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1180.1 | | HAZMAT::WEIER | Patty, DTN 381-0877 | Thu Aug 29 1996 12:51 | 42 |
| Terri,
If you have a court-ordered child support agreement, and he is failing to meet
in, then he is in contempt of court. You don't need an attorney. Usually the
clerk at your local courthouse (actually, I think you'd have to go to the
court in which the order was filed) can help you file the papers that you
need, for a hearing.
Realize, that since you've been allowing him to pay less, he can use that as a
precedent, and your support amount might actually be less than what is
currently ordered -- it depends on how much/hard he fights it.
If you're in NH, then it's all different, and there's no squabbling about it.
As a general rule, it pretty much works out to about 1/4 of his salary, for 1
child. (1/3 for 2 children) The formulas they use are more complex than that,
but that's about how it works out.
In NH, you would each need to fill out a Support Afidavit worksheet, which is
presented to the courts. They go over the figures, and plug them into the "NH
Child Support Formula", and they come up with an amount. And it doesn't
usually differ much from this amount. This can be re-adjusted every 3 years,
or if circumstances change dramatically (someone loses a job).
Technically, when he lost his original job, HE should have taken it back to
court to have the child-support amount adjusted. By being the "nice gal" you
sort of left yourself open to receiving less as ordered by courts, but it's
still not hopeless.
You'll want to bring evidence that he's consistently not reliable with his
payments, for them to attach wages. For 1 bounced check in 6 mos you might
have a hard time. As for it messing up your account - that's your 'fault'.
It's not legal to write checks for money you don't have. You technically
didn't have his money, UNTIL his check cleared. The court might not be very
sympathetic on that front, but I'd try it anyway.
If they won't attach wages, a lot of people have support paid through a local
"welfare" type office (may not be welfare, maybe social services??), and in
theory, they are supposed to harrass him if he doesn't pay. I don't have any
more information about that process.
Good Luck!
Patty
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1180.2 | | CSLALL::JACQUES_CA | Crazy ways are evident | Thu Aug 29 1996 13:49 | 8 |
| If the support was not court appointed to start with, you are in
even deeper. You have to file for support. He is not responsible
for paying you anything legally, and until you file, he could stop
and not be responsible for the time he misses.
You are not able to get his pay attached as your first step.
cj *->
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1180.3 | | SHRCTR::PGILL | | Thu Aug 29 1996 14:25 | 13 |
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The base note stated he was ordered at the time of the divorce to pay
X amount of support.
I ran into a problem with my ex paying on time,
etc. I went to the courthouse where I got the divorce, filled out two
forms and within two weeks started getting checks from his employer. I
did have my lawyer with me, but he didn't really do anything. I just
filled the forms and signed.
Definately worth a call to the courthouse.
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1180.4 | Check your divorce papers, maybe it was covered... | MROA::DUPUIS | | Thu Aug 29 1996 14:44 | 4 |
| My divorce degree states in it that if my x defaults, his wages will be
attached.
Roberta
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1180.5 | hairsplitting dept. | MPGS::WOOLNER | Your dinner is in the supermarket | Thu Aug 29 1996 15:35 | 12 |
| .0> ...he was set to pay
does not equal
.3> he was ordered at the time of the divorce to pay
Being "set to pay" can mean financially in a position to pay, or even
*willing* to pay, but it doesn't imply a mandate from anyone at all.
Basenoter, was it stipulated in the divorce?
Leslie
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1180.6 | all in writing... | SCAMP::PENNELLA | | Thu Aug 29 1996 16:21 | 3 |
| Yes, it's stipulated in the divorce papers.
-Terri
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1180.7 | what bounced check? | SCAMP::PENNELLA | | Thu Aug 29 1996 16:25 | 8 |
| ... oh one more thing regarding
<.1
"I" didn't bounce checks... he did. "It" messed up my account because
the money wasnt in my account when I went to access it. Please do not
assume I go around writing bad checks!
-Terri
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1180.8 | Doesn't seem *fair*, but... | MPGS::WOOLNER | Your dinner is in the supermarket | Thu Aug 29 1996 17:25 | 9 |
| He burned you, but Patty is correct that the check you wrote on
an *assumed* bank balance is technically your "fault." It's the
account holder's responsibility to know his/her bank balance and be
*sure* it's sufficient for the check(s) s/he's writing.
