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158.1 | EIP success | WRASSE::FRIEDRICHS | Time to AV8! | Thu Jul 19 1990 12:01 | 40 |
| Richard, our very premie son was enrolled in Early Intervention at
Memorial last fall, a couple of months after he got out of the
hospital. He was about 5-6 months old.
One of the major problems with premies is muscle development. So much
of the activities for us has been physical therapy. But we also work
with all kinds of learning activities and he occasionally meets with
the speech therapist. He is only 13 months now, but the speech
therapist concentrates on eating habits (how they eat, not what) and
sounds as these play major roles in later speech development. Richard
is significantly more flexible and stronger now. I don't believe we
would have known how to work him to help him this much.
Another reason that he is in the program is to keep track of him
developmentally. Richard has "agenisis of the corpus collosum"; which
means that the network between the halves of his brain did not develop.
Doctors have found that many people have this problem but are
undiagnoised until later in life. So, there is concern that his
development may be slow so we want to stay on top of it.
Richard, my wife and Janice, our primary care provider at EIP, meet
together once a week. Following the meeting, Janice writes up her
observations and comments and gives us a copy. She also gives
homework assignments for activities that should be continued. We
have decided that once Richard starts walking that the meetings will
probably be cut in half, but we will continue.
They provide an excellent, objective view and proven methods of
improving on whatever problems they have found.
They are not cheap, but John Hancock pays 80%, then a trust fund
absorbs most of the difference.
My wife is much more involved with the going ons at EIP than I am.
If you (or anyone) would like to talk to her, she would be happy to
call you. Please send me your phone number via VAXMAIL...
cheers,
jeff
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158.2 | Who recommends? ... when ... and how ... and | HPSCAD::DJENSEN | | Thu Jul 19 1990 13:24 | 16 |
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I guess I'm confused as to "connecting to EIP". Is this something that
the parent pursues ... or something that a Pedi recommends ...?
Is it pursued when the "potential" for a discipline problem or learning
disability is first recognized?
Sounds like a good and beneficial program keyed towards helping
kids and parents deal with a situation(s) ... but it's not clear to me
as to "when and by whom" the ball starts rolling.
Could someone please explain this to me?
Thanks,
Dottie
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158.3 | | WRASSE::FRIEDRICHS | Time to AV8! | Fri Jul 20 1990 10:17 | 18 |
| We heard about it through Memorial Hospital's Special Care Nursery
when Richard was there. You tend to talk to the nurses quite a bit
and they clued us in.
We then discussed it with our Pedi and he agreed that it might be
beneficial and wrote the "prescription" for it.
It is geared to possible and known learning/physical problems. I
don't believe that they deal with discipline problems as such.
I don't believe there is one process to get it rolling, and according
to the base note, it can be done up till 3 years old. Someone
sees a need and someone else (usually Pedi, I would think) suggests
EIP.
cheers,
jeff
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158.4 | 'early' seems to mean 'before problems actually start' | TLE::RANDALL | living on another planet | Fri Jul 20 1990 11:08 | 24 |
| I noticed that the definition of "early" also varies according to
the program. The Memorial Hospital program appears to be dealing
with very early development, but some EIP's deal specifically with
school-related learning disabilities; then "early" means "before
the child starts having problems in school."
Steven's best friend was treated in one of these programs when she
was about 4. Her preschool teacher noticed that she was a bit
unresponsive and sometimes seemed bewildered by what was going on
around her -- something I had noticed too, but I thought she was
just a shy kid. The EIP evaluation discovered that she couldn't
hear well because she had a chronic ear problem that an ordinary
checkup wouldn't normally detect. She got tubes in her ears and
almost overnight was a new child -- more confident, interested,
reaching out to make friends for the first time, and not letting
Steven bully her around. She also went from being a sulky whiny
child to being a cheerful flexible energetic one.
She also had a few months of speech therapy to help her make up
for what she had missed when her hearing was blocked. They
thought she would probably catch up by the time she started school
even without the therapy, but with it, she caught up much faster.
