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Conference moira::parenting

Title:Parenting
Notice:Previous PARENTING version at MOIRA::PARENTING_V3
Moderator:GEMEVN::FAIMANY
Created:Thu Apr 09 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1292
Total number of notes:34837

542.0. "Gagging....Help!" by SWAM1::HERRERA_LI () Fri Jun 18 1993 15:21

    I need some advice!!!  My son, Alex, is 2 yrs. 10 mo., and we 
    have a problem.  Every time he smells anything "bad" (stinky) 
    he gags.  And if I don't catch it in time, he vomits.  He's 
    always been a child who vomits easily, gets car sick (started
    at 8 months), etc.  But recently it's gotten much worse.  
    When I change him and it's "stinky", he plugs his nose and is usually
    fine.  If he starts to gag, I talk him through a little breathing
    exercise that seems to work most of the time.
    
    The BIG problem:
    
    He's been using the potty on/off for about 6 months.  By on/off
    I mean that he CAN use the potty successfully, but I think he 
    finds it much more convenient if I change his diapers.  So, if
    I remind him, and talk him into trying, he will.  He always gets
    a reward for going/trying.  I try to keep it very positive.
    Recently he's started to gag whenever he goes in the potty.  I 
    switched him from a potty chair to a seat on the regular toilet,
    thinking that the water would dilute the smell (logical?).  Well,
    little Mr. Sensitive Nose _still_ finds it offensive and gags.
    I'm afraid that he will start to associate going potty with gagging,
    and won't want to try anymore....he REALLY, REALLY hates gagging,
    and gets very upset and angry whenever he feels the urge to vomit.
    
    Is my child weird???  Has anyone else gone through this?  Is there
    something medically wrong that makes him gag so easily??  What can
    I do to make it easier on him???
    
    Help!!!
    
    -Linette 
    
    
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542.1MCIS5::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketFri Jun 18 1993 15:4415
    Alexandra has always been a gaggy kid too.  I have a pet theory, totally
    unsubstantiated, that there are 2 kinds of babies: crybabies (colic)
    and barf babies--I got the latter!
    
    Anyway, Alex can easily get grossed out enough to barf; it's happened
    on 2 separate field trips to the New England Aquarium because of the
    "fishy smell"--give me a break!!  What has helped has been to give her
    one of those magazine tear-out perfume strips, which she can put in a
    pocket or fanny pack for use in olfactory emergencies.  They're
    definitely powerful enough to obscure most ill winds...  I'm careful not 
    to use *my* usual fragrance, as I don't want my scent to be associated with
    unpleasantness :-} .  Could you put a stash of 'em in a bathroom drawer?
    
    Good luck!
    Leslie
542.2ASABET::TRUMPOLTLiz Trumpolt - 223-7195, MSO2-2/F3Fri Jun 18 1993 17:1110
    I don't have any experience with this matter but maybe you could talk
    to you pedi about this if you already haven't.  I do gag if a smell is
    really really bad but not that often, and my son Alex (3.5 yrs) has
    never gaged in his life, except when he is sick.  Maybe the pedi could
    suggest something for him or you to use in the bathroom.  Have you
    tried an air freshner of some sort to control the smell from the potty.
    
    Good luck
    
    Liz
542.3In case I was unclearMCIS5::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketFri Jun 18 1993 17:415
    I meant that he can hold a perfume strip up to his nose (not that a
    drawer full of magazine tear-outs would do the trick by acting as a
    room air freshener).
    
    Leslie
542.4thanks, I needed that!SWAM1::HERRERA_LIFri Jun 18 1993 18:3123
    re: .1
    
    Barf babies.....!  You crack me up, Leslie!  I laughed right out loud!!  
    Your theory holds true for me.  Alex has never been a cry baby, but if
    I had a nickel for every time I was barfed on, I'd be rich!!
    
    Re: the air freshener idea.  Yes, I've got one in his bathroom and _I_
    think it smells nice, but aparently it isn't strong enough for Alex!
    The perfume strips are a great idea.  I've used "wipies" when faced
    with the threat of getting barfed on....I always buy the scented
    variety.
    
    I'm not sure if it's only the smell....he can't bear to look at his
    pea or poop either.  Not that one should gaze at it, but he has to
    flush without looking!!  
    
    Oh, I hope this is a stage he out-grows soon.....I really don't want
    to be changing diapers for the rest of his life.
    
