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    I got a 'World Guide...' through mail order.  Publisher's Clearing
    House.
    
    Spence

	I own a copy of the World Guide, but I saw a note in rec.nude 
	mentioning an updated version that's supposed to be released 
	Spring '88. Anybody have info on it's status (i.e. a release 
	date, where one can be obtained, etc)?

	Any help would be appreciated.

	Thanks!

	Marc

    fyi...
    
    I just called the Paperback Booksmith in the Pheasant Lane Mall
    (Nashua) and Wordsworth (Harvard Square, Cambridge).  The World
    Guide is not here yet, but it was suppose to be released in April.
    
    B.
    

    New World Guide has been Delayed a little.
    
    Spoke to the Naturist Oshkosh Group at Akiba this past June. They
    are working on the new issue, but it will be delayed, perhaps until
    next hear.
    
    Stan/ 

    Any word on when the new World Guide will be out?
    
    
                                          Paul
    

The latest issue of _Nude & Natural_, 9.3, reports that the publisher of 
the original _World Guide_ has decided that they will *not* be publishing
the new WG -- too "risky".  Therefore, The Naturist Society will be
publishing it themselves, which means yet another delay.

The same issue includes a mail-in site report form for making updates.

	-Neil

    To expand a bit on Neil, the original publisher was bought out by
    Random House, whose corporate types decided it was too risky.  I got
    the impression that there wouldn't have been a problem with the
    original folks.

From: [email protected] (Dave Herberg)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: World Guide to Nude Recreation (1 of 2) LONG
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                            WORLD GUIDE TO
                      NUDE BEACHES AND RECREATION
                         PART 1: UNITED STATES

This is an update to some of the information in Lee Baxandall's 
excellent book, "World Guide to Nude Beaches and Recreation", Harmony 
Books, 1981.  I've confined my comments to places I've actually visited 
or tried to, and would like this update information to contribute to a 
new "World Guide" if one ever comes out.  The page numbers refer to 
where the recreation location appears in the book, and the year included 
in each description is when I personally last visited the site.

My main criticism of the book is in the lack or inadequacy of directions 
to the places.  Jayson Loam says it best in his excellent guides "Hot 
Springs and Pools of the North/South West" (Wilderness Press, 1985 & 
1986): Getting There is Everything.  The "World Guide" could take some 
clues from the detail he gives in his maps and directions.  There are 
also some place names that are misspelled, or in casual use and 
therefore do not appear even on detailed local maps.  I would prefer a 
trade-off in favor of detailed maps to each site, and fewer "soul-
stirring" photographs, and more captions identifying the location of the 
photos.  But this criticism in no way detracts from the importance of 
this book in finding outlets for the traveling naturist.  The next 
"World Guide" should be better than ever.

Unless specifically noted, the following areas are not established for 
social nudity.  Most are deserted areas where you can participate 
naturally if you are discreet.

Page 29
Reservations for California State Parks are now (1989) made through 
MISTIX at (800) 444-7275, and no longer through Ticketron.  There is a 
$3.75 fee for each reservation they make or cancel.

Page 30
BLACK'S BEACH: (1980) One of the few places that I've visited where 
social nude use is established.  Directions as given are OK.  Plenty of 
people enjoying the sun, but a few telephotoists on top of the cliff.  
The photographers were getting much more worked up than the mellow 
beachgoers.

Page 34
BIG CALIENTE HOT SPRINGS: The road doubles back at Juncal campground, 
not Jimcal.  Big Caliente can reach 115 degrees, which for me is 
uncomfortably hot.  The valve to control the water temperature merely 
controls the rate of new spring water into the pool.  When a pool to 
hold 25 is too hot, it stays too hot for a long time.  But there is 
another valve that allows the water to spray up into the air, cool off, 
and shower you.  Recommended!  We were there on the July 4 weekend 
(1989) around dusk, and there was one other textiled group there 
already.  When they left, we had the place to ourselves.  There is a 
tiny creek nearby for cooling off, if you're there during the day.  The 
nearest campground is near the Pendola ranger station, about 3 
miles.away.  This is desert.  It gets hot, and no drinking water is 
provided at any of the campgrounds, so bring your own.