--bonnie
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158.5 | | ULTRA::ELLIS | David Ellis | Fri Jul 20 1990 13:18 | 47 |
| Our son Ben is 14 months old and has developmental delays. He was born a
month premature, and we were alerted about the risks of developmental
problems for preemies.
When Ben was around 3 months old, we noticed that some developmental
milestones seemed to be coming late, so we sought out the local Early
Intervention program.
In Massachusetts, these programs are community based. The one serving our
community (Framingham) is the Middlesex Child Development Center. The people
we saw were a Licensed Practical Nurse, a physical therapist and a speech
therapist. They found nothing _obviously_ wrong with Ben and decided to
provide "monitoring" service, where the nurse would come into our home and
observe Ben for an hour every few weeks.
At 5 months of age, they did a formal evaluation and pronounced his
development "age-appropriate" across the board. We still noticed that he was
not doing things other infants of that age were doing, like babbling,
rolling, propping himself up on his forearms, but they advised us not to be
concerned. We went to Children's Hospital for a second opinion, and his
evaluation there revealed delays in his gross motor functions. They did not
immediately recommend therapy but suggested regular follow-ups. At 9 months,
given continued lack of progress on Ben's "transitional" movements, we began
occupational therapy with a private therapist.
When Ben started the therapy, he was not rolling over, sitting up or crawling.
The progress Ben has made is truly remarkable, and just this month he has
started walking. The occupational therapist has done wonders for Ben, and I
believe her NDT (NeuroDevelopmental Training) background has been a key to
her success. She is continuing work on his fine motor skills, which are also
delayed.
A follow-up at Children's at one year revealed that Ben has cognitive and
speech delays as well as motor delays. We have recently begun speech
therapy, again with a private therapist with NDT.
The local EIP has taken a back seat while we were bringing Ben around for
outside evaluations and therapy. Now that they have seen the report from
Children's, they are finally getting around to arranging a re-evaluation.
They sponsor the only available regular program in our area for children
under 3 years old with delays. Ben is not eligible until he is between 15
and 18 months, and we will be looking into their program in detail.
My impression of Early Intervention is that they have limited resources in
time, money and level of professional qualifications. But I don't know
of anybody else who provides publicly available programs for infants and
toddlers with developmental delays.
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158.6 | how do they tell? | TLE::RANDALL | living on another planet | Fri Jul 20 1990 13:36 | 20 |
| Hm. I'm a little puzzled by how they can measure this stuff.
At five months David wasn't babbling or rolling, and didn't show
much interest in doing them. He picked them up in the next month
or so after that. He just started crawling this month (9 months
old), but he's been able to pull himself up on the furniture for
weeks. He's doesn't make talk sounds much at all (which pedi
says is common in third children). He's not very good at
approaching a cup, though again the pedi says that many children
are a year old before they can manage a cup.
So how do they tell the difference between a delay that's a
problem and a normal baby who's developing normally but at a
somewhat slower pace than average? Is it that David is making
steady although not precocious progress and a baby with a problem
won't advance like that? Or is it a continuum that at some point
you say, "Although this child is making progress, he's now so far
behind that we'd better give him help to catch up"?
--bonnie
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158.7 | | DATABS::TAYLOR | | Fri Jul 20 1990 14:29 | 37 |
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>I guess I'm confused as to "connecting to EIP". Is this something that
>the parent pursues ... or something that a Pedi recommends ...?
>Is it pursued when the "potential" for a discipline problem or learning
>disability is first recognized?
Dottie,
In my case, my doctor recommended it. What happened was this: I expressed a
concern over Kevin's speech and hearing to the nurse practicioner at MTHP.
Kevin has had many, many ear infections. She offered to have
his speech and hearing evaluated. We had the evaluation done and the speech
pathologist recommended speech therapy twice a week.
When my doctor heard that speech therapy was recommended he laughed. He
said he couldn't imagine what they would teach a 26 month old to do. Said
his own kids didn't talk till they were 3. But as our conversations went on
and he observed Kevin's behaviour, he became concerned that there might be
more of a problem than just a speech delay. He recommended I have Kevin
evaluated at EIP.
