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Conference moira::parenting

Title:Parenting
Notice:Previous PARENTING version at MOIRA::PARENTING_V3
Moderator:GEMEVN::FAIMANY
Created:Thu Apr 09 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1292
Total number of notes:34837

881.0. "11months not mobil" by UBOHUB::HOPE_T () Mon Jan 16 1995 08:24

    HELP !! 
    
    What can I do. My daughter is 11 months old. But will make no effort to 
    move about at all she was a late sitter. If she is place on her stomach
    she will iether roll straight over onto her back or just lie flat out
    on the floor and cry. If she is sitting up and a toy is placed just out
    of her reach she will ignore it rather that try to get to it!.
    
    When I had my eldest we had not heard it was best to put babies on ther
    back to sleep so she slept on her front. She was crawling at 6 months
    and had no aversion to lying on her stomach.
    
    any ideas?
    
    Tracey
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881.1?SWAM2::GOLDMAN_MABlondes have more Brains!Mon Jan 16 1995 12:0617
    Is she (otherwise) developing normally?  Some children are just really
    late bloomers.  Will she walk with your assistance?  Does she roll
    across the floor to get where she wants?  
    
    If she is in daycare, you might check with her caregiver to see how 
    much help she is being given.  If the caregiver is a busy person with 
    several children to care for, he/she may be getting her whatever she 
    needs or wants, rather than making her "work" for it.  If that is the
    case, you, your family and your caregiver need to come to a uniform
    agreement of when to help, when to let her do it herself.
    
    We found with our son that the more we helped him, the less he chose 
    to do.
    
    M.
    
    
881.2USCTR1::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketMon Jan 16 1995 12:144
    I think very chubby babies tend to take longer with this stuff too--is
    she on the tubby end of the scale?
    
    Leslie
881.3Learn by immitationUSCTR1::WILBONMon Jan 16 1995 15:5511
    
    Have you voiced your concerns with your pediatrition?  She/he may also
    be able to give you some suggestions.  But, I've found young children
    at any age enjoy copying other children.  You stated you had an older
    child, perhaps you can have the older child play with the baby, maybe
    make up a game of getting her to crawl to the older sister.  Really
    show excitement if she even makes an attempt to crawl.   Also, my kids
    love to watch themselves on video.  If you have any old videos of your
    older one learning to walk you could show it to the kids together.  If
    nothing comes of it, you'd probably get a kick out of seeing them
    again.  
881.4she CAN'T or WON'T??CLOUD9::WEIERPatty, DTN 381-0877Mon Jan 16 1995 22:4232
    Chris was my "slug" baby.  He didn't MOVE till he was 13 mos old.  Then
    he FINALLY started to crawl.  He was 17 mos old before he started
    walking.  He was in his walker before then, but I don't recall him
    moving a lot in it till after he was crawling.
    
    Now he just started skiing lessons, and if I could keep him still for
    20 seconds, it would be SO nice!!  He was a bit "chubbier" than maybe
    he should've been (didn't seem it to me at the time - I only say this
    from looking back at pics now), and this may have been Part of it, but
    REALLY, I think he just didn't have the urge.
    
    My pedi was discussing this the other day - Jonathan's gross motor
    skills seem to be trailing behind others his age - but his fine motor
    skills are months ahead of others.  She said that, even as infants,
    babies will display preferences.  IN GENERAL, they develop evenly, but
    many children prefer to run about, and many other children prefer to
    sit quietly and play with blocks.  She said that you're more concerned
    with the ABILITY to do something, rather than actually DOING it.  If it
    seems like she HAS the strength to move about, just chooses not to,
    then there's no need to worry.  It's just a preference.  And also she
    said that a lot of times unless a child sees a clear NEED to do
    something differently, that they won't "progress" to the next
    development level.
    
