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Conference moira::parenting

Title:Parenting
Notice:Previous PARENTING version at MOIRA::PARENTING_V3
Moderator:GEMEVN::FAIMANY
Created:Thu Apr 09 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1292
Total number of notes:34837

467.0. "Overnight Vacation care" by SSGV01::CHASE () Tue Mar 02 1993 11:16

I would like to open a note on Vacation Babysitting.  We are going away on 
vacation for a week, and went through a lot of trouble to find someone to
car for our children while we are away (family is 2 to 24 hours away).  I 
would like some help on what to provide to a one-week live-in, having never 
a live-in before.

	- What do you pay? (my kids are in school and at an after school 
	program until 6pm at the latest)

	- What info do you leave behind?  I'm drafting a document and don't
	want to forget anything.

thanks,

Barbara

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467.1IMTDEV::COOPTue Mar 02 1993 11:415
    Before leaving, you should work out a "consent" form authorizing 
    medical care within specific limits, if you cannot be reached.
    (I worked mine out in advance with my Pediatrician)
    
     
467.2could you swap with someone?SALES::LTRIPPTue Mar 02 1993 13:0710
    How old are your children, and how many would be the first part of any
    sitter's consideration, IMO.  You said relatives are 2 to "too many"
    hours away, I say 2 hours might be worth considering if you get
    desperate.  Have you considered working out a cooperative agreement
    with someone, perhaps a neighbor might take them for you, and you in
    turn would take their child(ren) during another week while they take a
    vacation?
    
    Just some random thoughts,
    Lyn
467.3just an idea....CALS::HEALEYDTN 297-2426Tue Mar 02 1993 13:398
        My parents used to hire a teacher from school to leave
	us kids with when they went away.  The teacher AND her
	husband stayed at our house for the week.  I don't know what
	they paid them but all food was provided as well.

	Karen

467.4RDVAX::CONNOLLEYTue Mar 02 1993 14:0023
    I tend to overdo, but.... We have a 3 1/2 year old and most times we
    have left him with either of the grandparents (who live in CT).  This
    last weekend trip they couldn't get here till a day later so we left
    him with a 21 year we sometimes have babysit. I paid her the standard
    $3.00/hr and she had him from 6:00 at night until she dropped him at
    daycare the next morning.  
    
    On paperwork to have, I needed a authorization letter for the school
    stating the people who could potentially pick him up (if they weren't
    already on the emergency list they have).  I left a medical consent 
    letter with anyone's name that he was to come in contact with over
    the weekend and if any of our babysitters had to rush him to 
    the hospital it included my mothers numbers in Connecticut just
    in case the kids couldn't make a decision.   I also left the 
    insurance card with explicit instructions on what to do in case
    of an emergency (we have a HMO and you have to get pre-approvals
    for everything).   I also have left my father-in-law with instructions
    on where things are and left copies of our wills just in case something 
    happened to us (the first trip we took was on a plane).
    
    Enjoy yourself on your trip.  As I said, I tend to go over board
    with thoroughness.
     
467.5can you do the sitting at the vacation?SALES::LTRIPPTue Mar 02 1993 15:0812
    Just wondering if it might be possible to take the child(ren) with you
    to the vacation spot and either find someone to care for the children
    at your destination, or if possible could you take your sitter with
    you.
    
    I guess this is why we haven't really had anything that amounts to more
    than just a long weekend away (we took him) or an overnight without AJ
    (he was left with grandparents or husband's sister then)
    
    Many vacation spots have "kids clubs" or sitter services available.
    
    Lyn
467.6TANNAY::BETTELSCheryl, DTN 821-4022, Management Systems ResearchWed Mar 03 1993 03:2919
I have an arrangement with my cleaning lady that she comes when J�rgen and I
have both be travelling at the same time.  My boys are older (12 and 14) so
they just need someone to cook for them and get them off to school in the 
morning.  I pay SF50 (about $35) a night for this.  The only complaint from the
boys is that she expects them to eat too much!!

I call every day and if there is a problem (as I had the first time I did this,
Markus became ill), I have a neighbor who helps out.  She took him to her 
pediatrician and either took him to her house or checked up on him when he
wanted to sleep in his own bed.  Since it would be inappropriate to pay for this
and she doesn't need my sitting services, I bring her a gift.

I leave all food and some money for emergencies.  I leave the telephone number
for all doctors we use, where both J�rgen and I are, our secretaries, the vet
and how to find him, and the school.  The same neighbor is the person on our
emergency card at school and also looks after the dog and the swimming pool
in return for use of the pool in the summer.

Cheryl
467.7My listSSGV01::CHASEWed Mar 03 1993 12:3338

Thanks for all the input so far.  BTW, my kids are 7 & 9.  I've drafted a
document for the sitter with the following information: 

	- Phone numbers - doctor, dentist, school, neighbor, friend,
			parents, emergency (fire/police).

	- Medical Release

	- Daily schedule - wake-up, bus schedule, food preferences, pet 
			 care, what needs to go to school with the kids, 
			 evening routine, "chores" list, bedtime, etc.

	- Misc - Our itinerary, who to call for snow removal, discipline


Did I miss anything?

On payment, what is fair?  A few years ago, I had two young women from 
my daycare at the time come and stay at my house while we went on vacation.
This "team" approach worked well for me, since my girls were a lot
younger then, and I felt better having two people in the house who could
support each other.  Also, these women were young (18-19) but very mature
and had very good references.  I think I paid them something in the
ballpark of $250, which included all day care for one weekend, then care
from 6pm. each night.  They dropped my girls at daycare every day and
picked them up at night.  I also left money with them for groceries and for 
one or two nights out (pizza, etc).

Now the girls are older and require less "hands on" care and more
supervision (homework, chores, packing lunch, dressing, etc).  What would 
be a fair rate?  This would be for one full week, Sunday to Sunday, nights
only during the week.

Thanks,

Barbara
467.8STAR::HORNWed Mar 10 1993 14:5018
Barb,

	When I went to DECUS I had my son's daycare teacher come live at the house
from Sat to Sat and paid her $250.  I also left $50 for food or emergencies which
she did not touch.  We worked this rate out together.  Kyle was 2 3/4s at the time.
Your girls are much more self sufficient, so I'd say you'll have to pay less.  But
then again there are two of them and if they have to go to Girls Scouts Monday,
piano lessons Tuesday, basketball practice Wed, etc. then that needs to be factored
into the rate. Not the gas expense, as much as the running around that all parents 
live with. 

	Find your choice sitters first, start with a max in your mind (say $250) and
work it with them from there.  Our daycare teacher was a college grad who was
living back at home and _grateful_ for a week in a home alone with a child who
goes to bed at 7:30PM and sleeps like a rock 'til 7:00 AM.  A neighbor's college 
kid might be a great find (if they are on break or are commuters).

good luck!