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Title:Parenting
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35.0. "Waldorf Education" by TLE::FAIMAN (Neil Faiman) Tue Mar 24 1987 10:17

    The following article is from the March 1987 issue of the
    _Pine_Hill_Forum_, where it is printed with this introduction:
    
        This article in three parts was originally printed in 
        _Gathering_, the Washington Waldorf School newsletter, in
        1983 and 1984.  Writer Meg Gorman is presently the coordinator
        of the Washington Waldorf High School.

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    		CONFESSIONS OF A WALDORF-SCHOOL PARENT.  PART I
    				by Meg Gorman
    
    Nine years ago I became a Waldorf-School parent.  At that time
    I was an unlikely character for this role.  A teacher who comes
    from a long line of educators including both of my parents, I
    had come of age in the 1960s.  I believed education should be
    as painless as possible and, while being fun, should still be
    excellent.  My educational philosophy vacillated between A. S.
    Neill's _Summerhill_ and the writings of Maria Montessori.  One
    thing was clear to my husband and me:  we were determined to
    raise our children without "hang-ups."  At the same time, we
    wanted them to be brilliant, artistic, practical and wholesome.
    
    I was an advocate of early learning.  To have a child who reads
    at age four seemed to be a desirable and measurable step on the
    way to budding genius.  Thus, I was dutiful in my efforts at
    helping my child read through the gospel of _Sesame_Street_.
     Even though I found the speed and flashiness of this program
    hard to digest (Mr. Rogers was more my style), I assumed my
    reticence was due to some weakness in my own upbringing, so I
    was vigilant in seeing that my toddler received a proper diet
    of television--educational only, of course.  The fact that these
    programs were on in the late afternoon and early evening--a mother's
    most harried time of day--increased the attractiveness of the
    products of the Children's Television Workshop.
    
    How, then, did we end up at a Waldorf School?  With a fervor
    peculiar to parents of first and only children, I investigated
    preschools as though my daughter's life depended on it.  With
    my new son strapped to my back, I tried to leave no stone unturned
    as I dragged my first child from interview to interview in school
    after school.  One thing was clear to me.  She was immediately
    and most comfortable in a Waldorf classroom.  On our first encounter
    with the Washington Waldorf School, she trotted happily into
    the nursery room and began to "cook" with shells and leaves on
    an imaginary stove.  I was charmed, but I was not convinced.
    
    I continued my search for the perfect school; I was on the verge
    of sending my daughter to a local Montessori school because of
    its early learning program.  (I had been impressed with the way
    the five-year-olds rattled off the state capitols of the U.S.)
     However, my final interview with the head teacher of this school
    drove home one of the main differences between Waldorf and
    Montessori schools as they are conceived in America.
    
    "How do you work with the fantasy life of the small child?" I
    asked in my most professional-sounding voice.
    
    "All our children know the difference between fantasy play and
    reality by the time they're three and a half or four," she answered
    proudly.
    
    "They do?"
    
    "Oh yes, Mrs. Gorman, we work very hard on that."
    
    "You do?"
    
    "Yes, yes; now don't you worry.  They understand their fantasy
    play time, and they don't confuse it with work time."
    
    "They do?" I muttered.  I was beginning to feel disheartened.
     I cast myself back to my childhood and the long hours of play
    with my siblings.  Then, even the voice of our own mother was
    the shriek of a seagull as we sailed our square rigger wing-back
    in hot pursuit of evil pirates. 
    
    "Yes, yes, Mrs. Gorman.  They really know the difference," she
    reassured me.
    
    "But," I protested meekly, "they're only full of this kind of
    fantasy for such a short time."
    
    "Oh, they have plenty of time.  They have a half hour of fantasy
    play every morning."
    
    "Thank you for your time," I said as gently as possible, "but
    I don't think this is the school for us."
    
    Deep in my instinctual mother self I knew that this was the wrong
    approach for my daughter, and I fled back to the Waldorf School.
    
    I knew next to nothing about Waldorf education.  All I knew for
    sure was that the Waldorf School nursery had an atmosphere of
    warmth, beauty, and creativity where our child could flourish.
    She started at the Waldorf School immediately.  Shortly thereafter,
    the difficulties began.
    
    The third week of school, my daughter's teacher took me aside and
    told me very gently that Waldorf education was based on a very
    complex and comprehensive philosophy, and that watching television
    got in the way of the best work of the education. I was skeptical:
    I stuck in a word or two for the virtues of _Sesame_Street_.  "She
    loves it," I insisted.  However, my curiosity concerning the
    philosophy of education was greater than my skepticism. I realized
    that a rarefied form of education for our children might involve
    unusual types of home support and, as an experiment, I was willing
    to give up television. 
    
    Making the decision to turn off the television was the easy part.
    It was not that my child really whined for the television.  It
    was that she wanted to spend her new-found freedom helping me
    with all my household tasks.  Everything took longer.  Vacuuming
    became a struggle for  the want; baking included bread dough
    on the floor and the fronts of the kitchen cabinets as well as
    all over my daughter and me; washing dishes became an ordeal
    of splashing and banging pots and pans.  As five o'clock, when
    the baby was wailing from colic and  I had just started to make
    supper, there was my daughter, full of herself, pulling a chair
    up to the kitchen stove and wielding a wooden spoon with gusto.
    This was going to be harder than it appeared at first.
    
    In desperation, I turned to the nursery-school teacher.
    "Wonderful!" she responded to my tale of woe.  "That's just what
    she needs.  Children thrive on the rhythm of a mother's day."
    