    Thanks,
    
    -Linette
    
542.5RICKS::PATTONMon Jun 21 1993 12:1213
    Linette,
    
    My son has a sensitive nose too. With him, I think a lot of it
    is mental -- if he gets grossed out, he can't stop thinking about
    it, then he gags, then he thinks about not gagging and gags some
    more, etc. I've tried to teach him the technique of taking slow,
    deep breaths through the mouth, and actually I encourage him to
    hold his nose while he does deep slow breaths -- so he won't 
    accidentally smell whatever it is and start the whole thing
    all over. Then I try to redirect his thoughts to something else
    and get him away from the grossness as fast as possible.
    
    Lucy
542.6I still do that,and I'm 30-something!POWDML::CORMIERTue Jun 22 1993 12:3911
    Try spraying a piece of cloth with perfume.  I was like that as a
    child, still am!  My parents always had a piece of cloth in the car
    handy in case we were sitting in traffic behind a bus, or drove by a
    newly-fertilized farm, etc.  In the bathroom, hand him the cloth and
    tell him to wave it under his nose.  Seal it in a zip-lock bag after
    use, and keep one handy at all times.  One point - make sure the
    perfume isn't too heavy-smelling.  I always liked tea rose. My parents
    still laugh at how I would always "lose it" when someone in the house
    was cooking eggs. They seem to find it thoroughly amusing, 30 years
    later!
    Sarah
542.7CNTROL::JENNISONJohn 3:16 - Your life depends on it!Tue Jun 22 1993 14:166
	Personally, those perfumed cards make me gag.

	I would think somethink like a scratch and sniff card, with
	some aroma a child would like (bubble gum, strawberry), might work just 
	as well, if not better...
542.8try mouth breatingSALES::LTRIPPWed Jun 23 1993 13:4012
    Two huh?  Can you reason with him at all?
    
    I have tried both with barf times and when AJ gets into coughing fits
    so bad he starts to gag, to tell him to try as hard as he can to try
    and *inhale* quickly.  Almost like  a gasp.  OK if it's gross odor like
    in the potty, you may need something pleasant to be smelling, but I
    have had relatively good luck with the stop and take a breath *through
    your mouth* routine.
    
    What have you got to loose (not pun intended!)
    
    Lyn
542.9why is she gagging herself?MPGS::HEALEYKaren Healey, VIIS Group, SHR3Tue Dec 20 1994 07:5312
    
    Lauren is doing the strangest thing lately!  She is sticking her finger
    down her throat and making herself gag!  It seems like she likes doing
    it!  Yesterday, when I got her at daycare, she kept it up for 10
    minutes, and actually spit up twice!  I'm sure it didn't help that we
    were laughing but she even did it all the way home in the car and I was
    no longer laughing.  Is this an attention getter?  She started this
    over the weekend (yesterday was the first time we laughed and that was
    just because she wouldn't stop!).  Anybody elses kids go through this
    strange stage?  She is just over 1 year old.
    
    Karen 
542.10Mine did that!MKOTS3::NICKERSONTue Dec 20 1994 10:517
    Well, it's great to know that someone else's kid is doing this!  All
    THREE of my boys did the same exact thing when they were that age! 
    Fortunately, they did grow out of it (they're now 11, 9 and 5.5) but it
    drove me nuts!  I really can't remember how long it lasted...too long
    for me!
    
    Linda
542.11ENQUE::ROLLMANTue Dec 27 1994 13:1914

Sarah did this too.  She liked the thrill of gagging, and
the reaction she got.  She stopped after a couple days.
She was 1.

But, just recently, (now 2), she and Big Sister (4) were
riding with my husband.  She started stuffing her hand
down her throat again, with Big Sister egging her on.
She continued until she threw up.

And Big Sister belts out: Daddy!! SARAH HURLED!!!


542.12she stoppedMPGS::HEALEYKaren Healey, VIIS Group, SHR3Wed Dec 28 1994 08:009
    
    Lauren did stop the gagging routine... after a couple of days.
    The first few times she did it, everybody laughed.  But realizing
    this was egging her on, the laughing stopped... instead, I got mad.
    It is amazing how effective a stern voice and glare can be.  She
    hates it when I get mad at her!  Sometimes even a glare will make
    her burst into tears!
    
    Karen