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401.1 | confused... | CALS::HEALEY | DTN 297-2426 | Fri Dec 04 1992 11:35 | 14 |
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Anybody know any more details about this story? I find it
extremely interesting. I'm confused about something:
> Jodie Pope -- who is remarried and whose last name is now Paul --
>then began proceedings to adopt Cameron Keith, while at the same time
>attempting to gain custody of her natural son.
> The Moores fought both actions, losing the first when Paul was
>allowed to adopt Cameron upon a ruling of Georgia's highest court,
>and ultimately winning the second.
What right did the Moores have to fight Jodie Pope/Paul from
adopting Cameron. They weren't Cameron's natural parents.
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401.2 | my guess.... | BOSEPM::DISMUKE | Romans 12:2 | Fri Dec 04 1992 13:00 | 6 |
| BUT they legally adopted him. The intent was that they leave the
hospital that week with an adopted newborn. They got one!
Unfortunately, the wrong one.
-sandy
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401.3 | | MPGS::SHARRINGTON | I've never BEEN so excited! | Fri Dec 04 1992 14:25 | 19 |
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I think .1 was questioning why the Moore's were
fighting Ms. Paul's action to adopt the child she'd been rais-
ing, ie, Cameron (not her natural son). Apparently, when she
found out that Cameron was not her (biological) son, she de-
cided she wanted some formal, legal recognition of their re-
lationship, AS WELL AS trying to get custody of Melvin, her
biological son who was being raised by the Moore's.
Like .1, apparently, I can understand why the
Moore's would be reluctant to give Melvin up to his biologic-
al mother, but I CAN'T understand why they had any interest
whatsoever regarding her adoption of Cameron. That I can see,
they had no relationship of ANY sort to that child.
--- Shawn
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401.4 | Guesses | CSC32::DUBOIS | Love | Fri Dec 04 1992 15:47 | 7 |
| I would guess that they were afraid they would lose both the children.
They probably thought there was a good chance that the other woman would
be awarded her biological son, and didn't want to be left without any child.
They may also have been attempting some leverage on her, so she wouldn't
take away the son they had raised.
Carol
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401.5 | sounds like a big law$uit to me | WEORG::ROGOFF | Barry Rogoff, IDC, NUO1-1/G10, 264-2842 | Fri Dec 04 1992 16:36 | 3 |
| I'd love to be the lawyer handling the lawsuit against the hospital. ;-)
Barry
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401.6 | | KAHALA::FULTZ | ED FULTZ | Mon Dec 07 1992 08:05 | 14 |
| A woman has a child. She comes to the father 9 years later and demands child
support payments. The court orders a blood test. The man is the father.
He is ordered to pay.
How is the above any different than this case? The woman was determined
to be the mother by blood test. It would seem reasonable, to me, for this
to immediately determine that the woman should be granted custody of the
child by blood right. I don't understand (and it scares me) how the court
determined that the woman was not entitled to the child. After all, she
never signed away her parental rights (nor did her husband).
How did the court justify it's decision?
Ed..
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401.7 | | SSGV01::ANDERSEN | Make a note if it ! | Mon Dec 07 1992 09:26 | 5 |
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> How did the court justify it's decision?
Supposedly, its in the best interest of the children involved.
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401.8 | Today on Today | SPARKL::WARREN | | Mon Dec 07 1992 13:05 | 14 |
| Jodie Paul was on the Today show this morning with her lawyer.
According to her lawyer, the Moores did _not_ try to get Cameron (the
boy they were meant to adopt and who has been raised by Paul) when the
switch was discovered. Paul is the only one who wants him and there is
no issue. They _did_ try to keep Melvin but lost to Paul, as the
original article says.
If I were Paul, I'm sure I would try to get my natural son back. (On
the other hand, if were the Moores, I would also try to keep him. What
a terrible situation for everyone involved.) However, Paul did not
seem the least bit sympathetic to how this would affect the Moores.
-Tracy
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401.9 | Who's on first? | AKOCOA::BOLAND | | Mon Dec 07 1992 13:10 | 10 |
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This is confusing. Paul now has legal custody over Cameron (the
child she raised but is not her biological son), and from what .8
said, she also has custody over Melvin. <They _did_ try to keep
Melvin but lost to Paul, as the original article says.> So does this
mean the Moore's have lost the son they (incorrectly) adopted?