    "Mothers don't," I said bluntly, while measuring her remark on
    my sexist yardstick.
    
    [End of Part I]

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35.1No admission to Pine HillWHYVAX::VANKANANTue Mar 24 1987 12:046
The Pine Hill Waldorf School in Wilton, NH sounds wonderful.  The
    problem is trying to get your child into the school.  I know
    several parents whose children couldn't get in because of the
    incredible waiting list of people applying to kindergarden and
    first grade.  sigh... so close yet so far away!

35.2?CSSE::CLARKYOW!Tue Mar 24 1987 13:164
    Uh, pardon me, but what's a Waldorf School?
    
    Dave (for whom picking a school is still in the far future)

35.3See 18.* in old PARENTINGTLE::FAIMANNeil FaimanTue Mar 24 1987 15:0910
    Notes 18.* in the old PARENTING conference (now MISTY2::PARENTING--
    hit KP7 to add it to your notebook) discussed Waldorf education,
    also known as Rudolf Steiner education.  (The first Waldorf school
    was developed for the children of the employees of the Waldorf-
    Astoria cigarette factory in Germany (Austria?) by Rudolf Steiner.
    The philosophy of education is Steiner's, but the "Waldorf" label
    has stuck.)
    
	-Neil

35.4KP7 didn't workSHRMAX::ROGUSKATue Mar 24 1987 17:079
    Just an aside - I tried hitting the KP7 to add the old file 
    to my notebook and got an error message similar to "parenting
    already in notebook.  Does the name of the old file need to be
    changed to something like ParentingI?
    
    Thanks
    Kathy
    

35.5Tangential NOTES help.TALLIS::SCHMIDTI Use VMS. My Cereal? Raw Bits!Wed Mar 25 1987 15:4512
  The problem isn't that both conferences have the same filename,
  but rather that both conferences are trying to create the same
  name in your notebook.  The command below should do the trick:

    Notes> ADD ENTRY PARENTING_V1 /FILE=<whatever>


  That way, you'll always get the current conference unless you 
  actually type "OPE PARENTING_".

                                   Atlant

35.6Part IITLE::FAIMANNeil FaimanTue Apr 14 1987 13:48310
        The following article is from the April 1987 issue of the
        _Pine_Hill_Forum_.  It continues the three-part article begun in
        note 9.0. 
    
            -Neil Faiman
    
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    		CONFESSIONS OF A WALDORF-SCHOOL PARENT.  PART II
    				by Meg Gorman
    
        Faced with the beautiful, yet strange and unusual, world of
        Waldorf education, I decided that my only recourse was to steep
        myself in this way of teaching and struggle with its difficult
        questions as they came up.  The more I learned, the more I became
        aware that there was no nutshell--short of a magical one--which
        could contain this philosophy of education.  I took advantage of
        the lectures at the school and the books in the office; however,
        the more I read, thought, and attended lectures, the more confused
        I became. 

        Early in my career as a Waldorf parent, I was faced with a
        difficulty inherent in all Waldorf schools:  the problem of
        purity. From my own experience I agreed with Waldorf education
        that children are better off with simple, useful toys because
        these playthings stimulate the children's imaginations.  However,
        though I have a natural bent towards things natural, I feared a
        kind of unnatural elitism of the natural. That is, if cute plastic
        toys are unhealthy for small children, does that fact place a
        value judgment on children and families who are heavy users of the
        stuff? Furthermore, my children possessed these ungodly items and
        enjoyed them.  Again I got my what-is-a-mother-to-do feeling.  How
        could I carry this natural simplicity into my home and
        neighborhood of Mattel, Fisher-Price and Coleco? 

        About this time I had the good fortune to hear a lecture at our
        Waldorf school by the Viennese expert in Waldorf pre-school
        education, Bronja Zahlingen.  Her lecture concerned the importance
        of simple, natural toys for small children.  At the end of the
        lecture, a young mother stood up and asked what she should do
        about her three-year-old daughter.  The child had an ugly rubber
        baby doll to which she was deeply devoted and completely attached.
        With tears in her eyes and guilt all over her face, this mother
        asked if she should take the doll away from the child.  Mrs.
        Zahlingen replied, "By all means, let her keep her baby.  She has
        made this doll beautiful and thus has redeemed it with her love."
        I returned home that night with an immense sense of relief.  I did
        not take Mrs. Zahlingen's answer as a carte-blanche endorsement of
        plastic toys, but I knew that, from now on, polyester and plastic
        would live in peace beside wool and wood at our house. 

        At a previous lecture, this time by John Gardner of the Garden
        City Waldorf Teacher Training Institute, I was presented with a
        different problem:  the best way to answer the "whys" of small
        children.  Both my husband and I had made great efforts to explain
        the world to our children in a scientific way.  This was not so
        much become this came naturally (the endless "whys" had become
        something of a burden to us), but because we thought that this was
        the most honest and educational way to explain things to our
        children.  For example, before Waldorf, if the children had asked
        why a tree was so big, we would have told them how trees age and
        lay down xylem rings every year.  The evening that I heard Mr.
        Gardner speak, he lectured on the way small children learn.  He
        felt it was useless and even damaging to use our phenomenological
        and rational approach in answering the questions of children under
        seven.  As an example, he pointed to the flowers on the lecture
        stage.  "If a small child asks you, 'Why are the flowers so
        yellow?', you should not give a description of plant pigmentation.
        You should say instead, 'They certainly are yellow, aren't they?'
        Then," Mr. Gardner told us, "the child will give you a gift from
        his own perception of the world, and you will be better able to
        understand one another."  I didn't buy this one bit, and I went
        away from the lecture with what was becoming a familiar mixture of
        curiosity and skepticism about the Waldorf way of doing things. 

