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Conference moira::parenting_v3

Title:Parenting
Notice:READ 1.27 BEFORE WRITING
Moderator:CSC32::DUBOIS
Created:Wed May 30 1990
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1364
Total number of notes:23848

435.0. "4-MONTH-OLD NIGHT-TIME "TENSION"" by DONVAN::MUISE () Fri Oct 19 1990 13:51

    I was so thrilled when my (now 4 mos. old) gave up night feedings
    at 6 weeks!  I thought unlike my first I'd be sleeping through the
    night at this point.
    
    Wrong.  My usually very happy, easy baby seems to save up all her
    tension, frustrations, problems, fussiness or whatever for nighttime.
    
    She can cry (usually more in her sleep) anywhere from 1-3 times a
    night to (last night) every 20 minutes or so!!
    
    Now, at this point, I would certainly let her cry it out, however...
    she is now flipping over on her back (she is exclusively a on-tummy
    sleeper) and cannot yet get herself back on her tummy.  So every
    time she cries in the night I feel I have to check her to flip her
    back.  
    
    When she wakes in the morning, she is once again a happy, delightful
    child - so I would imagine there is nothing wrong with her.  But I
    really don't know what to do about these nights.  After last night I
    am actually dreading going to bed tonight!  Every 20-30 minutes is
    really inhuman!
    
    Any thoughts or suggestions will be appreciated.
    
    Thanks,
    jacki
    
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435.1Ears?HYSTER::DELISLEFri Oct 19 1990 14:5215
    Is this new for her?  If it is, I would suspect there is something
    wrong with her - ear infection.  I know that the earliest symptoms in
    my children when they are just ocming down with an ear infection is
    sleeplessness at night.  Tossing and turning, crying out at night.  In
    the morning they are fine, but within a few days, it has developed into
    a full blown ear infection, and off the the doctor's we go.
    
    If this is not the case, you may have inadvertantly opened up a
    hornet's nest by going in and turning her back onto her tummy when she
    flips over.  This is similar to the pacifier situation, where a baby
    loses her pacifier in the middle of the night and mom is continually up
    in the middle of the night plugging it back in!  You might try letting
    her cry it out on her back ? %-(
    
    
435.2Ear InfectionCSC32::DUBOISThe early bird gets wormsFri Oct 19 1990 16:0810
Ears is the first thing I thought of, too.  Evan never seems bothered
by ear infections during the day, but at night he wakes up a lot (or
at least more often than if he doesn't have an infection).

BTW, I think any way that you can add to her comfort is fine, including
turning her over again.  I feel more comfortable sacrificing some rest
for myself in order to take care of the needs of my baby.  Some folks
don't agree, but I have no regrets.

      Carol
435.3RDVAX::COLLIERBruce CollierMon Oct 22 1990 11:4512
    .0 >     she is now flipping over on her back (she is exclusively a
    .0 > on-tummy sleeper) and cannot yet get herself back on her tummy.  So
    .0 > every time she cries in the night I feel I have to check her to flip
    .0 > her back.  
    
    I agree with .1.  She is exclusively an on-tummy sleeper because you
    are training her that way.  If you let her, she will learn to 1) sleep
    on her back, 2) stop flipping in the first place, or 3) flip back.  If
    you keep managing this for her, it could go on forever.
    
    		- Bruce
    
435.4TLE::STOCKSPDSCheryl StocksMon Oct 22 1990 19:1222
re .3:
>    I agree with .1.  She is exclusively an on-tummy sleeper because you
>    are training her that way.
    
Bruce, usually I think you are right on target, but this time I disagree.
I have 2 "tummy-only" sleepers, and turning them back to their tummies at
this age was definitely the right thing to do.  I think they would cry
indefinitely if left on their backs, and it took (at least) several weeks
before they were physically capable of turning back over by themselves.
Fortunately, we rarely had this problem at night, but I did a lot of turning
them over during the day, mostly while they were awake and playing, but also
sometimes during naps (usually while they were getting settled to fall asleep).

To .0:

You may be able to recognize a special frantic cry that means "I'm stuck on
my back - help!", and not have to get up to go check every time the baby cries
at night.  Or maybe you can wedge the baby in place so that it's harder for
him/her to turn over?  With luck, you will discover the cause of the night
waking (and cure it), or it will go away on its own very soon.  Good luck!

								cheryl
435.5AN UPDATEDONVAN::MUISETue Oct 23 1990 15:0812
    Well, the next night I carefully rolled up 2 small crib comforters
    and wedged them under the bumper pads, to minimize any space to
    flip over.  I'm happy to report that she only had her usual one
    "wake up call" around 4-4:30 am.  I checked her (out of habit), but
    found her on her tummy, and let her fall back to sleep on her own
    (which she did each night).  
    
    I don't know if this is the end of it, but this baby definitely did
    not want to be on her back!  Thanks for the input.
    
    jacki
    
435.6Baby HammockNRADM::TRIPPLThu Oct 25 1990 17:5415
    You wedged the blankets to keep her from flipping over.  That's
    exactly what I was thinking.  But isn't there some gadget that fits
    into the crib for a small baby.  Not sure what it's called, but it
    seems to me it attaches to the four corners, kind of like a hammock and
    is supposed to be soothing to a newborn.  It would seem that would keep
    the baby from flipping over too.  Perhaps you could improvise some kind
    of hammock think from a blanket.
    
    My cousin's wife had a similar problem and put her daughter down on a
    baby quilt, with cotton lining.  The baby seemed comforted by being
    sort of "snuggled" into the extra padding.
    
    Catch some ZZZZZZZ's!!!
    Lyn
    
435.7about 1 monthDELNI::SCORMIERMon Oct 29 1990 15:447
    I used two crib pillows on either side of my son to keep him from
    rolling.  When he did manage to flip  himself, he'd scream blue murder
    until I rolled him back.  It lasted about 1 month, until he figured out
    that if he could roll back during the day, he could roll back at night!
    I guess being a little groggy with sleep made him forget he had the
    skills to right himself.