I find this so intriguing and it is very curious how the courts react.
/rm
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401.10 | | SPARKL::WARREN | | Mon Dec 07 1992 13:18 | 8 |
| Yes, according to Paul, she has both boys now, but the Moores have
visiting rights with Melvin.
I guess there would be no benefit to taking Cameron from a stable home
and giving him to another couple, with whom he has no real connection.
-Tracy
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401.11 | | CSC32::DUBOIS | Love | Mon Dec 07 1992 14:20 | 7 |
| I would be extremely angry if someone tried to take my child from me
(biologically related or not). I think each child should be allowed to
stay where he was raised, with lots of visitation with the biological
parents (for the one child). As far as I am concerned, taking the child
away from his parents after 9 years is disruptive for the child.
Carol
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401.12 | What does the boy have to say about all this? | MARX::FLEURY | | Tue Dec 08 1992 07:49 | 15 |
| Yikes, what a mess!
I haven't ready anything on this first-hand (just what's been written here).
Has Mrs Paul stated why she want's custody of Melvin? Is it just because he
is her biological son, or is it because she feels the Moore's were abusive
parents? Has anybody heard what the boy's feelings are about all this?
My first reaction is that I agree with .11. The Moore's have devoted 9 years
of their life to raising "their son", and now this total stranger wants to
take him away. If I were Melvin's biological mother, I certainly would want
visitation rights and some assurance that he was being well cared for - but
I don't think I would be so selfish as to try and take him away from the only
parents he has ever known.
- Carol
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401.13 | This is what I saw of Mrs Paul on tv | ALLVAX::CLENDENIN | | Tue Dec 08 1992 16:28 | 9 |
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From what I have seen of all of this and heard the couple that had
Melvin did abuse him, and Melvin has told Mrs Paul's lawyer about
the abuse and that he did not want to go back to the adoptive parents
in Tennessee. He went to visit Mrs Paul last Thanksgiving and told
her what was happening to him and she decided she had to protect her
son and did not send Melvin back.
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401.14 | Who has Melvin now? | CARLIN::FLEURY | | Wed Dec 09 1992 08:30 | 34 |
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I'm sooo confused. Where is Melvin now? Where is Melvin supposed to be?
The article in .0 says that custody of Melvin was granted to the adoptive
parents in Kentucky (the Moores). But most of the replies here - including
those referring to a recent TV interview with Mrs Paul, seem to indicate
custody of Melvin was granted to Mrs Paul.
from .0
> WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The Supreme Court Monday refused to let a Georgia
> woman keep her 9-year-old son, who was mistakenly switched with another
> infant at birth and lived with adopted parents before the mixup was
> discovered in 1988.
> The court, without comment, left intact the ruling of a Fulton
> County, Ga., Superior Court judge that the boy should live with his
> adopted parents in Kentucky.
> .
> .
> .
> Monday's action requires Paul to return Melvin to the family in
> Kentucky he has known for most of his life.
> .
> .
> .
Regarding accusations of abuse - this all sounds very fishy to me.
Accusations of abuse are VERY serious business. But we are hearing these
accusations third hand (Melvin told Pope's lawyer, who told Pope, who
told the media) and were unsubstantiated (according to the article in .0)
by the court. I'm not saying the charges of abuse are true or false - but
I, personally, am suspicious of BOTH the Moores, and Mrs Pope.
All I can say with certainty is I am glad I'm not any of the people involved
in this nightmare.
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401.15 | Last week People Magazine interview | SCAACT::COX | If you have too much to do, get your nap first! | Mon Dec 21 1992 21:32 | 13 |
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I read in a magazine article last week, that there are 14 sworn
affidavits from neighbors, teachers, etc... that Mrs. Moore physically
abused Melvin (one report showed Mr. Moore to witness the abuse, but
the others showed him not present). There is considerable speculation
that Mrs. Moore also emotionally abused him, but more difficult to
prove (except for the witnesses of name calling, etc...).
The interview Mrs. Paul gave stated that she had not intended to
disrupt Melvin's life and keep him, until she was informed of the
abuse.
FWIW
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