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Conference moira::naturism

Title:Naturism
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Moderator:GENRAL::KILGORE
Created:Tue Jan 26 1988
Last Modified:Wed May 07 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:457
Total number of notes:3687

208.0. "No TVA land for nude recreation?" by SHRFAC::BICKES () Mon Dec 04 1989 06:27

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     A story that was in the Middlesex News Saturday  12-2-89,
      Chattanooga Tenn. A proposal that the Tennessee Valley Authority
      set aside some land for nude sunbathing is getting a chilly
      reception from the federal utility. The American Sunbathing
      Association of Kissimmee, Fla. which boasts about 35,000 members
      nationwide, has launched a drive to open up federal land for
      sunbathing in the buff. The group has hired a lobbyist for
      $65,000 and even established a political action committee called
      NUDEPAC to carry the nudist case to Washington, D.C.. One of the
      agencies the group wants to talk to is TVA which has more than
      400,000 acres available for public use. But David Pack,manager
      of operations and maintence for TVA's public lands, said the
      agency isn't ready to allow nude sunbathing on any of it."We
      view such activity as in violation of local ordinance and
      take the proper steps to get local authorities to correct
      it."  " The naked truth is that we don'nt intend to write regulations
      permitting nude sunbathing." Park Service Public Affairs Director
      George Berklacy said,,,WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK..
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208.1SHOCKING! That's WHAT!HPSTEK::SHERMANMon Dec 04 1989 13:2124
    Excuse it, but I couldn't resist it!
    
    With all that land, and I'm sure all that curruption which go there
    from normal political activities, I can't see what's so shocking about
    setting aside (or whatever they would call it) a spot for people to do
    what people did a couple of continent shifts ago.
    
    You know what started all this tsk tsk stuff?  The Natural History
    Museums, that's what!  You see they distorted the view of the Cave
    People when they made all those dioramas (or however you spell 'em).
    They put skins on the cavepeople!  Stuff and nonsense.  
    
    I can prove it:  Ever see that beautiful PBS program called "Nomads of
    the Rain Forest?"  Everyone absolutely naked and runnig around even
    without shoes!  And, when you look around there weren't any more
    children per square foot than in our so-called civilization.
    
    Anyone hereabouts who missed it can make arrangements to borrow my
    tape.  (But bring it BACK!)
    
    That TENNVAL has been a thorn in my side for a long time.  Shame on
    them is all I can say.
    
    Stan/
208.3De Fault is with the TVA!HPSTEK::SHERMANThu Dec 07 1989 11:4749
    De Fault is with the TVA!  Default is with US.

    Similarly, I was watching a TV show on PBS (I think) last night.  They
    were spending a lot of time discussing how parents should speak to
    children about sex.

    Then they showed some fun games they thought up to slide the mommas and
    the poppas and their follow-ups into the subject.  

    Then I began to recall a few beach scenes (one in which I was a bit
    player), when the beautiful kids were all completely occupied with the
    serious business of having a good time.  It mattered not whether they
    were playing volleyball with guys or girls, they were playing volley
    ball and were having fun.

    Bet their parents don't have problems talking to them!

    Now about he TVA.  I wonder how they would phrase a law that forces
    human beings into the non default status?  You have a point there.

    Think of a few other default state they would have to address (or
    undress) to be consistent: Breathing air DIRECTLY through the nose? 
    Cover it up, of course.  

    Contact glasses would be required, only they would make them opaque (as
    their brains).  Not so you couldn't see out, but so nobody could see
    IN!

    Since our Constitution states that everyone has equal opportunity in
    this country, I presume that also applies to all parts of everyone.  If
    the face can hang out everywhere (after all a breathing tube could be
    required, then we could all wear masks).  

    Hence the legal term: "Magnum Suspendium!" or "Let it All Hang Out!"

    With that tradition, what grounds does the TVA have (except those
    thousands of acres)?

    Stan/



    I can hardly wait for the rest of them.

    Wonder if that could be considered a point of law?  Which came first
    the person or the person's clothes?  Let's all go down the the
    maternity ward and see!


208.4When the Authority are a concern do it anywayUSWAV1::REIDSat Dec 16 1989 17:0916
    Well you cant always change the mind over night. So do what I do.
    Go out and use the area for nude recreation, stay to the more remote
    areas and just do it. I have the same problem nude back packing
    in the White Mountains of New Hampshire. I am  the Bare Back Packing
    SIG leader for the New England Naturists. I always wanted to back
    pack nude in the white mountains. In New Hampshire public nudity
    is a no no and even though you are on federal land where therre
    is no specific law saying you cant go nude I think, you can still
    have problems if you do not use some level of common sense. Like
    stay away form the high traaffic areas. 
    So far after three seasons and getting ready for my fourth season
    I have not had any problems on any of my trips. If you are intrested
    in more information refer to note 130 I am using that note to create
    an awareness of nude back packing in the White Mountains and how
    to join me and those who go with me if you are intrested.
    John