        However, a few days later, I had a chance to try out Mr. Gardner's
        theory.  On a lovely spring day, as I walked my four-year-old
        daughter in the park, she looked up at me and asked, "Mommy, why
        is the sky so blue?" Before hearing Mr. Gardner's lecture, I would
        have come up with some explanation of outer space and the earth's
        atmosphere.  Absolutely gleeful at this opportunity to prove Mr.
        Gardner wrong, I answered innocently, "It certainly is blue, isn't
        it?" 

        There was a pregnant pause.  Finally, she replied, "Mommy, I know
        why the sky is so blue.  It's because of your blue eyes."  It was
        a sacred moment for both of us.  My poetic heart beat wildly, and
        I looked with awe at this vast unknown who was my daughter.  I
        began to have a new sense of the small child's world.  Perhaps Mr.
        Gardner was right.  I certainly had received a gift. 

        Another gift this education has bestowed upon me is a prickly one,
        and it continues, even now, to behave like a benevolent porcupine
        in my life. It has to do with learning through imitation.  The
        fact that children learn primarily through imitation was obvious
        to me as a teacher and mother.  This theory, for me, was one of
        the soundest aspects of Waldorf education.  But there was a catch.
        If the child learns primarily through imitation, then he must have
        parents and teachers worthy of emulation. Ouch!  This gave me the
        nervous pip.  Like the issues of rhythm in the day and television
        viewing, I was brought up hard against my flawed self. I knew that
        my efforts to bring more rhythm into my children's lives, and the
        strict limitation of the television, had paid off for my children.
        I lived gratefully with this evidence on a daily basis, but this
        business of being worth of emulation was really too much. 

        I was willing to do all sorts of things, read all kinds of books,
        make all sorts of trips and sacrifices, and buy all all kinds of
        materials to help my children be the best they could be.  But to
        make myself a good role model for them was another matter
        entirely.  This was a tall order, one which would require vigorous
        inner housekeeping for the rest of my life as a mother or, more
        simply put, the rest of my natural life. 

        I resented this piece of information, although I think I had known
        and avoided it inside for a long time.  Somehow, I guess I had
        thought that the school could make up for my faulty life, and that
        I could go on enjoying my bad habits.  This Waldorf message was
        really asking me to give up my adolescence.  I didn't know if I
        was ready.  Yet I had two children and, by this time, a third one
        in the hatch.  I had to face up, and it was not easy.  I wrote in
        my journal about this time, "Motherhood is some career.  It never
        ends.  Not even death can change maternity.  It goes on and on,
        and its deeds are intractable." 

        Although the reality of growing up was perfectly obvious to the
        rest of the world, I resigned myself to this fact as though I had
        made a new discovery.  I set out on a self-improvement course
        which I hoped would make me a creature worthy of emulation.  I
        have not arrived, nor have I come close.  I suppose I never will.
        I only solve one problem when some new defect, previously
        unrecognized, rears its fierce head.  I take comfort from the
        words of Rudolf Steiner [founder of Waldorf education - NF] that
        children are much benefited by observing an adult's striving to
        know and overcome his weaknesses even if that adult falls far
        short of perfection. 

        In the meantime, while I was on my high horse of self-improvement,
        my son had entered nursery school and my daughter had begun first
        grade.  Here I ran smack into a wall.  It was the biggest hurdle I
        had yet faced in Waldorf education:  the question of late reading. 

        Now, I am an English teacher and, as such, I have a large stake in
        reading.  Although, by my generation's standards, I read late at
        age eight, I find reading a joy, and it brings me some of my best
        moments. Because I find this such a satisfying experience, I am
        enthusiastic about sharing it with others, the sooner the better.
        I used to think, if I had read at age three, I could have had so
        much more fun and learned so much more.  Early reading must be
        good.  Just think of what a head start I would have had on life.
        Besides, there is such a wealth of literature out there for
        children.  Why not get into it as soon as possible?  Then there
        were those neighborhood mothers who bragged about their children's
        genius because their kids could read early.  Why not my kids too? 

        Waldorf pedagogy, on the other hand, feels that reading is
        generally unhealthy for children under seven.  In fact, it says,
        children should not begin to read until their baby teeth start to
        fall out.  This seemed plain silly to me.  I felt certain that the
        school would see my point of view when I discussed it with some of
        the teachers. 

        At first, I tried to convince the school that their approach to
        reading was archaic.  Surely they could be wrong about something,
        and this must be it.  When I first met my daughter's class
        teacher, he encouraged his class parents to come to him and
        discuss any concerns we might have about the education our
        children would be getting.  I often wonder if he ever regrets that
        remark where I am concerned.  At first, I was a bit shy; but I
        swiftly overcame my reticence as my sense of indignation rose on
        the issue of reading.  I took our class teacher at this word, and
        I peppered him with questions about reading.  He remained firm. 

