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265.1 | try again! | DEMON::DEMON::MARRAMA | | Thu Aug 13 1992 10:04 | 15 |
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Dear Basenoter,
I am extremely sorry about your loss. I have not experienced this
pain, and I hope not to. But, a very close friend of mine did.
She lost her baby boy 3 years ago, and now has a 16 month old girl.
She went through alot. Her baby died when she was 9 months pregnant.
She had to deliver it, and never got to see him or hold him.
She waited a little while, but wanted to try again and with the help
of her family and friends, had the courage to try again, and
succeed. She is now due for another one in March!!!
Good luck on whatever you decide!
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265.2 | | GRANMA::MWANNEMACHER | Let's get to it | Thu Aug 13 1992 11:25 | 9 |
| Leslie,
I too am sorry about your loss. The second child will never replace
the first child, but you will love the child as much as you did the
first.
Best Wishes,
Mike
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265.3 | Each is so different | ICS::NELSONK | | Thu Aug 13 1992 12:31 | 26 |
| I applaud your courage in entering this note.
In a way, I think I would proceed with my "original" plans. In
other words, if I'd always wanted 2 kids, then I would go ahead
with another pregnancy, assuming that my spouse/SO was OK with
that decision, too. It sounds like you've taken a lot of time
to grieve and reconcile yourself to your loss, so if you feel
that you can embark on another pregnancy, then do so.
I think it's inevitable that you will find yourself comparing
your second child with your first one, at least once in a while.
Thank God, my kids are both alive and well, and from time to
time I find myself comparing their development -- not in a negative
way, but in the sense of, one did this earlier/later than the other.
To sort of track their progress, so to speak. But I can tell you
that your next child(ren) will be as unique as the first one was.
You will love them for themselves, and cherish the qualities that
make them so individual.
Good luck in whatever you decide.
In thought,
Kate
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265.4 | A little more info... | JUPITR::LCLARK | | Thu Aug 13 1992 16:11 | 11 |
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Comments from Basenoter:
Please understand that I am presently pregnant with my second child,
(Due in the latter part of November). So I have already made the
decision. But I need to know from those of experience, how did they
adjust to the new child.
Leslie
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265.5 | I'm very protective | AKOCOA::TRIPP | | Thu Aug 13 1992 16:26 | 21 |
| Leslie,
How are you doing these days?
I found I was extremely nervous that "somethign would go wrong" during
my pregnancy with AJ. Consider that Stacy died in utero, I had
millions of reasons to believe the same thing would happen again. Then
when he was born I think I "hovered" over him while he slept, being
afraid he would become a SIDS statistic. Everytime the doctor ordered
any kind of just routine test I simply go into a panic. I keep
thinking that something terrible might be found. In a nutshell I seem
to be probably, a little more protective of him. I guess I can't count
how many times I told people, this is MY son and he WILL get the best!
Or this is MY child, and you will have to deal with ME when you think
of him. (did someone forget to remind me they cut the cord 5-1/2 years
ago?!?!) Funny thing, I feel his pain, shortcomings and emotions probably
as much as he does.
Leslie call me off line, let's chat
Lyn
244-6677
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265.6 | How my sister handled this situation | CRONIC::ORTH | | Thu Aug 13 1992 17:36 | 33 |
| My sister's first child, a girl, was born about 5 weeks premature, and
died after 3 days. Devastating as it was, they both (sis and husband)
grew closer, and did decide to have another. The one thing my sis
wanted to avoid, is being due at the same time that Jessica had died.
She was afraid that she couldn't have handled giving birth at the same
time her first one had died. They had a healthy baby girl 22.5 months
after Jessica died. They had mixed feelings about it being another
girl, and felt it was harder in some ways (felt like a replacement),
and easier in others (because they sort of wanted a daughter). They
found they had a tough time not calling the second child (Jennifer) by
her sister's name, Jessica. They still do at times, and Jennifer is now
2.25 years old. My sister is pregnant agian, now, and due in January.
Thing she found hardest was, after Jennifer was born, she would often
encounter those well meaning strangers who would look at the baby and
say, "Is she your first?" Although a well-meaning and simple question,
it caused her great anxiety. She never knew whether to say "no", thus
opening up the possibility of having to explain to a total stranger
that her first baby died, which would cause this person then to feel
awful, or to say "yes", thus causing herself to feel very disloyal to
Jessica. She never did settle on a pat way to answer, and answered each
time as an individual case. She said, though, it was very difficult.
There has been no feelings by either my sister or her husband, or by
rest of the family, that Jennifer is a "replacement". She is her own
person, and loved for that, and we still occasionally grieve for the
lost of the first little life.
I think you may find that once the child is born, that these things
just sort of naturally straighten themselves out, and the concerns may
vanish. This is what happened to my sis.
