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Conference moira::parenting

Title:Parenting
Notice:Previous PARENTING version at MOIRA::PARENTING_V3
Moderator:GEMEVN::FAIMANY
Created:Thu Apr 09 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1292
Total number of notes:34837

1016.0. "Symptoms of ADD?" by CSC32::L_WHITMORE () Tue Aug 29 1995 21:22

    I searched thru this notesfile as well as the learning disabilities
    notesfile and didn;t find exactly what I was looking for.  Please
    direct me if you know of an existing note!!  What I would like to
    know is, what are the usual symptoms of ADD in a very young child?
    (ie. 2 years old) Thanks. Lila
    
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1016.1I'd like to help!NPSS::CREEGANWed Aug 30 1995 13:1410
    See ASABET::LEARNING_DISABILITIES.
    Attention Deficit Disorder is considered a learning disablity.
    
    I'll send you mail off-line.  My 8 year old was diagnosed when
    he was a kindergartener.  Sometimes there are gray areas. 
    
    kare
    
    Sometimes this can be a painful process for the parents as
    well as the child.
1016.2too young to diagnoseSTOWOA::SPERAThu Aug 31 1995 11:0920
    You are not likely to find what you are looking for as it is unlikely
    anyone would diagnose a two year old as having ADD. That doesn't mean
    she doesn't have it and won't be diagnosed later.
    
    My pedi told me and the Early Intervention folks confirm that it is too
    hard to diagnose in toddlers and that behavior which is in the normal
    range for a two year old (even if at the extreme end of normal) is
    outside the range at 6 or 7. 
    
    I don't know what you are seeing, but my suggestion is to find some
    time to sit at the kitchen table and play with a puzzle or 1 toy...no
    other distractions...a few minutes at a time...a 2 year old doesn't
    have an attention span. Look her in the eyes, getting down to her
    level, when you talk to her. Try to keep things orderly..put toys away
    in the same place all the time...maybe behind curtains so that she
    isn't distracted by the sight of one when playing with another.
    
    And enjoy it when her first sentence is: "Look at the sky" rather than 
    "I want a cookie". I have a 4 year old who is making me nuts but is
    a hundred times more wonderfilled than any other child. 
1016.3What is it?ALFA1::PEASLEEThu Aug 31 1995 11:3811
    What is ADD?  How is it diagnosed?  How can you tell whether or not the 
    child is bored, undisciplined or has ADD?  I have spoken to a couple
    of doctors that don't think ADD exists and that it is a catch all phase 
    for kids that either are undisiplined or bored.
    I know a child that was diagnosed with it (and another doctor disagreed
    with the diagnosis) and he himself (the child) stated that he
    was just bored with things or couldn't sit still.
    
    Comments?
    
     
1016.4TEAMLK::PELLANDThu Aug 31 1995 14:403
    
    
    ADD = Attention Deficit Disorder
1016.5NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Aug 31 1995 16:482
If you want more information, there's lots in the LD notesfile referenced
earlier in this topic.
1016.6Become an advocate.NPSS::CREEGANThu Aug 31 1995 17:408
    Re .3
    
    If a Doctor told me that ("no such thing as ADD") after
    all we have been though and the differences we've seen,
    I would be openly hostile and insultive for such an ignorant
    remark.
    
    IMHO  :-)
1016.7CSC32::L_WHITMORESat Sep 02 1995 13:269
    Thank you for the replies here and offline.  An aquaintance of
    mine has a 2 1/2 year old son who was diagnosed as ADD.  I
    did not ask her how they determined he had this since she's not
    really a friend and I didn;t want to be nosy!  But, when watchine
    her son and my almost-2-year-old son play, I saw alot of similarities
    and was concerned that perhaps my son also had this.  However, after
    reading thru the replies I have recieved, I believe my son may just
    be hyperactive.  Thanks again.  Lila
    
1016.8TLE::C_STOCKSCheryl StocksSun Sep 03 1995 09:104
    As far as I can tell, *all* 2-year-olds are hyperactive!  I would
    imagine that's why they don't normally attempt to diagnose ADD
    until a later age - the symptoms of ADD or ADHD are (oversimplifying!)
    some typical 2-year-old behavior patterns persisting in an older child.
1016.9ADD myth/factMKOTS3::ISBELLTue Sep 12 1995 14:37174
   I found this on the CHADD home page. 
               