        Early reading, he told me, got in the way of healthy physiological
        development.  He saw his task in the early grades as building up
        the child's physical strength, powers of observation, life of
        imagination and sense of security.  Then, he told me, the academic
        education which was to follow would find rich soil in which to
        grow, with the end result that the young person could make
        educated decisions and think with few prejudices as an adult.  He
        explained that the grade-school child is still incarnating, that
        is, coming down from another world.  Waldorf education tries to
        remove as many obstacles as possible for the child so that she can
        grow into the person she needs to be.  This means, loosely
        translated, not the self I had in mind for my child, but some
        mysterious unknown self which my child carried within her.  I
        squirmed.  I had heard this sort of thing before from the nursery
        school teacher and from various lectures.  This kind of
        explanation made me, an orthodox Christian, very nervous.
        Besides, it just didn't seem rational.  I tried to ignore these
        "spiritual" aspects of Waldorf education as the kooky stuff that
        some of the teachers believed.  It was difficult because these
        sorts of explanations came up over and over again.  It always
        seemed that, just as I was beginning to get a handle on Waldorf
        education, something impossible appeared.  The question of the
        incarnating soul was eerie for me.  I just didn't get its
        connection to late reading.  So, I swept my daughter's teacher's
        remarks under my I'm-not-ready-for-this carpet which was already
        bulging with Waldorf-related humps and bumps. 

        First, I had to get the issue of reading squared away.  In
        retrospect, now that my daughter reads well, the process which
        follows seems ridiculous.  At the time, it was urgent, and I spent
        many hours reading, talking, and thinking about it. 

        I understood that part of the reason reading was delayed at
        Waldorf schools had to do with the development of memory.  If one
        can read and write something, one need not remember the
        information.  The ancient story-tellers of every culture disappear
        as a civilization becomes more literate.  Was this progress?  I
        didn't know.  The children at Waldorf schools memorize a great
        deal.  Does this improve their memories?  My children's music
        teachers have commented on how rapidly our children memorize
        music.  Is this Waldorf at work?  I don't know for sure, but I do
        know that my children's memories are far better than my memory was
        at their ages. 

        And what about knitting, crocheting and other handwork projects of
        these early years?  These activities certainly improve hand-eye
        coordination which, in turn, helps reading, but couldn't the
        students read a little in between? There seemed to be so much
        artistic work in these early years that there was no time for
        reading.  "Self-discipline and will power are best learned through
        artistic work," came the answer from my daughter's class teacher.
        I know now that this is true.  Both of my older children seem to
        be quite responsible and self-disciplined.  I have had to struggle
        mightily for self-discipline as an adult, so I now see this as one
        of the major gifts of Waldorf education. 

        Still, back then, I wasn't convinced.  I was plagued with
        questions about reading and Waldorf education in general.  I still
        swept the difficult questions on things spiritual under my carpet
        of procrastination, but I had plenty of other things which kept me
        awake at night.  I had to admit that I admired the teachers whom I
        knew at the school.  They actually seemed worthy of emulation.
        Yet, could one teacher give a child what he or she needed over
        eight years?  [In a Waldorf school, a class stays with the same
        "class teacher" from first through eighth grade, although there
        are also special lesson teachers, especially in the later years,
        where they teach subjects such as chemistry and physics. - NF]
        And what about reading, writing, and arithmetic?  Should I keep my
        children at the Waldorf school for its warm, humanistic approach
        and have them tutored in academics on the side?  Should I continue
        to press my daughter's teacher in the hopes that he would come
        around on the issue of reading?  Was it already too late?  At age
        four, my daughter had started to read and had not been encouraged.
        Now, at age six, she had lost interest.  I went out and looked at
        other schools--something which has become an annual ritual for
        me.  I recommend it.  It always makes me realize how special our
        school really is. 

        Each time I came back to Waldorf because I sensed a depth and
        moral quality at our school that I seldom found elsewhere.  Each
        year I made a new act of faith and decided to go one more round
        with Waldorf education. 

        I also decided to do my best to cooperate with the requests of
        Waldorf education.  I left the television off, I did not have my
        children tutored (nor did I tutor them myself), and I continued to
        struggle for more rhythm in my life.  In the dark of the night, I
        prayed that I had made the right decision. 

        By day, in my own haphazard way, I continued to research the
        question of late reading.  I read around the subject and found, to
        my surprise, that many educators supported the concept of late
        reading, among them Bruno Bettelheim, David Elkind, Joseph C.
        Pearce and Jean Piaget.  Still, I wasn't sure.  I comforted myself
        by making lists of successful people who read late.  Literary
        people were well represented.  My list included Margaret Mead,
        Einstein, Churchill, Balzac, Lord Mountbatten, Mark Twain, George
        Washington Carver, and the great Irish writer William Butler
        Yeats, who was finally beaten into learning to read after the age
        of nine. 

        Finally, at the end of third grade, my daughter began to read
        well.  What she read amazed me.  Her standards were high and still
        are.  She plowed through the major children's classics until, at
        the end of sixth grade, she amazed me by beginning her summer
        reading with the two fat volumes of the _Complete_Sherlock_
        _Holmes_.  All for fun!  The entire business of late reading was
        no longer an issue for me at all.  In fact, I now find it quite
        inconsequential. 

        Recently, I ran across a quotation from another late reader, the
        wonderful English writer Sylvia Townsend Warner.  It comes from
        her recently published collected essays, _Scenes_of_Childhood_.
        She writes about her father: 

            He doubted--and very naturally, I'm sure, being a school
            master--the benefit of learning to read.  From the moment a
            child discovers that information can be got out of books, he
            averred, it desists from exercising its faculties of
            observation, memory, and thinking itself. So long after my
            contemporaries had become literate, I was left to be
            observant, retentive, and rational. 

