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Conference moira::parenting

Title:Parenting
Notice:Previous PARENTING version at MOIRA::PARENTING_V3
Moderator:GEMEVN::FAIMANY
Created:Thu Apr 09 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1292
Total number of notes:34837

308.0. "Family's reaction to adoption (out) of baby" by TANNAY::BETTELS (Cheryl, Eur. Ext. Res. Prg., DTN 821-4022) Wed Sep 16 1992 08:42

Some of you may remember a note I entered in V3 (topic 1282) regarding my
niece who placed her newborn daughter for adoption.  I was worried at the time
as to how to deal with this when showing off pictures of our first grandchild
who was born at approximately the same time.  These are the first great-
grandchidren although Mindi is my parents' natural grandchild whereas my
stepdaugther is a "married-in" :-).

Well, we have been to our big family reunion now and Mindi was certainly not
a problem.  She has completely put the whole thing behind her, finished, etc.
and moved on to other things (she is, by the way, not terribly mature).  She
has little or nothing to do with her father and step mother.

Her step mother though -WHEW!  Everybody was very interested in my pictures
and one was even included in the album that my sister had made.  For Mindi, 
most of the family felt that if she wanted to talk about it or whatever, fine
but otherwise it was nobody's business.

On the other hand, my sister in law arranged the adoption, attended the birth,
took pictures (including the ceasarian scar etc.), keeps in contact with the
new parents and asks them for pictures etc. which she then goes around
forcing upon the family.  Mindi pretends she (her stepmother) doesn't exist.
Many of my brothers and sisters just said "no" when asked if they wanted to
see the pictures.  I was so surprised that I politely sat there and looked
until I was able to get away.  She seems to be intent on playing the active
role of a grandmother in this child's life.

I'm surprised the adoptive parents put up with it.

Opinions?

Cheryl
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308.1CSC32::M_EVANShate is not a family valueWed Sep 16 1992 11:396
    I think that keeping some contact between the adoptive and birth
    parents/grandparents is probably a good thing.  At least this baby will
    know that she has two families that love her enough to want the best
    for her.  
    
    Meg
308.2Open adoptionsTAMARA::SORNsongs and seedsFri Sep 18 1992 16:0725
    I don't like the idea of the stepmother pushing the pictures on people.
    But the good side is that she wants to keep some contact with the
    baby. Mindi isn't mature enough to appreciate this but perhaps in a 
    fews years she will suddenly realize her first baby is out there
    somewhere and will strongly desire to know how it is doing. That path
    has already been set up, and she may be thankful to her stepmother.
    Birth mothers can go through some really hard depression when they
    suddenly realize what they have gone through, and they have no idea
    of how to make contact with the adoptive parents. They usually don't
    want to see or have a relationship with the child, they just want to
    know the child is okay. This may happen to Mindi eventually.
    
    As for the adoptive parents, they probably made some agreement as to
    what kind of contact they would allow. Again, the benefit of some 
    contact, even if it is just a letter once a year, is that when their
    child is ready, that path is there. 
    
    Many adoptions are very open. I met a birth mother who keeps a picture
    of her son, who she gave up for adoption at birth, on her desk at work!
    She freely answers questions about him, and calls him "her son". She
    doesn't see him, but gets reports on him 4 times a year through the 
    adoption agency. So Mindi's stepmother may feel this is all very natural
    if the adoption was extremely open. 
    
    Cyn
308.3UnbelievableEOS::ARMSTRONGFri Sep 25 1992 14:508
    As an adoptive parent, I find the behaviour of 'grandma'
    way out of line.  Fine...maintain contact with the adoptive
    parents if they agree.  But keep it private.

    Does she do other things that must be humiliting to her step-daughter?

    Does she insist on Mindy showing off her scar?
    bob
308.4Yes, my sister in law is definitely "out of bounds"TANNAY::BETTELSCheryl, DTN 821-4022, Management Systems ResearchMon Sep 28 1992 04:5030
Sandi, my sister-in-law, hated Mindi from the day she married my brother.  She
brought two daughters into the marriage with her.  She and my brother have a 
wonderful relationship and Sandi's two daughters fit in fine.  Mindi and her
step sisters also get along very well together but not Mindi and Sandi.  

Mindi ran away several times to escape the abuse she sufferd at Sandi's hands
and tried living with her natural mother which also didn't work.  Mindi's
mother has no means of supporting herself.  Finally, at age 19, Mindi ran off
with a young man whom she married.  A few months later she was pregnant and
a few months after that she was divorced.  She came back to her home town to
have the baby.

This is where Sandi got into the act and decided to "take over" the baby.  Mindi
doesn't have the character yet to stand up to some one so much older.  The
best she can do is to run away.  She doesn't seem to want any attention about
the baby and seems to wish to put the whole thing behind her.  This is why
Sandi's showing the pictures around with the scar and so on right in front of
Mindi seemed so tasteless.  Mindi refuses to even talk to her or to have 
anything to do with her.  

The one point where Mindi did stand up for herself was to refuse to let Sandi
adopt the baby herself.

By the way, it is difficult for Mindi to go to any of her relations for support.
Her grandmother (Mindi's mother's mother) who is very Catholic has disowned her 
for placing the baby with someone else. My family is daunting to say the least
since everyone is so terribly self suffficient and, to be honest, rather self
centered.  Sad story.

ccb