LITTLE CALIENTE HOT SPRINGS: The locked gate is now (1989) just past the 
hot tub at the ridge where you say to leave the road.  So you can drive 
right to the spring.  The trail from the parking area begins with wood-
retained steps to the right.  Don't be fooled by many other trails 
heading off in other directions.  The spring is a bit hot (107 degrees) 
for daytime soaking.  But right behind Mono campground is a seasonal 
runoff reservoir for cool dipping.  Save the spring for the evening.  It 
holds up to 6 close friends.  Again, there is no drinking water here or 
at the campground, so bring your own.

Page 35
LAS CRUCES HOT SPRINGS:  The trail goes *up*.  Don't be fooled by jeep 
trails to either the left or the right.  And it's no mile to the spring.  
Even with carrying a one-year-old, and with a three-year-old walking 
along beside, it only took 12 minutes.  Maybe it just seems like a mile 
from how steep it is.  The main pool is only 2 feet deep, with a mud-
mud-muddy bottom and cloudy water.  The upper grotto is not any 103 
degrees, but closer to 94.  Its bottom has a lot of sharp rocks.

MORE MESA: Directions OK, and description still valid (1989).  Nice 
spot, but cold water.  Established for social nude use; people start 
really showing up just after noon, with a two to one ratio of men to 
women.  Take your bike to the eucalyptus trees, or even 4-wheel.  Most 
people walk.

Page 37
All beaches in Santa Cruz County, north of the city limits, allow 
discreet nude recreation.  But they are typically cold and windy.  
Litter is a real problem here, especially after July 4.  Please bring an 
extra garbage bag, and help clean up after the slobs.

BONNY DOON BEACH: This beach is where Bonny Doon Road meets the coast 
Route 1.  The hole-in-the-wall is now (1986) gone.  Or rather, the whole 
wall is gone.  This makes the two pieces of beach one large area now, 
but with less protection from the wind.  Still plenty of beachgoers.  
This is Santa Cruz's most popular social nude beach.  Winter waves can 
wash all the sand away, leaving the surf crashing on rocks, where there 
once was a beach.  It always comes back in the summer, though.

FOUR MILE BEACH: (1985) This is mostly a textiled hangout.  I've only 
seen 2 nude people (both men) ever on this beach.  But it is big, so 
feel free to liberate the south end.

PANTHER BEACH: (1989) The nude area is through the sea arch to the next 
beach to the left.  Again, very low nude usage and a lot of fully 
clothed visitors.  This beach is probably the closest to the road of any 
of them, so its access trail is the steepest.

Page 38
BAKER'S BEACH: (1987) This is strictly a gay scene with open sexplay.  
Not my favorite. It's a lot easier to reach from the west side of the 
beach, away from the Golden Gate Bridge.  There's a good size parking 
lot for the large textiled crowd that uses it.  Back east, toward the 
bridge, is the nude end.  But don't expect privacy or women.

You can add a spa or resort to the list.  LUPIN NATURIST CLUB, P.O. Box 
1274, Los Gatos, CA.  Phone (408) 353-2250.  This private club is 53 
years old.  Be sure to phone first, as they sustained some heavy damage 
in the big earthquake, did not reopen until late 1989.  The outdoor pool 
cracked open, and the clubhouse, restaurant, and several residences 
slipped off their foundations.

Page 42
YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK: The cliff above the Ahwanee Hotel really does 
work as a giant natural solar panel.  The tiny pool (room for 2) where 
the flow collects is surprisingly comfortable, for anyone who has 
ventured into any other mountain stream.  There is plenty of space on 
the surrounding rock ledge for sunning and enjoying the view.

Page 46
CONUNDRUM HOT SPRINGS holds particularly warm memories for me.  Here was 
my first exposure to social nudity, and I've been hooked ever since.  
The mortar-and-stone main pool has held 25, but 6 is more like it.  The 
water is piped down from a shallow pool for one or two that is a touch 
warmer than the main pool, around 100.  Watch out for sunburn!  There is 
serious UV at 11,200 feet.  There is a tiny sign with the number of the 
forest service road (128) as you leave Castle Creek toward Conundrum.  I 
was last there in 1980, so your description is valid.  The well-marked 
trail leads for eight steep miles past century-old mining cabin ruins 
and present-day avalanche courses to an old hut, which marks the closest 
you can camp to the springs.  The trail then leads farther up the valley 
and crosses the stream just before the tub.  Another nice route is to 
park at the East Maroon Creek trailhead, almost to Maroon Lake on the 
Maroon Creek road.  Follow East Maroon Creek to the end, bearing left, 
and cross both Triangle and Copper Passes, and then drop 1 mile down to 
the springs.  This makes for a loop trip that lets you see twice as much 
of the Maroon-Snowmass Wilderness.  The shortest but steepest path is 
from Gothic, hiking up to Copper lake, then turning up and right over 
Copper Pass.  In the early 70's Copper Lake was a fine destination for 
4-wheelers, but now the Wilderness boundary extends almost to Gothic.