    
    
    		      ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER                       
   			 BEYOND THE MYTHS
    Published
    By Division of Innovation and Development Office of SpecialEducation
    Programs Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative ServicesU.S.
    Department of EducationThis document was developed by the Chesapeake
    Institute, Washington, D.C.,with The Widmeyer Group, Washington, D.C.,
    as part of contract #HS92017001from the Office of Special Education
    Programs, Office of Special Educationand Rehabilitative Services,
    United States Department of Education. The points of view expressed in
    this publication are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect
    the position or policy of the U.S. Department of Education. We encourage
    the reproduction and distribution of this publication.
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    MYTH:
    Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) does not really exist. It is simply the
    latest excuse for parents who do not discipline their children.
    FACT:
    Scientific research tells us ADD is a biologically-based disorder that
    includes distractibility, impulsiveness, and sometimes
    hyperactivity. While the causes of ADD are not fully understood, recent
    research suggests that ADD can be inherited and may be due to an
    imbalance of neurotransmitters -- chemicals used by the brain to control
    behavior -- or abnormal glucose metabolism in the central nervous
    system. Before a student is labeled ADD, other possible causes of his or
    her behavior are ruled out.                        
    
    MYTH: Children with ADD are no different from their peers; 
    all children have a hard time sitting still and paying attention.
    
    FACT: Before children are considered to have ADD, they must
    show symptoms that demonstrate behavior greatly different from what is
    expected for children of their age and background. They start to show
    the behaviors characteristic of ADD between ages three and seven,
    including fidgeting; restlessness; difficulty remaining seated; being
    easily distracted; difficulty waiting their turn; blurting out answers;
    difficulty obeying instructions; difficulty paying attention; shifting
    from one uncompleted activity to another; difficulty playing quietly;
    talking excessively; interrupting; not listening; often losing things;
    and not considering the consequences of their actions.
    These behaviors are persistent and occur in many different settings and
    situations. Further-more, the behavior must be causing significant
    social, academic, or occupational impairment for the child to be
    diagnosed educationally as having ADD.                        
    
    MYTH: 
    Only a few people really have ADD.
    FACT:
    Estimates of who has ADD range from 3 to 5 percent of the school
    age population (between 1.46 and 2.44 million children.) While boys
    outnumber girls by 4:1 to 9:1, experts believe that many girls with ADD
    are never diagnosed.                        
    
    MYTH: 
    ADD can be prevented.
    FACT: While scientists are not certain they understand the causes of 
    ADD,they have ruled out most of the factors controlled by parents. 
    A poor diet does not cause ADD; nor does sugar or food additives. 
    Normal quantities of lead will not cause ADD. Since the causes of ADD 
    are genetic and biological, the parents cannot cause ADD by being too 
    strict or too lenient. However, actions by the parents can influence 
    the child's ability to control his or her ADD behavior. Recently, some 
    studies suggest a few cases of ADD may be caused by the use of alcohol 
    and drugs by the mother while pregnant.                        
    -------------------------
    MYTH: 
    All children with ADD are hyperactive and have learning disabilities.
    FACT: While 10 to 33 percent of children
    with ADD also have learning disabilities, the two disorders cause
    different problems for children. ADD primarily affects the behavior of
    the child -- causing inattention and impulsivity -- while learning
    disabilities primarily affect the child's ability to learn -- mainly in
    processing information. Not all students with ADD are hyperactive and
    constantly in motion; many are considered to have undifferentiated ADD
    (Attention Deficit Disorderwithout hyperactivity). Because these
    children do not behave in the sameway as hyperactive ADD students,
    their disorder frequently is not recognized, and they are often
    considered unmotivated or lazy.                        
    -------------------------
    MYTH: 
    Many children are incorrectly diagnosed as having ADD.
    FACT: There are several national psychological tests that
    schools use to identify students with ADD. Children suspected of having
    ADD are referred to a child specialist (e.g., school counselor,
    psychologist, pediatrician)for clinical evaluation. Observations and
    reports from parents and teachersare critical to proper diagnosis.
    Sometimes, children are given intelligence, attention, and achievement
    tests. Doctors may also administer neuropsychological tests and
    neurological examinations. Most importantly, it is a team of
    professionals in education, medicine, and psychology who pool test
    results and make a final determination. Since achild's hyperactivity,
    distractibility, and impulsive behavior may be due to other factors,
    such as a limited home environment or learning problems, the specialists
    check for other causes of these behaviors before making a diagnosis of
    ADD.                         -------------------------
    MYTH:
    Medication can cure students with ADD.
    FACT: 
    Medicine cannot cure ADD but can
    sometimes temporarily moderate its effects. Stimulant medication such as
    Ritalin, Cylert, and Dexedrine is effective in 70 percent of the
    children who take it. In those cases, medication causes children to
    exhibit a clear and immediate short-term increase in attention, control,
    concentration, and goal-directed effort. Medication also reduces
    disruptive behaviors, aggression, and hyperactivity.
    However, there are side effects and no evidence for long-term
    effectiveness of medication. For example, recent studies show that 
    medication has only limited short-term benefits on social adjustment 
    and academic achievement.
    While medication can be incorporated into other treatment strategies,
    parents and teachers should not use medication as the sole method of
    helping the child.
                             -------------------------
    MYTH: The longer you wait to deal with ADD in students, the better the
    chances are that they will outgrow it.
    