        Thank God, I say.  Would that we all had these qualities to the
        degree that Ms. Warner has them.  Her father's points are well
        taken and echo more reasons why late reading is useful. 

        With the reading issue finally at rest, I tried to relax about
        Waldorf education.  However, the lumpy material under my carpet
        had piled up to such a degree that I could no longer ignore it.
        Like it or not, it was time to take a closer look.  With
        trepidation, I lifted the corner of my carpet to peek at the
        unpronounceable philosophy behind Waldorf education. 

    [End of Part I]


35.7Waldorf School Open HouseYODA::BARANSKI1&#039;s &amp; 0&#039;s, what could be simpler?!Sun Jun 28 1987 15:5512
From The Concord Journal:

OPEN HOUSEs are being held for The Waldorf School's Nursery and Kindergarten
program in Concord.  Parents interested in enrollment in September 1987 are
invited Monday evenings at 8 pm to meet with other parents, friends and teachers
of the school.

Waldorf School offers a creative, low stress education for children ages 3 1/2
to 5 1/2.  For information call 371-1498 or 897-6142.

Jim.

35.8More, please !SHIRE::BIZETue Jul 28 1987 06:1015
    I am quite new to this notesfile, but what has been said here about
    Waldorf school is quite fascinating. I will try when I have time
    to get to the old notesfile. However, in the meantime, does anybody
    know:
    
    1) Is there a book on the Waldorf approach to education ?
       If so, please let me have any details (title, author, editor,
       etc.)
    
    2) If you find the time, would you be willing to type in the remaining
       article of this series? I know its a long job, but I have found
       it fascinating reading.
    
    Thanks.    Joana

35.9Part IIITLE::FAIMANNeil FaimanTue Sep 15 1987 13:38187
        The following article is from the May 1987 issue of the
        _Pine_Hill_Forum_.  It concludes the three-part article
    	begun in notes 9.0. and 9.6 
    
            -Neil Faiman
    
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    		CONFESSIONS OF A WALDORF-SCHOOL PARENT.  PART III
    				by Meg Gorman
            
        I had hung around Waldorf education long enough by this time to
        know that the amorphous items under my rug of procrastination
        concerning Waldorf education were, in some way, connected to the
        word "anthroposophy".  Webster's _Second_International_Dictionary_
        defines anthroposophy as "1. Knowledge of the nature of man;
        hence, human wisdom.  2.  A spiritualistic and mystical
        doctrine, derived mainly from the philosophy of Rudolf Steiner
        (1861--1925)."  The dictionary definition, though intriguing,
        was not very informative. However, it was clear that the key to
        understanding the philosophy behind Waldorf education lay in
        investigating the work of this man, Rudolf Steiner. 

        Up to this point I had strenuously avoided Rudolf Steiner.  Long
        before I had become interested in Waldorf education, I had read
        some lectures and a book by Steiner which were supposed to help
        me with my gardening. These turned out to be rather lengthy
        treatises which described the birth of the planets and the
        evolution of the cosmos.  I must confess I didn't understand
        them at all, nor could I figure out how all this information was
        supposed to improve the quality of my herbs and vegetables.
        Furthermore, as a stylist, Rudolf Steiner is far from breezy,
        and his long sentences and unusual terminology were difficult
        for me to grasp.  I chalked these defects up to poor English
        translations from Steiner's native German, and I stuck with
        Steiner's interpreters in English rather than trying to struggle
        through the works of Steiner.

	In fact, until my oldest child was in the first grade, I didn't
	have much to do with Rudolf Steiner at all.  I simply avoided
	him.  Early in my days at our Waldorf school, someone had told
	me, and correctly so, that Steiner's educational philosophy is
	never actually taught in the Waldorf classrooms because Steiner
	did not believe in prejudicing the thinking of children with
	preset ideas about man or the world.  In this way, the child
	could discover the world on his own terms.  This gave me a sense
	of relief to some degree.  Besides, my oldest child was too
	young to understand such things anyway.  I had also been told
	that Waldorf education had been founded on Steiner's
	"indications," which left me free to believe that the wonderful
	and dedicated teachers at our school didn't really espouse
	Rudolf Steiner's anthroposophy.

	But, first grade was a different and serious matter.  I was
	supposed to entrust my child to a teacher who would follow her
	progress through the eight years of grade school, and who might
	not teach her to read until third grade.  The more I talked with
	my children's teachers and the more I read about Waldorf
	education throughout that year, the more I came to realize that
	I would have to come to grips with Rudolf Steiner and his
	anthroposophy.  Let me say from the outset that, although I have
	now come to grips, I have not yet come to a resolution.  There
	were days in the beginning of my study of Rudolf Steiner's work
	when I felt as though I were Br'er Rabbit grappling with the tar
	baby.  But, there were other days, which are most frequent now,
	when I felt as though I had discovered a magnificent dance which
	includes the entire universe.

	Nevertheless, in the beginning, I was afraid.  I feared that
	Steiner's world view would shake the ground under the feet of my
	own world view and, in so doing, would present me with
	irreconcilable differences between Steiner and me which would
	make me uncertain about Waldorf education.  I didn't want to
	face up to that possibility at all.  My fears were well founded.
	I am still reeling from the earthquake, but I have found the
	education more firmly planted than any I have ever encountered.

