.5 mos., goes in and out of it. We basically, held 'em when we
could, and didn't when we couldn't...and listened to them crying and
hollering. Tell Pat to hlod him as musch as she can, and then don't
feel guilty about the rest of the times! He will survive, and she will
too! Kids do have to learn at some point that they do not control our
every waking moment...influence it, yes, but control it, no.
Can't you just wait to see what the *next* stage will bring???????
--dave--
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529.11 | what he (.10) said! | JAWS::WOOLNER | Photographer is fuzzy, underdeveloped and dense | Thu Nov 29 1990 15:21 | 20 |
| .10> What we used to get Daniel to stay happily in the tub is not
.10> available to you! We had one of the older kids get in with him,
.10> and he loved it! Maybe you or Pat could get in with him?
I was wondering why I had no memories of the standing-in-bathtub angst
when I saw Dave's answer. Of course--gee, has it been that long?--Alex
and I took baths together. I know, I know - talk about repeating
tasks unnecessarily! It all started when I discovered I needed three
hands to wash a squirming baby, and there's no third grownup-hand in a
single parent family. So we climbed in together. One of the bennies
was that as she got older she delighted in sitting behind me and
washing my back!
I call that clinginess the "drunken monkey phase" (no relation to the
wine-in-cooking note!), because that's what Alex acted like in the
kitchen, swinging around and through my legs while perfecting her
whine. I never did find a way out of that. Earplugs, finger-food
appetizers and the passage of time sound to me like the best bet.
Leslie
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529.12 | our solution to the bath problem | CNTROL::STOLICNY | | Thu Nov 29 1990 15:33 | 8 |
| Oh, now I do remember something that we did to alleviate the standing
in the bath problem....we switched to bathing Jason in the kitchen
sink! He was much happier to be on the same level as us (more or less)
and he surely gets more attention and playtime with us this way since
our backs aren't breaking from all the stooping over. This is probably
the ONLY advantage of having a large, single bowl kitchen sink!
cj/
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529.13 | Our Experiences: Baths, High Chairs, Cooking | CSC32::DUBOIS | The early bird gets worms | Thu Nov 29 1990 16:18 | 29 |
| I don't remember what we did about the bath problem, but we may have
bought/borrowed/invented new bath toys. He could only play with them
while sitting down; I know this worked later, just don't remember the age
we started it. I also learned to do the bathing early, and then just let
him play. Otherwise he would pitch a fit if I tried to bathe him after
he was ready to get out.
As for the high chair thing, I don't remember how old Evan was before
we all got to eat together! It was wonderful the first time that
*Shellie and I* got to eat together,and usually that was after Evan was
in bed asleep. When we did eat "together" then our rule was simply that
if he wanted to eat, he had to do so sitting in the high chair (or in
our laps occasionally) but he could not be standing up or running around.
When he was hungry enough, he sat and ate. When he really wanted to be
running/crawling around, we ate without him. After a while you learn to
pick your fights, and to us this was as much energy as we wanted to give it.
For cooking, either I would entertain him while Shellie cooked (he didn't
learn to play with toys alone until he was about 2), or else he would
stand up on a chair close enough to see her cooking but far enough away
to stay out of trouble. At first I think I stood there with him to make
sure he kept safe, the chair wouldn't fall, etc. As he got older we would
put the chair next to the counter so it wouldn't tip over, but still far
enough away from the stove to keep him safe. Evan *loves* to cook.
I agree with Clay - your notes are great. Perfect examples of the stages
most of our kids go through. Remember, Steve and Pat, this, too, shall pass.
:-}
Carol
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529.14 | Change is the only constant | POWDML::SATOW | | Thu Nov 29 1990 17:02 | 7 |
| One other thing.
It IS sad when activities that were so enjoyable become times of conflict.
But it's also true that activities that were either unenjoyable, unnotable, or
even nonexistent become sources of great enjoyment later.
Clay
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529.15 | US TOO!!!! | VALUES::DECKER | | Thu Nov 29 1990 21:50 | 26 |
| This is SOOO weird to read all these notes about EXACTLY what we've
been going through with Erik for about 2 months now (he just turned
1 yr.) And here I was thinking we were alone in this.
Mealtime used to be a relaxing time to talk/giggle etc. I don't have
too much trouble with him in the high-chair but bottle time is
absolutely unbearable!!! It's not that he doesn't like it, he just
doesn't want to sit still (my conclusion) long enough to drink it. I'm
lucky if I get 8-10 oz.'s of milk per day into him. I have to make it
up with yogurt, icecream.
Bathtime isn't that bad either. But changing him is like World War
II!!!!! He flips over, arches his back and basically screams like I'm
torturing him!!
He's also very clingy. Wants to be held alot (although he will play
for 20-30 minutes by himself, with legal toys....)_
The new game is reaching for me (so I take him) then reaching for Daddy
(so he takes him) and on and on and on............................