--dave--
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265.7 | my cousin's perspective | MR4DEC::SPERA | | Thu Aug 13 1992 17:44 | 16 |
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I can't speak from personal experience but I have a cousin who had two
girls after losing a boy just before her due date. I do remember one
comment she made many years later. It was something to the effect that
she felt the loss but that if her son had not died she would not have
had that particular first daughter (i.e. that unique child conceived at
that particular time..she felt she would have waited longer between
pregnancies). She so loved her daughter she could not have imagined life
without her and she felt sad to think that she might not have had her.
You never forget. You simply take the best life has to offer and
cherish it.
How wonderful that there is a new life growing in you and that you will
be able to live your life so full of love.
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265.8 | my explaination to strangers is... | AKOCOA::TRIPP | | Fri Aug 14 1992 11:31 | 33 |
| Since the topic of how to answer questions of Is this your first? Or
in my case many times the question is "is he your only child?" I sort
of play it by ear. I ask myself do I really want to "spill my guts" to
this relative stranger? If I'm going to have a "polite" or distant
relationship with the questioner I simply answer yes. If I feel I may
be in a longer relationship with the person, i.e. a new coworker,
neighbor, churchgoer etc, I tell them that I HAD a daughter before him
who was still born, but AJ is the light of my life and I love him more
than anything in the world, and that he is special, in a matter of fact way
(Yes, sometimes the mood may be down and I still fight a few tears with
these conversations). There is nothing to be embarassed or ashamed
for. I too feel in many ways what happened was best. I would never
have had two children 20 months apart, and worse yet could never have
coped with all of AJ's many hospitalizations with a toddler at home. I
just wouldn't have done justice to either child.
We have not yet addressed with AJ the fact that he *has* a sister.
Usually visits to the cemetary are limited to my husband and I,
sometimes my mother inlaw will come with us, since their property backs
up to the cemetary, and there is a nice bike path through it. Maybe in
a couple years when he is better able to understand it.
We did a trial of explaining cemetaries, and death of relatives a
couple months ago. We went to the place where my parents are buried
and ended up confusing him totally. He has no concept that he has
another set of "grammie-grampie", but they are no longer alive. I
believe he left the cemtery believing that the grammie-grampie he knows
were dead and buried in that place. We went to visit them that night
to reassure him they were OK.
Keep up your faith, this is what has helped me in many ways.
Lyn
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265.9 | Daniel and Charlotte | KAOFS::M_FETT | alias Mrs.Barney | Fri Aug 21 1992 09:23 | 35 |
| I would say that my experiences and feelings are very much like Lyn's.
After Daniel (died in utero at 32 weeks, delivered a week later). I
was "hell bent" on having a baby. Through the second pregnancy I
was constantly on edge - some days seemed to be a replay of the
previous pregnancy (I has pregnant from Aug 90 to March 91 with Daniel,
and Aug 91 to May 92 with Charlotte). The first pregnancy was "text
book" just like the second, so I was not anymore re-assured that things
were going fine with Charlotte. I was so stressed near the end
that the doc made me leave work 5 weeks early.
In the first few weeks after Charlotte was born I'd often get
incredibly emotional, being so overjoyed to have her yet still mourning
for Daniel.
I found that having Charlotte took the bitter edge off of my grief
for Daniel - that feeling that other women succeed in having many
children and yet my first and only was taken away from me in what
seemed a senseless death (a knot in the cord).
When I told everyone we'd be trying again last summer some said that
another baby won't replace the first. I responded that I knew that
certainly, but there was two types of grief we suffer - the loss
of Daniel (something that can never change) and the loss of being
a parent. That second loss was something we could possibly overcome.
And just like Lyn said, I seem to have the occasional irrational
thoughts about how easily such a delicate little being could be
damaged or destroyed; whether it be a SIDS death or a car accident -
I feel so incredibly helpless in trying to prevent anything from
happening to her - much like I did to prevent Daniel's death. My
husband has commented on this - I'm just going to have to accept
this day to day (moment to moment) feeling of helplessness. I also
feel sure that this is a direct result of having lost the first -
I would have been much more confident in the survivabiliy of a
baby into adulthood had not something so trivial as an umbilical
knot not occurred.
Monica
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265.10 | not entirely under our control | TNPUBS::STEINHART | Laura | Mon Aug 24 1992 10:22 | 11 |
| Even though I've never suffered such a loss, I am well aware how
fragile our lives are. I felt invulnerable before the birth of my
daughter, then I realized how much we need each other and how easily we
might be parted.
When I think about this now, I can only pray for our wellbeing and
trust that we will be taken care of by a higher power.
AND I use seatbelts and check my tires and brakes. -;)
L
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