	Midway through my daughter's first-grade year, I saw an
	announcement in the school bulletin welcoming interested parents
	to join a Rudolf Steiner study group with an eye to starting a
	high school at some future time.  I was interested.  Not only
	was I a secondary school teacher and, therefore, very curious
	about the way Waldorf education worked in the upper school, but,
	as a dutiful mother, I wanted to be sure that any Waldorf high
	school would be well established before my daughter would be
	ready for it.  I certainly did not fancy my child as a high
	school pioneer.  Besides, as far as the study group was
	concerned, there seemed to be safety in numbers.  I picked up
	the telephone and called the school to ask if I might be
	included in this group.  The following week my husband and I
	began to attend the study group.  It was the beginning of a
	profound change in my life.

	In retrospect, it seems to me that I began to understand the
	first book I read by Steiner only after I had finished the third
	book by him.  Steiner's thinking is amazingly diversified, and
	yet very much one piece.  As I struggled along with his ideas in
	the study group, I was aware that one of the reasons he is so
	difficult to grasp has to do with the vastness of the material
	he is presenting.  The man has something to say about just about
	everything.  It's a bit like trying to read the entire history
	of Western civilization from the beginning of the universe
	straight through to the present, without stopping and with an
	extensive new vocabulary.  Besides, Steiner's ideas turned my
	ideas upside down.  There seemed to be no area of my life---my
	thinking, my religion, my eating habits, my parenting, my
	teaching, my gardening---which Steiner did not force me to
	re-asses or reconsider.  His ideas popped up everywhere, like
	mushrooms and, like them, I found it difficult to tell which
	were and were not healthy for me.  The study group was lively
	and honest, and there were no bars to questions of any kind.
	For this, I am thankful.  However, the process was not a lark.
	At first, it was quite painful.

	I found myself examining every aspect of my life.  "Why," I
	would then ask myself, "should I put myself through this
	tortuous self-examination when I really am not sure that this
	man Steiner knows what he is talking about?  Because," I would
	answer myself, "you have entrusted your most precious gifts, your
	children, to the hands of people who share Rudolf Steiner's
	ideas."	 I simply had to understand what I was doing to or for
	my children.  So much of what I saw in the classrooms made good
	sense to me, yet so much of Rudolf Steiner was impossibly
	difficult for me.

	Yet, the more I pushed and struggled with this anthroposophy,
	the more I was drawn to it.  A part of me was determined that
	anyone who wrote so circuitously and drew his ideas from such
	unusual realms had to be wrong.  But, the more I worked with
	Steiner's ideas, the more they made sense, especially in the
	practical parts of my life.

	My hours as a stay-at-home mother splashing in her kitchen sink
	were enhanced by questions that came out of our weekly
	encounters in the study group.  I wondered about how man thinks,
	the nature of memory, the tasks of Christianity in our time, the
	nature of society, the spiritual basis of my compost heap, how
	man learns, the evolution of the earth, and the very nature of
	man.  During these long days of mothering and housework, I began
	to find aspects of Rudolf Steiner's work which I could
	incorporate into my life.  Following the repeated suggestions in
	his writings and his lectures, I took Steiner's ideas into my
	daily life and I experimented with them.  I tested them against
	the world I knew.  Even though I did not agree with Steiner on
	many fronts, I found that his practical suggestions were almost
	always helpful in my daily life.

	It was a short jump from here to one of the most obnoxious and
	embarrassing periods of my life which, for want of a better term,
	I shall call the "pure stage."  After about three years of
	weekly study group meetings, I found that Steiner's ideas began
	to ring true for me, and I decided that his insights must, in
	consequence, be useful to everyone I encountered.  Steiner was
	not (contrary to what is sometimes heard) a rigid and dogmatic
	man.  However, there is something in human nature which wants to
	take the best part of a good thing and get moralistic about it.
	The dogmatism of my early childhood took hold of me and, as an
	enthusiastic, budding convert, I was off and running.

	With the pure stage behind me (I hope), I no longer recommend
	the study of anthroposophy to everyone.  It is not for everyone,
	nor should it be.  It is certainly not a panacea for one's ills,
	a kind of aspirin for headaches.  I actually think it has given
	me far more headaches than it has relieved.  But, for an
	in-depth adventure, it cannot be beaten.  Like a character in a
	fairy tale, one weaves one's way through a maze of trials and
	enlightenments.  One minute, one is in the stench-filled belly
	of one's dragon-self, and the next, one is on a mountain top.
	The way out of the dragon's belly is rarely exhilarating, but
	the struggle can be magnificent---in retrospect.  From each new
	peak one climbs afterwards, one can see a higher and more
	challenging mountain, accompanied by a new set of dragons, which
	one could not see before.

	For me, the study of Rudolf Steiner's work has been and still is
	the most exciting, eccentric, fulfilling, frustrating, and
	common-sensible journey I have ever taken.  I am still a long
	way off from a knowledge of man or human wisdom.  Yet, I feel
	that I can approach these things from afar because of my
	involvement with Rudolf Steiner and these curious characters
	called anthroposophists.

	It's a long, arduous journey, no question about it, and I have
	only just begun.  But the expedition has never been dull, and it
	promises to be endlessly inspiring.  For this I will always be
	grateful.

35.10Where's the old PARENTING fileUTES01::VANDERNIETMart van der Niet | TXL HollandWed Sep 16 1987 05:453
    Sorry but MISTY2::NOTES$LIBRARY: doen't know the old parenting
    conference. So where is it ??

35.11BUSY::KLEINBERGERMAXCIMize your effortsWed Sep 16 1987 16:245
    See 207.3  The old file is now of VADER...
    
