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Conference moira::parenting

Title:Parenting
Notice:Previous PARENTING version at MOIRA::PARENTING_V3
Moderator:GEMEVN::FAIMANY
Created:Thu Apr 09 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1292
Total number of notes:34837

1275.0. "Needed-pre-made bottles" by MIPSBX::"[email protected]@exchange" (gael dussault) Mon Apr 14 1997 10:54

In about 4 weeks I will be leaving for China to pick up my 10 month
old daugher. We were encouraged to bring (in addition to powdered
soy-based forumla and bottles) 6 pre-made soy-based bottles (the
kind they give away to new mothers in the hospitals. This - just
in case we are in a bus someplace and need a bottle or two in
our backpack. I can't find these anywhere. Pharmacy can order a case
(which I don't need!), I called the hospitals - but they claim they
don't have any. Does anyone have 6 (6 or 4 oz) that they don't need 
and have not expired? I would be happy to pay for them. I have 
gathered nearly everything that I need for the 10 day trip - a zillion
things. 

Also looking for a few good used paperbacks for easy reading on the
26 hour flight there - Stuart Woods, L. Spencer; B Delinsky; I read
a lot - but maybe there are one or two out there that someone is
through with that I haven't read.

Thank you. Gael



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1275.1SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveMon Apr 14 1997 10:5916
    
    	Gael,
    
    	At that age, we found that the eight ounce ready-to-feed
    	cans were very convenient (and you don't have to be concerned
    	with carrying glass).  
    
    	I kept a can in my diaper bag at all times, along with a 
    	small supply of disposable bottle liners and one clean bottle.
    
    	That might be an option for your trip.
    
    	Congratulations!
    
    	Karen
    
1275.2thanksMIPSBX::"[email protected]@exchange"gael dussaultMon Apr 14 1997 11:3312
Karen - thank you for your reply and congrats. I'm looking to 
keep the "weight" of my carry-on and luggage down - so I'm staying
away from heavy liquids. If I could find 6 oz bottles and put some
in the suitcase - some in my backpack, etc. I'd be all set. Extra
bottles in the package are another consideration. You cannot believe
the packing list; 62 diapers, 300 babywipes, your own toilet paper,
toys, clothes, bottles, dishes, cups, bibs, gerber food, formula
and meds, the list doesn't end!

Regards,
Gael
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1275.3Did you try walgreen'sSUBSYS::SPERAMon Apr 14 1997 11:4515
It was a long time ago but I got mine at Walgreen's when I adopted my first.
I didn't buy a whole case..maybe a couple of six packs.
Where are the other families getting theirs..split a case ?

I ended up with extras but they came in handy as you can throw them in a diaper
bag and not worry about refrigeration since they are sealed. Good to keep on
hand or store at Mom's.

Also, there is a soy based nutritional supplement on the market. It is actually
for use by children 1 and over but your baby is pretty close. I got it at
Walmart's when I adopted my second as he was already 1. I think it is called 
Pediasure. It comes in vanilla flavor. Mine drank it and I shared some with a fe
other kids on the trip. 

Good luck.
1275.4NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Apr 14 1997 12:002
I suppose Pampers haven't made it to China yet, but we were able to get them
locally when we adopted in Moldova.
1275.5pre-made bottlesMIPSBX::"[email protected]@exchange"gael dussaultMon Apr 14 1997 12:057
Didn't try Walgreens - did try Walmarts. Osco in some places in NH
have pre-made - but will not do transfers between stores! RE:
Pampers - just they have not made it to China - have to take our
own. No trouble with that but baby wipes are HEAVY!

Thanks everyone. Still looking 
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1275.6NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Apr 14 1997 15:552
Perhaps you could dry out the wipes by leaving the box open, and then
reconstitute them there by adding (boiled) water.
1275.7On diapers and wipesSUBSYS::SPERAWed Apr 16 1997 15:3915
In both Albania and Moldova, I was able to use a mix of pampers and cloth.

I think it depends on how much time the baby will be in your care versus
in the orphanage and how much running around you'll do with the baby in
tow. I used pampers on the plane and for trips to the US Embassy in
Bucharest but was able to get by with cloth in the hotel. It does require lots
of washing...by hand...but neither child suffered at all and it helped to
prepare my hands for all the cleaning up that came later.