Oh well, like they say. I guess this will pass. (I'll have to take
everyone word for it because Erik is our 1st).
Bonnie
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529.16 | Each day is different ... thanks! | SCAACT::RESENDE | Digital, thriving on chaos? | Thu Nov 29 1990 21:58 | 20 |
| Heh, heh, heh. Aren't kids just unpredictable?
*TODAY* Mr. Michael was the picture of perfection for Pat. Ate well,
bathed well, slept well, did't ask *even once* to be picked up (though
she held him lots as usual anyway). Completely different behaviour
than the past few weeks. Maybe he knew he'd driven us to PARENTING!
Predicting his behaviour is as easy as predicting DEC stock?! Of
course, tomorrow's a whole new day.
Pat feels so much better since I told her everyone here has been
through the same thing. I really appreciate your ideas and thoughts.
This is such fun!
Thanks,
Michael's _RELAXED_ Daddy
PS -- yeah, he *IS* getting heavy to lug around. But Pat's developing
some really strong arm muscles for the first time in her life! :-)
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529.17 | Better views up there!! | MAJORS::MANDALINCI | | Fri Nov 30 1990 10:07 | 15 |
| Oh boy do I remember the start of this stage very well. I think we
"nipped it in the bud" as soon as it started because I allowed my son
to participate in everything I was doing. This is when all the
non-breakable kitchen stuff went in the lower cabinets and he played
with it during meal prep time. He also helped with the laundry and the
cleaning (dusting, pretending to wash, etc). I think I tried to make
him realize that he didn't have to be in my arms or on my hip to
actually be with me. I did talk to him constantly so he felt like I
was practically on top of him all the time.
I think they realize at this age that there are 2 worlds - the one at
knee level and the one at your level. They want to be yours and stop
looking at ankles!!
Andrea
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529.18 | . . . the real truth of the matter . . . | RDVAX::COLLIER | Bruce Collier | Fri Nov 30 1990 14:44 | 14 |
|
It's nice of all these noters to try to make you feel better, but don't
believe what they say. No child ever outgrows unpleasant behavior. And
no normal kid would act like this if his parents were raising him right.
My guess is that you are doing something really awful, like using the
wrong amount of soap when you do his laundry. And no decent collage will
ever accept him once the world learns that he won't sit down in the bath.
- Bruce
. . . who has not only passed up a chance to give a
sermonette on Sassy Seats, but also refrained from
trumpeting the merits of taking him into the shower
with you.
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529.19 | I can't wait for the clingy stage | DELNI::SCORMIER | | Fri Nov 30 1990 15:55 | 10 |
| I must have the most contrary child - David NEVER wants to be picked up
or cuddled. He's MUCH too busy for that mushy stuff! The only time I
have ever seen him the least bit clingy was last week when he had a
virus and needed to be carried around to get to all those things he
normally would run to himself. He was just too uncomfortable to walk,
so I had to play taxi. He's approaching the big "1" next week, so
maybe this will change??? I'm almost looking forward to him "wanting"
to be held!
Sarah
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529.20 | The TRUTH | POWDML::SATOW | | Fri Nov 30 1990 16:52 | 16 |
| re: .18
> My guess is that you are doing something really awful, like using the
> wrong amount of soap when you do his laundry.
Very unlikely. The most common cause of such behavior is feeding babies
unheated formula.
Clay
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529.21 | | TLE::STOCKSPDS | Cheryl Stocks | Fri Nov 30 1990 18:12 | 10 |
| re .19:
Ah, your David sounds like my David at the same age. (Just when I
was starting to think I must have had the only non-clingy baby in the
history of the universe!) My guess is that if he hasn't been clingy
yet, you've missed your chance. My David is nearly 3, and the amount
of clinging he did peaked at 9 months (it wasn't bad then) and has
decreased pretty consistently ever since. He does like hugs and
lap-sitting and all that, just not for long!
cheryl
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529.22 | and if they're not breastfed, they don't get into Yale? | TLE::RANDALL | Bonnie Randall Schutzman | Mon Dec 03 1990 09:34 | 4 |
| Steven and Kat were both non-clingers, which makes my David's
clinginess a bit of a shock even though I know it's normal.
--bonnie
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529.23 | Go Away, Mom! | DELNI::SCORMIER | | Mon Dec 03 1990 13:06 | 7 |
| Not only is my David not clingy, but this morning I dropped him off at
a new babysitter and I expected him to be a little apprehensive. I
bent down to give him a kiss goodbye, and got his little palm in my
face and a very decided shove! Anybody want to share a little
"clingy-ness" : )
Sarah
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529.24 | | FDCV06::HSCOTT | Lynn Hanley-Scott | Mon Dec 03 1990 13:17 | 3 |
| Sigh.... yeah, we're now at the stage of "no, don't kiss me". If I do,
he pretends to take the kiss off his cheek and give it back !:-)
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529.25 | Don't Kiss Me! Take it back! ;-) | CSC32::DUBOIS | The early bird gets worms | Mon Dec 03 1990 14:57 | 10 |
| < Sigh.... yeah, we're now at the stage of "no, don't kiss me". If I do,
< he pretends to take the kiss off his cheek and give it back !:-)
Ahhh, you haven't learned the *real* trick! When you, the parent, kiss
your child who doesn't want to be kissed, then *you* offer to take it back.