Page 57
GRAY SAND BEACH: Although a half mile hike on a steep trail from where 
you must leave the car, there is still a surprising amount of visitor 
traffic, all textiled.  When most of them had left, we liberated the 
beach (1978).  It's excellent, but not exactly a nude beach.

DIAMOND HEAD BEACH: Forget it.  All textiled.  Not much of a beach 
anyway.

MOKU'AUIA ISLAND has 12 acres and a nice beach that faces the mainland.  
Nowadays (1989) entry is prohibited during the nesting season.  But 
Malaekahana State Park has gotten steadily more developed 
over the past few years, and correspondingly more crowded.  Clothes 
compulsory, of course.  Since everyone on the crowded Malaekahana beach 
can see the beach on the islet, the days of its casual nude use may be 
over.  We'll see what happens with Little Makena Beach, but I'm not 
optimistic.

Here's a new one for you on O'ahu: MANOA FALLS.  Take TheBus to Paradise 
Park at the head of Manoa valley.  Don't go in the park, but keep 
walking up the road.  In a quarter mile the road stops and a well-marked 
trail leads a mile up to the plunge pool at the base of the gentle fall.  
Casual nude use due to light visitation, but not yet established.  
You'll have to liberate it each time.  I do.

Page 60
HANAKAPI'AI BEACH: I first went here in 1978, but by 1988 the Na Pali 
traffic has gotten so heavy that the area is now completely textiled.  
The surf and riptides make this beach extremely dangerous.  Several 
people have lost their lives swimming here.  Visitation is now so heavy 
that even the side trip to Hanakapi'ai fall is clothes compulsory, 
unless you are into heavy exhibitionistic liberating.  Incidentally, the 
beach is a very long 2 miles from the trailhead, and the fall an even 
longer 2 miles from the beach.  I haven't been on down to Kalalau (note 
spelling: not Kalalua), but I've heard that nude use continues there.

WAIMEA CANYON: These directions are baloney.  The parking area just 
inside the park for the Kukui trail is some 12 miles inland.   Needless 
to say, I was unable to find this site (1988) to comment.

POLIHALE STATE PARK: These directions are fine.  You can camp at the 
north end of the beach.  The southward expanse of this huge beach is not 
established as nude, it's just so huge that you won't meet anybody, 
ever.  This place is hot, and there is no water (or any facilities, for 
that matter) away from the campground (1988).

MAKENA BEACH: These directions are fine.  Little Makena is a terrific 
beach with lots of social nude use (1983).  It also has the most 
balanced male to female ratio of anywhere I've been, outside of Europe.  
This beach is now (1989) the focus of a statewide battle over the legal 
status of the nude use.  The Hawai'i Department of Land and Natural 
Resources is expected to issue a destructive decree any day now, and ban 
nudity on all State beaches.  Which in Hawai'i is all beaches.  Big 
Makena beach is the site of a future megaresort: I'll bet the developers 
have a stake in throwing the skins out, too.  They really should see the 
money being made in Yugoslavia at nude resorts!

SEVEN SACRED POOLS: The name is pure turn-of-the-century tourist hype.  
These pools were never sacred to the indigenous Hawaiians, nor are there 
even seven of them!  Fortunately there are even more.  These directions 
are fine.  There are plenty of pools to go around.  They are large and 
they are deep.  Plenty of opportunity for nude high diving.  Lots of 
water is flowing in the waterfalls that join the pools.  But again, nude 
use is not established, so you have to be discreet.

Page 104
You left out LAKE POWELL.  I know, I know, it runs against my ecological 
grain, too.  But rent a houseboat for a week or bring your own.  There 
are 90 major side canyons to explore, all filled with 80 degree water in 
August.  Surely you can find some hollow to liberate!  Or skinny-hike up 
the dry side creeks and sun on the rocks.  As on other Federal property, 
if the nudity is discreet, it's legitimate.

Page 108
OLYMPIC HOT SPRINGS: I went up there (1985) on the spur of the moment, 
and sure enough, the road is blocked 2 miles from the spring.  It was 
too late in the day to walk up there.   But I expect closing the road 
has cut down on the trash.  I'll try again sometime.