In my case, the children had not been in a sterile environment and were not
going to a sterile environment so I didn't worry about warm versus hot water. I
did make sure that I put things to soak right away.

The cloth diapers also mae great spit up cloth, face cleaners, etc so they were
good to have along. 
1275.8nSTRATA::SPERRYThu Apr 17 1997 15:343
    I have seen those bottles of formula in CVS, try there..
    
    Sue
1275.9water and powderCASV05::BAKSTRAN_LThu Apr 17 1997 16:429
    Just another suggestion.  But if someone has those bottles empty
    you could fill them with water here and bring powder soy
    formula with you.
    
    I don't think I have any of those glass bottles left, but I used
    to save them to resuse, because they were so easy to carry
    around.  Someone may have used ones from some other type of formula.
    
    
1275.10???PETST3::STOLICNYThu Apr 17 1997 17:0313
    
    I'm afraid I don't understand the negative response to Karen's
    suggestion of the 8-oz cans of ready-to-feed soy formula.  If
    you are looking for pre-mixed bottles, how is that different 
    than pre-mixed formula in a can that you dump into say a Playtex
    disposable bottle?   The fluid you have to carry is same/similar.
    The playtex nursers have to weigh less than glass bottles and
    are only slightly less convenient.   The down side is that if 
    the baby is consuming less than 8oz at a feeding and you don't
    have a fridge handy, you may throw some formula away...
    
    Carol
      
1275.11CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageThu Apr 17 1997 17:069
    I think the issue is more of one more thing to carry and wieght than
    anything else.  
    
    I think the 8 oz cans is probably great, but China (depending on the
    part) is not an easy place to get around in, and carrying baby,
    diaperbag, luggage, paperwork (mountains of same) can't be all that
    easy.  Why add in one more bulky item?
    
    
1275.12PETST3::STOLICNYThu Apr 17 1997 17:1111
    
    Oh, one other thing I forgot is that a 10-month old is typically
    far less dependent on formula than an infant is -  although you
    obviously know this child's development better than I.  When my
    youngest was that age, he would not drink from a bottle during
    the daytime and was eating solids and drinking water and/or 
    juice between meals.   I just bring this up because I'm not sure
    how realistic the frantic feed on a bus scenario is for a child
    of 10 months...
    
    Carol   
1275.13SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveThu Apr 17 1997 17:1210
    
    	Thanks, Carol, I didn't get it either.
    
    	Meg, she's already looking to carry glass bottles of
    	premade formula, which she's having a hard time finding.
    	
    	I suggested the cans in lieu of the bottles, which are
    	lighter.
    
    
1275.14Broken glass?ALFA1::PEASLEEThu Apr 17 1997 17:151
    And the cans aren't as breakable......
1275.15PETST3::STOLICNYThu Apr 17 1997 17:274
    
    By the way, in case it wasn't clear, the 8-oz "can" is 
    actually plastic and has a pull-tab opening (last i
    knew, which admittedly was 1994)
1275.16PETST3::STOLICNYThu Apr 17 1997 17:348
    
    On the babywipe topic, you might consider the possiblity of
    using regular baby washclothes if you have a sink/water 
    handy some of the time.   At the risk of exposing myself
    as a "bad" mother, I'd never go through 300 babywipes on
    62 disposable diaper changes...  but then again, I don't
    use them for faces and hands (much) as I prefer plain old
    soap and water.    
1275.17SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveThu Apr 17 1997 17:4112
    	
    	sign me up in the bad mother category, too, then.
    
    	In regards to the eating habits of a ten month old,
    	my aunt has found that overseas orphanages tend to
    	go with what's easy.  Her 14 month old son didn't know
    	how to chew when she adopted him.  In Paraguay, the 
    	babies she saw were handed bottles of formula in their
    	cribs and expected to feed themselves.  I don't know
    	what's typical in China.
    
    
1275.18POWDML::VENTURAGreat Goodley Moogley!Fri Apr 18 1997 10:175
    I saw the pre-made bottles last night at CVS.  A six pack of 4 oz
    bottles was $10.30!  Wow!!
    
    Holly
    
1275.19which CVS has the pre-made bottlesNNTPD::"[email protected]@Exchange"gael dussaultTue Apr 22 1997 17:186
Holly, where is the CVS where you found pre-made bottles containing
soy-based formula - I've checked out every CVS in the North Worc
County area.

Thanks - Gael
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