>Hm. I'm a little puzzled by how they can measure this stuff.
>So how do they tell the difference between a delay that's a
>problem and a normal baby who's developing normally but at a
>somewhat slower pace than average?
I don't think they would be concerned by only a later (within range)
physical development. I think it takes a lot more than that to be
concerned. My son Danny didn't roll over, sit up or anything till after 9
months, but he caught up fast. There was never any concern there. 9 months
is still considered within normal range.
With Kevin I felt that there were several behaviours he should have
displayed. It wasn't just speech, but overall communication.
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158.8 | Cost? | DATABS::TAYLOR | | Fri Jul 20 1990 14:34 | 6 |
| Just how expensive is EIP? YOu said John Hancock picks up 80%. Is there
a limit?
I think Matthew Thornton picks up 100% but for only 2 months.
G
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158.9 | Call City of Nashua | BRAT::SCHUBERT | | Fri Jul 20 1990 14:46 | 25 |
| .0
My girlfriend just went thru this with her daughter. She has a serious
seizure disorder and is heavily medicated all the time. She was tested
at age three (city of Nashua paid) for physical, speech and
occupational and she 'raised-hell' thru the whole procedure. Any way
here is another alternative that is free to all Nashua Residents and my
girlfriend highly recommends this program:
If you call the City of Nashua, and speak to Gail Baringer (881-4407),
she is the director of special education division of the school
system,. She will set up an appointment for you and your child (must
be 3) and have the evaluation done.
Next step is the program at Broad Street School. Director there is
Cam Moran (881-4406) that is were they do all the physical, speech, and
occupational therpy. My girlfriend signed up her daughter (Megan)
prior to her 3rd birthday, and scheduled an appointment the day after
her birthday to be evaluated and enrolled in Broad Street School. The
schedule is a 4-day progam, Monday thru Thursday (from 11:45 - 2:00 pm)
and the school provides the transportation to and from each day.
This is free for all Nashua residents and I have noticed that Megan,
who couldn't say anything but a screaming sound, in 3 months, she could
say mommy, daddy and about 30 other words!!! I was amazed.
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158.10 | Early Intervention - Go For IT | USEM::SCOTT | | Fri Jul 20 1990 17:28 | 26 |
| My son is an Early Intervention "Graduate". We became involved in
the program and were referred by our pediatrician. We are located
in southern Mass and there was no cost to us. My son has developmental
delays - sensory integration, gross & fine motor and speech problems.
We were in the program from the time he was 14 month old and have
gone on to a Special Needs Preschool. We were given a choice of
working with a center based nursery type of program or home visits.
Work requirements mandated home visits - 1 hour/week. We also
supplemented the EI visits with private therapy sessions at the
Mass Hospital School in Canton for the last 9 months we were in
the program. The benefit for me from participating with EI was the
support system that I was able to develop. Its not easy coming to
grips with the fact that there are "problems" with your child. Not
only did I have the chance to vent on the emotional issues of what
was occurring but they also taught me how to work with the various
problems and we had several gains that might not have happened without
the program. EI also were advocates and very supportive when my
son turned 3 and we had to choose a Preschool. They visited different
Preschools with me and gave input on the various schools. The hardest
part of the EI program was the periodic evaluations they conducted.
My son would never perform on cue so their evaluations didn't reflect
everything he was capable of doing. We always talked about the
evaluations with qualifications because what he did under team
observation and how he performed at home were poles apart! Bottom
line is I think it was beneficial to all of us to participate -
there's really nothing to lose! and a whole to gain!
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158.11 | costs of EIP | WRASSE::FRIEDRICHS | Time to AV8! | Mon Jul 23 1990 10:20 | 17 |
| The weekly charge (1hr/week) that they charge John Hancock/Digital
is $144. This is for a physical therapist. I couldn't find a
recent charge for other services, but I seem to remember that it
is about the same.