From: [email protected] (Dave Herberg)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: World Guide to Nude Recreation (2 of 2) LONG
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                            WORLD GUIDE TO
                      NUDE BEACHES AND RECREATION
                            PART 2: EUROPE

This is an update to some of the information in Lee Baxandall's 
excellent book, "World Guide to Nude Beaches and Recreation", Harmony 
Books, 1981.  I've confined my comments to places I've actually visited 
or tried to, and would like this update information to contribute to a 
new "World Guide" if one ever comes out.  The page numbers refer to 
where the recreation location appears in the book, and the year included 
in each description is when I personally last visited the site.

My main criticism of the book is in the lack or inadequacy of directions 
to the places.  Jayson Loam says it best in his excellent guides "Hot 
Springs and Pools of the North/South West" (Wilderness Press, 1985 & 
1986): Getting There is Everything.  The "World Guide" could take some 
clues from the detail he gives in his maps and directions.  There are 
also some place names that are misspelled, or in casual use and 
therefore do not appear even on detailed local maps.  I would prefer a 
trade-off in favor of detailed maps to each site, and fewer "soul-
stirring" photographs, and more captions identifying the location of the 
photos.  But this criticism in no way detracts from the importance of 
this book in finding outlets for the traveling naturist.  The next 
"World Guide" should be better than ever.


                                EUROPE

Our trip to all these spots was in 1982, so even my information is out 
of date now.  But it will at least serve as a sanity check on the book's 
information.  Unless specifically noted, the following areas are all 
established for social nudity.  Unlike in the Unites States, social 
nudity in Europe is a collective activity with its own allocated areas, 
and a good balance between the sexes.  Either there is a crowded nude 
resort or beach, or it is a textiled area.  There doesn't seem to be the 
empty-wilderness style of naturism as in the U.S.

Page 145
On SJAELLAND ISLAND (July), we tried to find the nude beach in the 
Troldeskoven Forest near Tisvilde, but none of the place names mentioned 
on the book were to be found, either on our map or on street signs.  We 
ate our lunch in the dunes with our coats on as the wind whistled by.  
Any nudist would have been insane.  Well, we found one walking around 
the parking lot as we were leaving.  Another insanity case was actually 
in the water.  This place is freezing!

Page 151
We visited LACANAU OCEAN in May.  There was no need to ask directions 
for the Route Allemaigne, even though it wasn't marked as such; we just 
followed the road south from town staying near the shore.  The old 
German bunkers marked the spot.  The bunkers have slid down the dunes 
over the years, and lately have been painted bright colors with 
graphics.  One still had a rusting machine gun inside.  It seems as 
though the whole southwest of France is one giant beach.  You can walk 
for miles here.  In May, the water was still too cool to enjoy; I'm not 
sure if it warms up by August.  Except for a couple of other families 
enjoying that expanse in the nude, we were the only visitors on that 
Friday.

Page 152
PORT LEUCATE has a billboard at the edge of town publicizing nude 
recreation, but we couldn't find either Aphrodite Village or Ulysses.  
There are miles of beach and the weather is still miserable at the end 
of May.  Maybe that's why there was nobody around to ask directions from 
or why all the restaurants in town were closed.  We spent the day at the 
beach unliberated.

Page 155
Naturism in France can be big business as evidenced at LE CAP D'AGDE.  
Directions aren't needed since there are exit signs off the highway.  
I'm not into such grand resorts as this, so we only reconnoitered the 
area , ate dinner at their restaurant, and left.  The few naturists we 
saw were only out at the beach and pool; everywhere else they were 
clothed.  In other respects this resort looks like any other at Miami or 
Waikiki.  May was probably too early for the best beach weather.

The writeup in the book for LES CALANQUES was mouth watering.  But the 
directions to get there were garbage.  I got to the University all 
right, but couldn't find anyone who knew where they were.  I started 
walking toward the sea from the back side of the University anyway, but 
when I reached the top of the first mountain ridge, I could see several 
more ridges stretching out for miles into the distance before reaching 
the water.  I would still like to go there sometime.  Could someone 
provide better directions, or maybe a map?

Page 159
UNI-SEE is actually called Stadtsee on the maps.  Once I got the name 
translated, it was a snap to find.  But I had to do a lot of asking 
before I got the name right.  This place is a terrific find.  The lake 
is warm in July, and the nude crowds on the east (not southeast) even 
have a volleyball court set up.  The rest of the lake is topless.