    Gale
    (co-moderator)

35.12Waldorf physical educationMOIRA::FAIMANOntology Recapitulates PhilologyWed Apr 13 1988 18:2168
    Having typed this in for another conference, I thought that I would
    post it here, too.  This is a portion of an article by Dorothea
    Altgelt, the physical education teacher at the Pine Hill Waldorf
    School in Wilton, NH, which is a report on a physical education
    conference for North American Waldorf teachers.  The article is
    reprinted from the _Pine_Hill_Forum_. 

    	-Neil

    ========================================================================
    
    As teachers, we discussed the physical education curriculum in
    connection with the changing relationship to space of the incarnating
    child.  In an evening session with Hawthorne Valley School parents we
    shared some vivid pictures of the typical movements of the growing
    child, beginning with the young baby, who lives in the periphery.  Its
    first exploration of the space around it is motivated by an interest
    in something in its environment:  perhaps the oil bottle on the
    changing table, which it sees and tries to touch.  We looked at the
    preschooler, who is almost always running, a little ahead of himself,
    to explore what is around him.  In the early grades, the children live
    into the world around them, motivated by their interest in the world
    outside themselves.  This interest gives us our approach for the
    physical education program.  We bring fantasy to the movements, moving
    to rhymes, or we play games, using a picture or an image to lead into
    the different movements.  We let the children imitate us, without
    correcting them (as we would a teenager).  As the children grow older,
    we challenge them more and more, but the main tool is imagination.

    An example of a pictorial rhyme that takes third or fourth graders
    through a series of movements about lumberjacks was translated--or
    actually newly cast into English--for us by Jaimen during the
    conference:

	... To the woods, away, away,
	To start our work at break of day.

	Swing your axe, high and low,
	Cut by cut, blow by blow,
	Not too quick, not too slow,
	One more chop ... down it gooooes!

	Flashing teeth of sharpest steel
	Eat their way with burning zeal;
	To and fro the saw must chew
	Till the log is sawn clean through...

    And finally:

	To our homes we're on our way,
	Work well done at end of day!

    By the fifth grade, the children are very coordinated and can do almost
    anything.  They are like young Greeks, and we practice the five Greek
    exercises:  running, jumping, wrestling, and throwing the javelin and
    the discus.  As they approach puberty, they become more and more clumsy
    and heavy and are much more conscious of their movements.  We challenge
    their muscular capacities and abilities to the utmost.  (We challenge
    them, for example, through the difficulty of juggling.)  Now we teach
    them conscious skills and techniques.

    As students move on into the high school, it becomes important in our
    physical education classes to give them a sense for the freedom of the
    human being.  Learning to throw the javelin precisely, or the discus so
    that it flies beautifully and far, working on skills in basketball,
    baseball, volleyball, or fencing -- these are some of the activities
    appropriate for high school students. ...

35.15Book list required45830::GILLAFri Apr 28 1989 08:439
    Reading through all this I have become rather interested in Waldorf
    education. However, since I am based in Reading, UK, I can't attend
    all these talks etc.
    
    Can anyone out there recommend some books where I could read up
    on this further?
    
    Gilla Evans

35.17Answers to some questions about Waldorf schoolsMOIRA::FAIMANlight upon the figured leafThu Oct 19 1989 16:10108
I've received occasional questions by mail about Waldorf education.  
The person who sent the following questions thought that my response 
was informative enough that it might be worth adding here.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'll do my best to answer your questions.  Please remember that I'm very 
enthusiastic about Waldorf education, so I can't really be objective; also that 
I can only talk about my experiences with Pine Hill, and I'm sure that other
schools are  different in many ways.  Your best way of learning about a school 
would be  to give them a call, have them send you some info, and start dropping
in to their open houses, Christmas fairs, etc.  Many of us didn't just say one 
day, "That sound's like a neat school":  rather, we became familiar with it 
over the years, until it just became inevitable that that was where our 
children would go to school.

> How young can/should kids start the Waldorf program? 

Most schools start the formal program with kindergarten.  At Pine Hill, about 
half of the children do two years of kindergarten, so it blurs down into the 
later nursery school years.  

Elspeth had one year of 3-day nursery school in Nashua, then attended Pine Hill 
kindergarten for two years before entering first grade.

Generally, the school is opposed to rushing children into school.  At Pine Hill, 
the current policy is that children must be six by the April *before* they enter 
first grade.

Traditionally, the Waldorf approach to education has gone along with the feeling 
that the best place for small children is in their home, and that they really 
don't belong in school until they're seven.  However, that isn't the way the 
modern world operates; and with many children in daycare anyway, I think that 
most Waldorf schools now see some real benefit in getting children into the 
Waldorf setting earlier.  

This doesn't mean starting the formal education earlier, though.  A Waldorf 
kindergarten is a very gentle, low-key place -- as much an idealized home 
environment as a preparation for grade school.

Another aspect of this is that aside from enrollment in the school itself, 
Waldorf education has a lot of insights about early childhood that you may be 
able to pick up and apply to your own home life as you become acquainted with 
your local Waldorf school.

> Do parents get some say-so in how the school operates?

Yes and no.  This is a perennial issue at Pine Hill, and probably at other 
Waldorf schools as well.

It is a fundamental principle of Waldorf education that the "pedagogy" -- the 
education -- is the exclusive domain of the individual teacher in his or her 
classroom and, at a higher level, of the entire faculty.  As a parent, you 
decide that you believe in the education, and then you put your trust in your 
child's teacher.

