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Conference moira::naturism

Title:	Naturism
Notice:	Site report index is in topic 7
Moderator:	GENRAL::KILGORE

Created:	Tue Jan 26 1988
Last Modified:	Wed May 07 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	457
Total number of notes:	3687

8.0. "USENET rec.nude archives available" by MOIRA::FAIMAN (Ontology Recapitulates Philology) Wed Jan 27 1988 11:07

    I have collected an edited archive of postings from the USENET rec.nude
    newsgroup since spring 1985 in the conference MOIRA::REC_NUDE. 
    Press KP7 or SELECT to add it to your notebook. 
    
    REC_NUDE is write-locked, but you are welcome to extract notes from
    it and repost them in this conference for discussion if you like.
    
    In case you aren't familiar with USENET newsgroups, here's an
    abbreviated introduction:
    
    USENET vaguely resembles a collection of NOTES conferences, supported
    by a wide variety of machines owned by a wide variety of institutions
    (companies, universities, and government facilities).  The
    implementation is more like cooperative mail redistribution using
    store-and-forward mailers and dial-up network links.  Thus, a few
    differences from NOTES are:
    
    	A posting (the USENET equivalent of a note) may take days to
    	reach everyone.  Some people will never see it.  It is not at
    	all uncommon to see a reply to a posting before you see the
    	original posting; in fact, you may see a baffling reply and
    	never find out what it was about.
    
    	Since the implementation is basically just mail forwarding,
    	there is no moderation.  There are some newsgroups that make
    	SOAPBOX look tame.
    
    We cannot use the normal USENET tools to read newsgroups within
    Digital, but all of the newsgroups are redistributed by mail within
    Digital.  (See the NOTES conference ROLL::USENET for more details.)
    
    One of the USENET newsgroups is rec.nude (nude recreation), and
    I have collected the postings from this group in MOIRA::REC_NUDE
    and edited out the garbage (a high proportion of the original content,
    since rec.nude isn't all that active in the first place, and naturally
    attracts a lot of random postings on peripherally related topics).
    
    Enjoy.
    
    	-Neil Faiman

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
8.1	Useful for novices	VAXWRK::PETERSON	Bob	`Mon Feb 08 1988 17:42`	3
	Thank you for making those archives available. I am a novice naturist and reading those discussions will help me answer my novice questions. That should save you more experienced noters from some typing!
8.2	concerns about rec_nude	MOIRA::FAIMAN	Alternately stone in you and star	`Thu Sep 14 1995 10:34`	32
	These concerns are from a reader. -Neil =============================================================================== Hi Neil, I've been following rec_nude (your echo of rec.nude) for some time and am concerned about a trend I've been observing and how it might impact not only that conference, but the naturism notes file. Basically, I think I'm seeing a lot more inappropriate postings like "send me GIFs", "dial xxx.xxx.xxxx for online sex", etc. My concern is that somene reading rec_nude will use those inappropriate postings as ammunition to attempt to shut down both conferences. Now I understand that all that rec_nude is is a capture of rec.nude, and that the inappropriate postings really came from the internet. I understand quite well that those postings did not originate from within the corporation. However, since they are offensive (and yes, I find them offensivem and do not enjoy encountering them when I read rec_nude) it's my concern that someone will complain, with the result that all naturism-related conferences will be banned (the typical overreaction). I don't have and real suggestion, other than to moderate rec_nude, or perhaps attempt to develop some home-brew filter to weed out the inoffensive material. Regards,
8.3		MOIRA::FAIMAN	Alternately stone in you and star	`Thu Sep 14 1995 10:36`	17
	This was my reply. What do you think? -Neil ============================================================================= I agree. I simply don't have the energy to do anything about it. I don't even read about 90% articles in rec.nude any more -- I just capture them for the newsgroup update. My personal choice would have been to drop the rec.nude conference alltogether, and let people read it through Usenet if they wanted; but I got pretty strong feedback that people really wanted me to continue it. But I'm no longer willing to go to the trouble of being selective in what I capture. I'll post your concerns and this reply in NATURISM and see what people think. -Neil
8.4	I agree with anon. and Neil	GENRAL::KILGORE	The UT Desert Rat living in CO	`Thu Sep 14 1995 11:22`	12
	RE: -1 >> But I'm no longer willing to go to the trouble of being selective in what I >> capture. Neil, I don't believe the responsibility should lie on your shoulders to have to be selective. If what -2 says is what is getting posted in rec.nude, I agree this should not be on Digital's networks and could jeopardize our conference. If people want to have access to it, they should access it directly instead of the separate conference. Judy
8.5		PEAKS::RICHARD	_2B or D4?	`Thu Sep 21 1995 12:05`	8
	Re -.1 This is my feeling, also. If someone wants to access a Usenet conference, let them do so directly. Anyone with access to the Easynet can get either a text or graphical Usenet reader, and can peruse to their heart's content. Why should you do their work for them? /Mike
8.6	Put it in file 13	MKOTS3::STARBRIGHT	Serenity	`Tue Oct 10 1995 15:59`	7
	I vote to just get rid of the rec_nude notesfile. It's offensive and dangerous and there is no way to control it. Why take a chance on losing a valuable tool like Naturism? Anyone who wants to read Rec. Nude can do so on the net. Serenity