Page 167
CORFU:  I checked out the north end of Corfu on a Thursday in June, and 
found it lightly populated, but by clothed natives.  We discreetly 
liberated a section of the beach as far as we could get from the others, 
but this area is definitely not established.

Similarly, the southern coast of the PELOPONNESE has a few isolated 
strands for discreet dipping, but nothing established.

Page 172
We went out to the beautiful island of CAPRI in June  Breathtakingly 
clear water, plenty of toplessness, but no nudity.

OSTUNI BEACH near Brindisi is similarly not established, but you can 
walk away from the larger crowds to skinnydip.  But long distance 
beachwalking is popular among the clothed set, too, so don't count on 
complete privacy.  The pollution you mention results in thick seaweed 
growth on all the rocks.  Maybe I didn't actually find the actual nude 
beach described in the book, since it gave no directions at all.

Page 173
CALLANTSOOG:  Not only is this beach established, it is crowded.  We 
went in at St. Maartenzee, and walked over.  This time the directions 
were fine.  The only facilities are in the textiled section.  I actually 
went swimming in the North Sea.  But pollution strikes here, too.  Our 
legs developed a rash afterwards, even though we showered off.  This 
doesn't seem to faze the hundreds of determined Dutch naturists.

Page 178
OQUES BEACH:  This is a possibility, but it was so cold that absolutely 
nobody else was there (May).  This place wasn't that easy to find, 
either.

The beaches at PENISCOLA were textiled as far as you could see in both 
directions from town.  Could it be that some directions were missing 
from this description, too?

Page 190
The Adriatic coast of Yugoslavia really is a spectacular nudist 
attraction.  Every resort, it seemed, had a naturist section or was 
entirely devoted to naturism.  I couldn't find some of the areas that 
were mentioned in the book, but there were so many other nude 
campgrounds and resorts that it didn't matter.  The places were all so 
crowded that it seemed like the world was aching to get naked, and 
willing to pay to do it.

Page 192
KOVERSADA is gigantic.  Beaches, sailing, tennis, windsurfing, miniature 
golf, all nude.  The "beach" was unpleasantly sharp limestone, but the 
heavenly bodies out enjoying it anyway made up for it.

Page 194
PAG ISLAND:  The combination of the book's directions and my map made it 
very difficult to find anything on Pag.  But I eventually did: the sandy 
beach at the start of the Luna Peninsula was completely textiled.  Heavy 
use, but no nude use at all.  Once I found the Strasko nude campground, 
I was impressed with the size.  They don't have much fresh water on Pag, 
so they turn off the supply to the showers almost all the time.  The 
snack bar was cheap and terrific.  As at Koversada, the "beach" was 
unpleasantly sharp limestone, but the heavenly bodies out enjoying it 
anyway made up for it.

DALMATIAN COAST:  Between Zadar and Dubrovnik are many naturist hotels.  
Nearly all of them restrict access to their beaches to paying overnight 
guests.  We did visit one of the hotels, but I forget the location.  
Rats.  It had an older clientele than the campgrounds, but still plenty 
of people enjoying the beach, volleyball, and hotel bar naturally.  
German is the only second language we found.

Page 195
I couldn't find the town of Igalo on the GULF OF KOTOR, even though we 
drove all the way around it.

We didn't go down to Ulcinj, but between there and Budva is the charming 
fishing village of SVETI STEFAN, which is perched like a bird on a rock 
in the Adriatic.  The entire village is now a museum-hotel.  But 
immediately to the south is an FKK campground with a view of Sveti 
Stefan, a clean pebbly beach, and a substantially younger crowd.  Only 
"FKK" appears on the sign on the road.

    There is a new publication put out by the American Sunbathing
    Association.  This new book is a revamped version of their ASA Park
    Guide, entitled "North American Guide to Nude Recreation".
    
    The new book is 8 1/2 x 11 and in full color (with lots of pictures).
    Each ASA site/campground/resort has it's own description with pictures
    from that location.  Maps to the different places are grouped together
    at the back.  For those of you in North America, it's a pretty decent
    substitute for the missing new edition of the World Guide, though I was
    wondering why Moonstone was missing from the list of nude beaches in
    the back.
    
    The new book is $18.95 (list). I saw them being sold at Solair.
    