This does not mean that we as parents have no input into what happens in the 
classroom.  Elspeth's class teacher has always been very happy to hear our 
comments and suggestions, and has always been responsive to them.  But 
ultimately, what happens in her classroom is her responsibility.

Our school does have a Board of Trustees, on which some of the members happen to 
be parents.  The Board is responsible for budget setting, buildings, tuitions, 
etc., but the faculty itself has exclusive authority over all issues of hiring 
(and, heaven forbid, firing), salaries, admissions, and curriculum.

I know that there is substantial difference among schools in the precise 
relations between the various bodies that support and control the school; but 
as I understand it, any school in which the teachers do not have the ultimate 
educational authority would not be a Waldorf school.

But this does not mean that the school is not *responsive to* (as opposed to 
"controlled by") the parents.  Frankly, Pine Hill has had some problems in that 
area -- especially when an issue gets classified as "educational" because it 
happens to have something to do with the classroom -- but the faculty seems to 
be honestly committed to giving parents more of a voice in the school, and then 
listening to it more attentively.

> Do you feel that the Waldorf education is "real-world-oriented" enough? (By
> this, I do NOT mean "does Waldorf prepare them to go out and make big bucks". 
> I mean -- and I'm not sure how to phrase this without sounding judgemental--
> does it help kids deal with a world where people are often not kind?) 

That is a very hard question, because I'm not sure what the right way is of 
preparing children for that world.  The best that I can do with it is to suggest 
that a Waldorf school helps to prepare children for that world not by 
"toughening" them against it, or giving them emotional callouses, but by trying 
to help them grow into people who will have the inner strength to meet the world 
and face its flaws without being broken by them.  

I also have a hard time phrasing that without sounding judgmental.  Personally, 
I feel that the best way to introduce children to the real world is very gently 
and very gradually -- but I could be wrong.  I'm sure that Elspeth, at eight, 
would not be prepared to cope with many aspects of the real world; but I also 
believe that by the time she has to, she will be ready, and that she will be a 
healthier person for the way she will have gotten there.

-----

Well, that's a lot of words.  I hope that I've approached some of the things 
that you wanted to know about.  If you'd like me to amplify on any of this, or 
to answer any other questions, please feel free to ask.  As you can no doubt 
tell, I'm rather enthusiastic about it all...

Regards,

	-Neil

35.18Summer at Pine HillMOIRA::FAIMANlight upon the figured leafWed May 09 1990 00:0020
                          Summer at Pine Hill
    
    The Pine Hill Summer Program is offering a variety of outdoor summer
    activities for children entering grades 1 through 4.  Drawing,
    games, songs, crafts, swimming, and hiking on over 40 acres of rural
    land promise a summer of enriching and creative experiences for
    every child.  All children are welcome; many are coming who do not
    attend Pine Hill.  Enrollment will be limited to 40 children in each
    of our weekly sessions.  Each session is 5 days from 9:00 to 3:00.
    
    	Week 1:  July 9  - July 13
    	Week 2:  July 16 - July 20
    	Week 3:  July 23 - July 27
    	Week 4:  July 30 - August 3
    
    The enrollment fee is $90 per weekly session.  A child may attend
    one or more sessions.  Some scholarships are available.
    
    Call the Pine Hill office, (603)654-6003 for more information.

35.19Some More Questions! :-)YUPPY::GABRIELJFri Jun 15 1990 08:1943
    
    Hello there,
    
    I am VERY interested to find out whether these schools operate in
    England at all.  I have a boy who is 3 next month and would like
    to have a look at one of these schools myself.
    
    The other thing is that I will be moving to Florida by the end of
    this year and would like to know if there are any schools in the
    Orlando area that I could visit when I arrive.
    
    What about the cost of these schools - how much do they charge per
    term?  Also they seem very light on the actual educational side
    of things do the children actually LEARN anything?  Could someone
    leave the school and go to college with the same footing on the
    reading and writing/math side of the education, not to mention the
    history, geography etc.  You know what I mean I'm sure:-)  Has anyone
    ever met a child who has had this type of education *all* the way
    through their childhood to college?
    
    I gather they do take children right the way through their educational
    years.
    
    It does sound like the type of school I would want to send my kids
    to. 
    
    I remember a school that I went to for a while when I was small
    and I particularly loved the movement and mime, rounders etc. PE 
    classes and although I went to schools after that one the Physical 
    Ed. wasn't the same  (they were very hard not in the sense that I 
    couldn't do them, but rough is the word I think) its hard to explain.  
    Anyway, I'll never forget that school and it's amazing how much (when 
    I think about it) I enjoyed it there, although it wasn't a Waldorf 
    school it must have had some of the aspects probably unknowingly.
                        
    If someone could answer my questions I would be obliged.  I think
    it's great.
    
    Juanita 
    ::-)
    
    

35.20Good EDUCATIONYUPPY::GABRIELJFri Jun 15 1990 09:2011
    
    Ok, after reading again the "Confessions" I now realise that the
    education side doesn't seem to be a problem.  So I now know that
    they do actually learn and Meg Gorman seems to have very literate
    children.
    
    So the other questions still remain.
    
    Ta...
    Juanita

35.22Pine Hill Waldorf schoolFROSTY::SKONETSKIWed Apr 08 1992 17:4312
We are thinking of sending our daughter to the Pine Hill Waldof school in
Wilton NH.

My daughter is only 3 but we are checking our options early.

If you have any experience with this school or any other Waldorf school
please let me know your feelings.

Maybe she can learn to spell in spite of me

sue