    Be glad she's still .... Jonathan just started walking last weekend,
    and today they told me from daycare, that he's been pushing over all
    the other kids.  He walks up to them and pushes into them until they
    tip over.  Nice kid, eh?  Unfortunately, I taught him that trick - it
    was funny when he pushed ME over!!  It's a lot simpler when they CAN'T
    do some things!! (-:
    
    As long as she has the strength, I'm sure she's fine.....
881.5answersUBOHUB::HOPE_TTue Jan 17 1995 07:0827
    
    
    
    re. 1
    She will walk (backwards) in her baby walker but if I hold her up she
    just sticks her legs out to the side (not very helpful). Her
    childminder says that she is quite advanced in her fine motor skill.
    
    re 2. 
    Yes she is rather large/chubby for her age.
    
    re 3.
    In the UK we tend not to have access to a pediatrition but we do have
    Health Visitors sorry if I offend anyone here but in my experience (OK
    its only 2 that I've met) they are both elderly spinsters who only know
    the theory of childcare and have not had true experience.
    Yes I have an older child (4 1/2) and we have all spent many an evening
    crawling round the living room (I shut the curtains first just in case
    anyone should see me on all fours crawling round the room, my eldest
    on all fours crawling round the room shouting "this is the way to
    do it" and the baby flat on her face screaming!!!).
    
    re 4.
     
    As I said earlier she is advanced in her fine motor skills. But she
    just does not seem to be motivated to move at all not even to roll
    about.  
881.6intervention helped my daughterSTOWOA::SPERATue Jan 17 1995 12:1039
    
    Don't panic but do be concerned.
    
    My daughter had delayed gross motor development. She is now 3 1/2 and 
    I can't keep her still. However, I am very grateful for the
    intervention we received.
    
    We have a program in the States (called Early Intervention) which 
    provides services to children under 3. My pedi didn't think she needed
    them but I did (it's my experience that doctors are trained in
    medicine, not in development or therapy or anything else).
    
    At 8 months old, my daughter was diagnosed as having mild cerebral
    palsy. I was a wreck. With a little help from physical therapists,
    she sat at 9 months old, crawled at 1 year, and walked...not well...at
    18 months.
    
    One of the behaviors I noticed looked like what you are describing. My
    daughter sometimes flipped over so I thought she could roll. At other
    times, she lay on her stomach and cried..sometimes with her face in
    vomit (now, why wouldn't she roll). It was a therapist who pointed out
    that she was flipping uncontollably when she tried to reach. She was
    not rolling.
    
    We had to work with her on very small steps...I'd be happy to talk to
    you off line in lots of detail...We had to get her to sit properly with
    legs a bit closer together. The therapist recommended a very low seat
    so that she could sit with feet planted on the floor and we could
    encourage the knees to come together. The walker was an absolute  NO
    NO. We set up a low table and encouraged her to play in a kneeling
    position to get those knees together and bearing weight. 
    
    Now, my daughter skips, hops, climbs, dances....
    
    By the way, she learned to roll over after she had learned to walk. We 
    worked on that as well and made a game out of it.
    
    Send mail or give a call. There's got to be a way to get an evaluation
    and help. There is a lot you can do to help. 
881.7walkers are badFABSIX::J_MAXIMWed Feb 01 1995 01:427
    I agree with *6 regarding the walker.  I've heard on the radio
    recently public announcements from a chiropractic(sp?) group
    that walkers cause back injuries in children.  
    
    Has anyone else heard this?  
    
    John.
881.8UBOHUB::HOPE_TFri Jul 14 1995 09:537
    just a quick update here.
    
    17 months and only a bottom shuffle. She still will not stand-up.
    
    
    Tracey
                                         
881.9CHEFS::HOPE_TTue Nov 07 1995 08:234
    20 months and...... yes she has now taken her first steps 
    
    
    Tracey
881.10baby stepsCSLALL::JACQUES_CACrazy ways are evidentTue Nov 07 1995 08:3220
    14 MTHS and Angeline is full-fledged cruiser and crawling.  She
    really likes to let go of things and see how long she can stand.
    Or, just get to a stand up on her own and then wiggle her butt
    and legs to see how long before she loses her balance.  Sometimes
    she'll start to lose it and get it back.
    
    It is just a riot watching her practice!  
    
    It's also a big deal now to get herself in and out of seats.  Like
    her booster seat, or activity rocker.  Learning to turn herself around
    and plunk her butt in, then get up "cruise" away, come back, turn around,
    etc..  She'll do it over and over and over.....  The determination just
    amazes me!  
    
    With all the neices and nephews I've watched grow, I thought I'd seen
    it all.  It is just SO DIFFERENT when it's your own and you watch all
    the developments, rather than be shown the latest "tricks" they've
    learned.
    
    					       	cj *->