I spoke today to people from The Naturist Society, and specifically to the
woman who is doing the most of the writing for the new edition.


Expect publication before Christmas (finally)!


If anyone has commentary they would like to pass on (errors, corrections,
ommissions) mail them to be NO LATER THAN AUGUST 31 and I will pass them on.
Beyond that date, we exceed their deadlines....

    
    - John

    
    .13> Expect publication before Christmas (finally)!
    
       Ok, I was expecting publication before Christmas. It is now December
    27th and you've got me ticked off :-) because nobody gave me a copy.
    
       Any word on a publication date?
    
    
    Frank
    

I talked with the folks at the Naturist Society.  They've been delayed, of 
course.  Problems:  the publisher won't distribute it, so for the most part, 
bookstores aren't going to carry it because they can't get it.  If this annoys
you, you might harp on the bookstores, so they can push back.  I don't know
who the publisher is though...  Additionally, the foreign contributions are 
slowing them down - some are proving difficult to get translated.

The Naturist Society will be distributing it themselves.  Initial printing will
be about 50,000.  The cover photo will be the same as the previous edition.  
They had a new photo, but elected to use the old one for recognition value
since they've lost distribution channels.

Publication is sincerely intended by spring, as that's the start of "the season"
and they really don't want to miss the sales.  It will be advertised in their
magazine, so we'll get plenty of advance notice and ordering information.

John

Someone I know said that he called and The Naturist Society told him that
the World Guide is due to be released this July (at $21.95 each), and that
if you order ahead of time, it'll be $19.95.

I suspect that there'll be an order form in the next issue of N&N.

B.

The "new for the 90's" edition of the _World Guide_ is scheduled for July 1
publication.  

It can be preordered for $19.95, including shipping, prior to June 30; the
price is scheduled to $21.95 + shipping after July 1.

You can order from The Naturist Society, P O Box 132, Oshkosh, WI, 54902 --
enclose a check or credit card number and expiration date, and specify a
delivery address.

Or, you can order by phone with a credit card, at (414)426-5009.

I guess so.

Word at the Gathering was July 4 (I guess that sounds snappier than July 1).

I'll let you know when it arrives....


/John

This is from usenet:
"...Look for an August release date now.

NCN will be able to take orders for The Guide as well,
and if possible, at a slight discount. When we work out
the details I'll post to the net.

By The Way, The Guide Was Originally To Be Distributed
Via A Major National Publishing House, But They Chickened
Out In Fear Of Ed Meese's Poorly-named 'Child Pornography'
Report And Law. now, Lee and company will distribute the
thing themselves, but with far less exposure to retail
and mail order outlets than they would have had before.
"

-Jeff

    Has anyone gotten their new World Guide yet?  We sent our money to the
    Naturist Society, along with an order for the new ASA Park Guide
    (which, BTW, is completely revised and filled with beautiful photos). 
    The ASA Guide showed up the other day, but alas, no World Guide.  TNS
    says it's not ready yet.  Uh-oh... how long do you think it will be now
    :-((

    
    
    Received my copy yesterday. Didn't get a chance to look at every page
    but the format looks the same as the last one, even the type looks the
    same. Did see a lot of nice photos though.
    
    Bob
    

    Well... every body must be off reading their new guides;
    it's too quiet in here.

    What's the verdict?  Is it bigger or smaller than the old one?
    Have the listings changed a lot?

    Should I buy a copy?

    I still haven't received mine, anyone else order one and not get it yet?
    
    Robin

    I'm still waiting for mine, but then, it's suppose to go to my old
    address.
    
    B.

    I spoke too quickly..  Mine was waiting for me Friday when I got home.
    Nice coincidence!!
    
    Robin

    Is it in the book stores yet or do you have to order it?  If the
    latter, would someone like to volunteer to get a copy for me?
    
    Thanks,
    Tim
    

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From: [email protected] (Lib)
Subject: Correction For World Guide
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Date: 21 Nov 91 13:06:58 GMT
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One small error I noticed in the new World Guide. In the directions
to Lake Wood (aka as Wood Lake) the guide says go 7 miles after
you turn onto the road at the gas station and then look for the
park entrance. Well 7 tenths is more like it. I never measured
the distance but at a max it's 1 mile. I ride it on my bike.

    	Also left out was the directions to the north end of the Cape
    canaveral National Seashore through New Smyrna Beach.  The new edition
    talks about Playalinda (down near Titusville) but neglects to mention
    New Smyrna.