Maybe you can get future payments (either from him or wage garnishing)
paid to you in bank checks (certified checks/money orders)?
Leslie
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1180.9 | You don't get it? | SCAMP::PENNELLA | | Thu Aug 29 1996 17:29 | 8 |
| Leslie and Patty,
*** I did not write check(s) that bounced.. I thought I just said it
on the previous memo??? If your REREAD my note is said "he bounced
a check which messed up my account" That does not mean "I" bounced
anything... the money was not there when I called the DCU!! That's all
I'm just asking for legal info... not financial!
Terri
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1180.10 | read for comprehension folks | SCAMP::MINICHINO | | Thu Aug 29 1996 17:29 | 12 |
| I think the noter said that she "didn't write checks against" a
insufficient account....Maybe you guys should read for comprehension...
now the point in fact is this....he's not paying his support...can
someone help the base noter with a logical and non judgemental
resolution.....
again......the noter said that she DID NOT WRTIE AGAINST THIS
CHECK****HELLO, he's done it before...
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1180.11 | | CSC32::M_EVANS | watch this space | Thu Aug 29 1996 17:47 | 5 |
| The DA's office in CO has a child support enforcement unit. i don't
know about your state. I have found that if you are not on state aid,
you are put on a lower priority, but they can help you out.
meg
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1180.12 | | BIGQ::MARCHAND | | Fri Aug 30 1996 08:46 | 22 |
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I understand what she's saying how 'his' bounced check messing her
up. I was in a situation where someone wrote me out a $300 and it
'bounced', DCU deposited into my account twice and then finally mailed
it to me and 'substracted' another $15 from my account. I asked the
person in question for $315 in cash after that. This took about two
weeks to get. IF the person had honored the check, I wouldn't have to
have gone through the BULL and FRUSTRATION of seeing the money added,
then subtracted, then added, then subrated and finally charged me
$15! This if frustrating and they shouldn't have done this in the first
place, that was truelly their fault. I didn't PLAN on what to do
with the money until after I got it, but it was still frustrating to
go through it.
When others WRONG US, we have a right to feel anger and
frustration, and there's nothing wrong with having these healthy
emotions. I know I didn't do anything wrong by asking for the money
in cash, PLUS the $15 the DCU charged my account for what THEY did to
me.
Just my 2 cents
Rosie
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1180.13 | I should've engaged brain B4 operating keyboard | MPGS::WOOLNER | Your dinner is in the supermarket | Fri Aug 30 1996 10:05 | 4 |
| My apologies. I forgot about banks assessing processing charges for an
incoming rubber check (which really is IMO punishing the innocent!).
Leslie
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1180.14 | Where are you located..... | MROA::DUPUIS | | Fri Aug 30 1996 10:38 | 4 |
| Terri--what state are you in....I think in Mass you can notify the
department of revenue to have his wages attached.
Roberta
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1180.15 | | MROA::SPICER | | Fri Aug 30 1996 15:25 | 30 |
| Terri,
You do not have to go to court or hire a lawyer in MA (I'm not sure
if NH is the same). If you have an order, call the Dept. of Revenue
Child Support Enforcement.
You have to prove that there is an order, it helps if you have some
evidence of non payment but it's not vital (proving what hasn't
happened isn't easy) and they will then open a case on your behalf.
Typically they will contact your ex, work out a repayment schedule for
what he has not paid, add that to the ordered payments and attach his
pay.
Frankly, his allowing it to get to this stage is about as stupid as you
can get. HE should have been in court having the amount adjusted as
soon as he was fired. I guess the question you have to ask yourself is,
given what he earns, is he paying a reasonable (to guidelines) amount ?
i.e. would a court order him to pay more or less than what you are
actually getting ?
You should expect that the minute he hears from the DOR he will get the
amount changed to reflect his current income.
Martin
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1180.16 | | HAZMAT::WEIER | Patty, DTN 381-0877 | Mon Sep 09 1996 11:43 | 13 |
| Terri,
Sorry for misunderstanding .... I guess when I say it "messed up my account"
it means to me, that the balance dipped into the negative numbers. Ooops!
It would definitely help if we knew what state you are in. Also, you may find
a bunch of information (flip side, but still good info) in
NON_CUSTODIAL_PARENTS .... but be a little careful asking questions - they can
be a fiesty bunch! (-;
-Apologies again ...
Patty
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