Then you make a backwards kiss on the same spot, sucking in a little air
(be sure to make noise for the sound effect). That way, *you* get two
kisses and the kid stays happy, too! ;-)
Carol
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529.26 | I *knew* this conference could pinpoint our error! | SCAACT::RESENDE | Digital, thriving on chaos? | Mon Dec 03 1990 21:18 | 9 |
| Wow, Bruce ... you're a genius! Pat did Michael's laundry on Friday
and used Tide instead of Sears detergent, and he was the model child
all weekend!
Wonder if he'd become a prodigy if we stopped heating his bottles??
(^;
Steve
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529.27 | | FDCV06::HSCOTT | Lynn Hanley-Scott | Wed Dec 05 1990 14:15 | 3 |
| re .25
Thanks Carol :-)
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529.28 | | RDVAX::COLLIER | Bruce Collier | Fri Dec 07 1990 15:22 | 26 |
| In re: .23 (.24. .25)
.23 > Anybody want to share a little "clingy-ness" : )
Sarah
Actually, consulting other strings in the file would make clear that
there are PLENTY of MADs <Moms And Dads> who suffer painfully from over
clinginess at drop-off. I suggest lining up on opposite sides of the
room; then on Tuesday and Thursday, everyone swap theirs for one from
the other group who has the opposite problem. We'll never get the kids
to take a middle ground, but this way they'll average out for
particular parents. And takers?
As an alternative to the anti-kiss of .24 & .25, I offer the Missed
Kiss. I originated this as pure silliness with Aaron at about age 2,
before "grownup dignity" had occured to anybody. Thusly: with heads a
coupl of feet apart, come rapidly together for a big Smackeroo, but
"accidently" miss (randomly on either side) so that heads pass without
touching at all; repeat endlessly, varying angles, sides, degree of
miss, but with constantly building levels of surprise at failure. Eric
loved it too. And he's now at the Too Grownup for Goodbye Kiss phase
(sometimes); but, he still Loves a sequence of Missed Kisses,
_especially_ in a public setting; and after a few of them, he's also
delighted to have a regular kiss, too.
- Bruce
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529.29 | Update on Michael the Grump | SCAACT::RESENDE | Digital, thriving on chaos? | Fri Dec 07 1990 18:32 | 44 |
| Just an update...
We've been trying quite a few things to make life a little more
pleasant with our grumpy son. Many of the things suggested here helped
almost immediately, and Pat and I are both grateful for the advice.
For example, feeding him his dinner earlier has made a huge difference
in his attitude. Also, Pat has stopped trying to *feed* him table food.
She feeds him his baby food, and whatever finger food he has for dinner
he eats himself. That way he has complete control over the strange new
substances, and seems to be far happier with that arrangement.
As far as bath time goes, she finally gave up and started putting him
in the tub outside his Stay 'n Play ring. The ring is still there,
suctioned to the bottom of the tub, so he can use it to hold on to if
he wants. Well, for exactly a week he reveled in his new-found bathtub
freedom, lunging all over the tub for toys, etc. and creating new grey
hairs for my wife. But Pat just gritted her teeth, and managed to
catch him when he slipped so he made it through the week without
drowning. Well lo and behold this morning she put him in the tub as
usual, and what did he do but climb *into* the ring, sit down, and stay
there throughout the whole bath! I've given up trying to understand
what goes on inside that cute, exasperating little head!
The clinging has been the hardest thing to deal with, and again this
conference came through with a wonderful suggestion. Pat and I have
both been trying to hold Michael as much as we possibly can, but there
are just times when we need both hands free. So we took someone's
suggestion about using the Gerry backpack, and he's just happy as a
clam in it! Pat "wears" him on her back when she's fixing dinner if he
complains about wanting to be held, and he can watch everything she's
doing over her shoulder. The Snugli was absolutely great when he was
tiny, and we still use it on planes. But the backpack has proved to be
just the thing now that he's big enough to be bothered by physical
restriction, and wearing it around the house is infinitely preferable
to having a little ankle-biter clinging to your legs and whining.
Well, life has become a little more bearable now, though Michael's
still showing some of the same behavior described in the base note. I
think the best thing we got from your replies was your reassurance that
our child isn't doing something completely outside the norm, as we
initially thought. Thanks again for all your help!
Steve
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