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Title:Parenting
Notice:Previous PARENTING version at MOIRA::PARENTING_V3
Moderator:GEMEVN::FAIMANY
Created:Thu Apr 09 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1292
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971.0. "Kumon" by ULYSSE::KRESTIC () Wed Jun 14 1995 11:53

    
    
    
    	Can anybody explain what is the Kumon method of learning? Is it
    	only for mathematics? Is it only for children that are behind 
    	their school level or for everybody? What are the goals and the
    	results?
    
    
    	Thanks.
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971.1Question on KumonQUEK::MOYMichael Moy, Oracle SQL Engineering, 603-881-1943Wed Jun 14 1995 14:2051
This reply and the one following are from the home-schooling newsgroups.

michael
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QUEK::MOY "[email protected] (Larry Wright)"        42 lines  10-JUN-1995 11:02
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Article: 4034
Newsgroups: misc.education.home-school.misc
From: [email protected] (Larry Wright)
Subject: Kumon math info needed
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 03:54:11 GMT
 
I have just had a chance to look at a document from Kumon concerning the
development of their math program.  It seems quite impressive.  But it
does seem to go in directions quite different from, and often opposite to,
current math instruction ideas.  I'd appreciate your views on this
program. 
 
In the document, there are a number of research results quoted to support
the approach.  Is there a body of research that shows more recent
techniques and approaches to be superior?  If so, I'd appreciate any
specific references you might be able to tell me about. 
 
Alternatively, are there any references or data (; I'll settle for
opinions, too ;) that show the Kumon approach to be flawed or
inappropriate in any way? 
 
The Kumon approach also seems to produce results superior to what many
(most?) schools are able to do in math.  Is there any research that shows
current techniques and approaches to produce *results* equal to or better
than Kumon?  If so, I'd appreciate any specific references you might know
of. Also, is there any convincing data to show that the Kumon approach
does not produce superior results? 
 
Attention Kumon fans: my purpose is not to discredit Kumon in any way.  On
the contrary, it looks very, *very* good.  I am just trying to get a
broader perspective so one can compare the more 'traditional' Kumon
approach with the 'new math' ways (-: I agree that both names are not
necessarily accurate, but perhaps you get the idea anyway; let's not
quibble about names :-). 
 
Thanks for your insights,
 
Larry
[email protected]
971.2misc.education.home-school.misc (Sutapa Chattopadhyay)QUEK::MOYMichael Moy, Oracle SQL Engineering, 603-881-1943Wed Jun 14 1995 14:2124
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QUEK::MOY "[email protected] (Sutapa Chattopadhy" 18 lines  13-JUN-1995 03:42
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Article: 4054
From: [email protected] (Sutapa Chattopadhyay)
Newsgroups: misc.education.home-school.misc
Subject: Re: Kumon math info needed
Date: 12 Jun 1995 13:43:29 GMT
Organization: Morgan Stanley and Co.
 
My personal opinion of Kumon is that it is essentially drill
and practise that wears down students who are good at Math. 
I would not recommend it to anyone. I've not sent my child
to Kumon classes for that reason. Some amount of drill is needed
to reinforce concepts and of course, you need to know your
multiplication tables but all that can be done at home. My son
would find it endlessly boring and it would kill his interest
in Math.
-- 
Sutapa Chattopadhyay.                              
 
971.3QUEK::MOYMichael Moy, Oracle SQL Engineering, 603-881-1943Wed Jun 14 1995 14:226
In addition, there are current notes on Kumon in misc.education.
k12.ed.math is a good place to ask this question too. From what I've heard,
it's mainly drill. You can probably do the same thing yourself at home if
this is your philosophical education style.

michael
971.4Thanks.ULYSSE::KRESTICThu Jun 15 1995 03:372
    
    	Thank you, Michael.
971.5one more replyQUEK::MOYMichael Moy, Oracle SQL Engineering, 603-881-1943Thu Jun 15 1995 12:0235
    Article: 4087
    From: [email protected] (SUSAN TANIGUCHI)
    Newsgroups: misc.education.home-school.misc
    Subject: Re: Kumon math info needed
    Date: 13 Jun 1995 04:25:56 GMT
    Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ (USA)
    
    
    In a previous article, [email protected] (Sutapa Chattopadhyay)
    says:
    
    >My personal opinion of Kumon is that it is essentially drill
    >and practise that wears down students who are good at Math.
    >I would not recommend it to anyone. I've not sent my child
    >to Kumon classes for that reason. Some amount of drill is needed
    >to reinforce concepts and of course, you need to know your
    >multiplication tables but all that can be done at home. My son
    >would find it endlessly boring and it would kill his interest
    >in Math.
    >--
    >Sutapa Chattopadhyay.
    >
    >
    I agree that all that Kumon does is drill and practise, but
    it doesn't have to wear kids down.  Especially as most of
    homework assignments take no longer than 10 - 15 minutes a
    day, well at the beginning at least.
    
    What some kids find boring others love.
    
    If you are interested in Kumon, give it a try, if your
    kid likes it keep going, if they hate it there is no
    compulsion to stay.  That's why we homeschool, so that
    we can individualized things to our own childs needs.