    FACT: ADD symptoms continue into adolescence for 50-80 percent of the
    children with ADD. Many of them, between 30-50 percent, still will have
    ADD
    as adults. These adolescents and adults frequently show poor academic
    performance, poor self-image, and problems with peer relationships.
                             -------------------------
    MYTH: There is little parents and teachers can do to control the
    behavior of children with ADD.
    
    FACT: Teachers and parents have successfully used positive
    reinforcement procedures to increase desirable behaviors. A behavioral 
    modification plan can give the child more privileges and independence 
    as the child's behavior improves. Parents or teachers can give tokens 
    or points to a child exhibiting desired behavior -- such as remaining 
    seated or being quiet
    --
    and can further reward children for good school performance and for
    finishing homework. Mild, short, immediate reprimands can counter and
    decrease negative and undesirable behaviors. Students with ADD can
    learn to follow classroom rules when there are pre-established 
    consequences for misbehavior, rules are enforced consistently and 
    immediately, and encouragement is given at home and in school.
                             -------------------------
    MYTH: Students with ADD cannot learn in the regular classroom.
    
    FACT: More than half of the children with ADD succeed in the mainstream
    classroom when teachers make appropriate adjustments. Most others
    require
    just a part-time program that gives them additional help in a resource
    room. Teachers can help students learn by providing increased variety.
    Often, altering features of instructional activities or materials, such
    as
    paper color, presentation rate, and response activities, help teachers
    hold
    the attention of students with ADD. Active learning and motor
    activities
    also help. ADD students learn best when classroom organization is
    structured and predictable.
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1016.10Thanks!CSC32::L_WHITMORETue Sep 12 1995 18:363
    re: -1 - thanks so much for posting that information - it is very
    helpful!  Lila
    
1016.11SWAM1::GOLDMAN_MAOy To the World!Wed Dec 20 1995 17:1926
    Further comments -- the Dr. who said there is no such thing as ADD
    should meet my former GP...he has a 10 year old ADD boy.  He, too,
    maintained that not all hyperactive kids have ADD and not all ADD kids
    are hyperactive.  Do not be convinced, either, that a child must not be
    ADD because they do pay close attention to *some* things.  An
    non-hyperactive ADD child (again, according to my old GP, whose son 
    is ADD) can become completely absorbed in a subject or activity which
    they find very stimulating (cartoons, video games, a particular school
    subject) but be completely incapable of listening to and remembering a
    three-part instruction you give them (i.e, "Go to your room and pickup
    your laundry, then put it in the hamper) or of concentrating on a
    less-interesting class assignment for 20 minutes or so.  
    
    This same GP also told me that it is generally not easy to diagnose an
    ADD child under the age of 7-8; he told me not to be concerned about it
    until then or unless my son began having major school problems before
    then.  Personally, now that my son has become an extremely lazy,
    inattentive 7 years, I am strongly considering requesting testing for
    the milder form of ADD.  If nothing else, it would rule out biological
    issues and let us concentrate upon the reality of a super-bright child
    with the work-dedication of your average 2 year old!
    
    Regards,
    
    Marla