With JH, they pay 80% of this, until you have accrued the maximum
out-of-pocket expenses. After that, they pay 100%. In NH, there is
a state grant that picks up where insurance leaves off, so the grant
pays the other 20%.
A new referal is needed from the doctor every 6 mo. This is generally
easy to get, as our pedi is very supportive of proactive measures like
EIP.
cheers,
jeff
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158.12 | EIP can bring a family closer.... | NEURON::REEVES | | Mon Jul 23 1990 13:06 | 6 |
| re: .10
Our son has been in speech and physical therapy since he was 4
weeks old. Your response took the words right out of my mouth. EIP
can be what ever you make of it I think. We decided that it would
be a positive experience and it has been!!!!
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158.13 | Special Ed Teacher | KYOA::MCFADDENJ | | Mon Aug 13 1990 01:28 | 23 |
| Hi Gale,
As a special education teacher I would highly recommend EIP. There
is a great deal of research which has been done that demonstrates
the benefits of early intervention. In most cases, the earlier the
therapy begins, the better.
I used to work at a United Cerebral Palsy Center where classes were
held four days a week. Although I did not work in the EIP rogram
itself, I heard nothing but raves from the parents who were very much
involved (parents attended school with children if at all possible).
The added benefit to EIP in my opinion is the support parents get from
the parents of other children with similar problems. Things always
seem a little easier when you know you are not the only one going
through this(I know that from experience with my daughter and her
medical problems).
Whatever your decision, I wish you the best of luck with your son.
If you would like to talk just leave mail and we will get in touch
with you.
Eileen
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158.14 | UMass Medical has Clinics too. | NRADM::TRIPPL | | Wed Aug 15 1990 15:13 | 31 |
| I'd like to add my two cents worth of experience on this subject.
Since AJ was born about 7 weeks early and had several surgeries before
his first birthday. He was at first followed by his visiting nurse for
both physical and developmental milestone, then it was suggested by
both his nurse and pedi that he be evaluated at Umass Medical Center in
Worcester. They have and excellent Child Development Clinic that
followed him at periodic intervals until just recently. Fortunately
for us they said if we took his current age and deducted his
prematurity (7 weeks or 2 months) he was developing on target for that
particular age brackett. After a year he was developmentally right-on.
Last December they felt his visits with them probably wouln't be needed
any longer, but one more to be sure which was this past April. They
have discharged him from their services saying he was developing
normally. The other problem still remains, borderline ADHD
(hyperactivity and attention deficit) for this they referred me to
their ADHD clinic. This is run under the UMass medical School, dept of
psyciatry. We recently had a wonderful evaluation that took the better
part of 3 hours and recieved an evaluation of aprox 10 pages. I felt
it to be complete and more important unhurried. John Hancock paid 80%
of this, and if you have large or continuous medical bills the hospital
will allow you to request the other 20% be written off.
To the basenoter, I'd be glad to talk more on this to you directly. I
realize that Worcester isn't terribly close, but from all the people
who recomended this clinic, even over the Boston Clinics it would be
worth the time to explore. Not to mention everytime we go for a clinic
apointment the parking lot seems to have more out of state than
in-state cars!
Lyn
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158.15 | MICE | DATABS::TAYLOR | | Fri Dec 14 1990 13:50 | 5 |
| Does anyone know the difference between MICE (I don't know what it
stands for) and Early Intervention? I think MICE is just a New
Hampshire state program. They both sound so similar.
G
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158.16 | Early Intervention services can be free | ISLNDS::AMANN | | Fri Dec 21 1990 10:31 | 14 |
| Federal law (PL94-142) and supporting state laws require schools
to provide early intervention services - including evaluations -
at no cost to parents, for children that are 3 or older.
In Massachusetts the supporting regulations are in Chapter 766.
Chapter 766 provides for all children 3 through 21, no matter what
type and/or degree of disability, if the child can not learn
effectively without some special education or related services -
like speech or physical therapy.
If anyone wants to know how to get these free services let me know.
--dick
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