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Conference moira::parenting_v3

Title:Parenting
Notice:READ 1.27 BEFORE WRITING
Moderator:CSC32::DUBOIS
Created:Wed May 30 1990
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1364
Total number of notes:23848

331.0. "PAINT & CHEMICALS & PREGNANCY" by PEKING::LYNGA () Fri Sep 14 1990 09:00

    
    
    I've just been reading something under a totally different topic which
    mentioned as an aside that pregnant women should'nt get near paint and
    chemicals.
    
    Help!  I've been decorating for the last 4 weeks with lots of paint and
    turps, white spirit etc.  I'm 7 months pregnant.
    
    I also read somewhere that pregnant women should'nt bleach their hair.
    
    Does anyone know the dangers please?
                     
    Thanks.
    Alison
    
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331.1KAOFS::S_BROOKIt's time for a summertime dreamFri Sep 14 1990 10:2021
Just to set your mind a little more at ease ... over the years more women
have decorated the house while pregnant than I would care to begin to count,
so, this is one of many "best if avoided" type things, like most drugs and
so on.  There is now such a health consciousness for mothers-to-be and
growing children that I'm sure if they thought about it, the experts would
have us all in hypo-allergenic plastic bubbles!

On a more serious note though, and this applies to anyone doing home
decorating, and not just pregnant mothers, there are a lot of volatile
and toxic solvents used in paints and thinners etc. that are best avoided
by everybody.  Obviously then, no-one would paint a house without moving out!
So, the best advice is avoid breathing the fumes where possible, and
ensure that your windows are open.  If the smell gets strong get a fan to help
blow them out (an electric heater on "Fan only" will do).

Wallpapering too isn't without danger, because the adhesives contain toxic
fungicides.  Avoid too much contact and wash it off regularly.

So, the bottom line is ... be careful.

Stuart
331.2Add to the BEST AVOIDED listMAJORS::MANDALINCIFri Sep 14 1990 10:5322
    Hi Alison,
    
    Your comment about bleaching your hair while pregnant...that's another
    of the "best avoided" things. With bleaching, perming, henna rinses,
    etc you are applying in directly to your scalp and it is assumed that
    a certain amount is absorbed by your skin. How much, who really knows
    and how much it takes to harm a developing baby, who knows? Some
    doctors will specifically say don't and some say try to avoid it.
    
    Also be warned, alot of women's hair does funny things while they are
    pregnant so the results could be very favorable or disastorous. My
    mother's hair went from dirty blonde to brunette with auburn highlights
    by the time she finished having 2 kids. My hair grows like crazy and loses
    all its body (this is when I want to perm but he held back) when I'm 
    pregnant. I'd be a perfect commercial for shavers!!!
    
    It's all the same for things like nutra-sweet, caffine, even
    chemically decafinated coffees, etc. They are chemicals that can affect 
    a developing baby but the dosage needed is questionable. They are "best 
    avoided"!!!
                                                            
    Andrea (how are you feeling these days??)
331.3Hi Andrea!PEKING::LYNGAFri Sep 14 1990 12:2916
    
    Hi Andrea,
    
    Thanks for the tips.
    
    I'm feeling wonderful still!  I'm so lucky - I've had no trouble at
    all, apart from being a little anaemic.  I'm not really that tired and
    can't complain about anything.  Boringly healthy, some would say!
    
    Two months to go yet, though.  S'pose this is when all the fun starts!
    
    How are you?
    
    Kind Regards.
    Alison
    
331.4oil-based=no (?)GENRAL::M_BANKSMon Sep 17 1990 16:239
About the paint--isn't there one specific base that should DEFINITELY be
avoided?  I'm thinking I was told oil base should definitely be avoided
while latex is o.k.

I'm not remembering too well here, nor am I a chemist... can someone help
me out with the specifics?


Marty
331.5water-based paint okay, oil-based noSCAACT::COXKristen Cox - Dallas ACT Sys MgrMon Sep 17 1990 17:057
My OB told me to avoid oil-based paints, but water-based paints were okay.
No idea why, but we did alot of painting on our old house before moving out,
and on Kati's room in the new house (it had wallpaper with cars), and the
fumes really got to me, even though it was water-based!

Kristen
331.6Even Better Paints NowCURIE::POLAKOFFMon Sep 17 1990 17:3811
    
    You're not supposed to use oil-based paint--but latex-based is just
    fine.  I painted the whole nursery when I was around 8-9 mos. along and
    I have a fine healthy kid.
    
    They have even better paints out now, I hear.  Paint that is
    environmentally safe (whatever that means).  All the paint companies
    make it (Sherman Williams, California, etc.) and it's supposed to be
    even LESS toxic than good old Latex.  Look into it.
    
    
331.7KAOFS::S_BROOKIt's time for a summertime dreamMon Sep 17 1990 17:4725
    Oil based paints have solvents in them which thins the oils ... these
    solvents are usually volatile petroleum spirits which give all oil
    base paints their characteristic odour.  These solvents enter the blood
    srteam very easily and cause lots of nasty side effects ... some short
    term and some longer term ... in that they affect the operation of
    the cns (central nervous system).  Usual side effects are headaches and
    mild diziness.
    
    Water based paints ... latex, acrylic, emulsion, pva, use water as the
    primary solvent.  BUT there are a number of other things in there which
    may or may not be hazardous.  Some people are sensitive to the latex
    fumes given off ... the latex "cures" as the water from the paint
    evaporates.  There are a number of additives that give water based
    paints their brushing and rolling qualities ... like a thixotropic
    compound which will thin the paint as it is worked and thicken when it
    isn't to help stop drips.  A gelling compound to help stop dripping
    from brushes, and stop runs when using a gloss.  Not to mention a
    SMELL which makes people vent a room after painting to help ensure that
    they don't breathe in all the other vapours!
    
    So, what it boils down to is that some paints and makers are better
    than others and they are all different ... and yopu should take
    precautions whatever you do!
    
    Stuart
331.8NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Sep 18 1990 11:092
FWIW, when they do latex painting here at ZKO, they send out a message that
pregnant women should avoid the area.
331.9some warningTLE::RANDALLliving on another planetWed Sep 19 1990 10:1611
    re: .8
    
    Yeah, and then don't paint on the scheduled day and show up three
    days later unannounced.  
    
    I get sinus reactions from most common perfume/scenting agents --
    the smell they add to latex paint is one of the worst.  If they're
    painting anywhere in the building, I'll get a sinus attack. . .
    sigh.
    
    --bonnie
331.10Another cut at oil/latex issueWINDY::SHARONSharon StarkstonMon Sep 24 1990 14:5712
    Oil based paints cure more quickly than latex.  An oil based paint will
    harden completely in a few days (temperature and ventilation dependent)
    while latex paints "outgas" for months or years.
    
    I left town or stayed at relatives while painting was being done in our
    addition while I was pregnant.  My son and I took a vacation last week
    while we had some additional painting done.
    
    IMHO, there are so many environmental pollutants we are exposed to
    these days that minimizing optional exposures is a very healthy choice.
    
    =ss