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991.1 | Beauty the Protector | MKOTS3::OFFEN | | Tue Apr 02 1996 09:46 | 20 |
| Oh, Yes, Definitely !!!
Black Beauty was a wonderful stray that I adopted. He was so
protective of his girls that I had to watch where I chastised the
girls. They way I found this out is:
Thunder had been a bad kitty and I was in the back bedroom chastising
her when Beauty came racing down the hallway and leaped up, landing
with his claws just barely unsheathed on my back. It was his way of
telling me I was not allowed to punish Thunder.
After that, I made sure beauty was not in the same room when I was
chastising one of his girls. He never really hurt me, he just warned
me.
Of course, he would also do that when someone was tussling with one of
my two-legged girls too.
Sandi, mom to the Notorious Seven
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991.2 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Tue Apr 02 1996 10:52 | 9 |
| Yes, the next time it's claw clipping time, I'd keep Webster in a
separate room and let things calm down for several minutes after
Damian's claws have been clipped before I let Webster out. I'd give
Damian a wide berth for awhile too :-) Besides protectiveness, cats
just seem to wig out at any threat in their vicinity -- you've perhaps
seem indoor cats attack each other (or the nearest human) if they hear
an outdoor cat fight. Just a kitty bizareness, no big deal if you
know what to expect.
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991.3 | Wigged out is my guess | SALEM::LYMAN | | Tue Apr 02 1996 11:34 | 30 |
| I agree with catas getting wigged out at threats - it is definitely
kitty bizarrenes. We have two indoor cats. There used
to be a feral cat that regularly would come up and thumb his nose at
them as they sat in the bay window looking out. One of the indoor cats
used to scrabble at the window, get all fluffed up and growl hideously.
The other indoor cat would get all fluffed up and attack the first
indoor cat. He was really ferocious and would terrify his brother. A
couple of times he drew blood.
This was not an excuse to fight; they are littermates and are very
close. I think it was just excitement. We solved this by putting
down the shades in that window when we weren't around. Last winter a
car killed the feral cat, so that's that, at least for the moment.
They tend to become alarmed if we're doing something to the other one
and will hide, but so far have not defended each other.
BTW, they are now quite calm about having their claws clipped. We
simply bribe them. We give them catnip immediately after both of
them have been done. The minute we put down the first cat, he goes
and waits in the place in our entryway where we put the catnip, until
we have done the second cat. They squirm and mutter a bit, but don't
really struggle.
This has resulted in a weird bit of cat logic: "unpleasant experience
= catnip." A couple of weeks ago I had to give one a pill. When I
put him down he immediately ran over to the catnip place.
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991.4 | sensative pads | SALEM::SHAW | | Tue Apr 02 1996 11:43 | 11 |
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I agree with what everyone said. This does not mean that your kitty
is a wild attack animal. We had a case similar to -1.
However when we doing the nails, be very gentle with their paw pads
cats are very sensative there and a bit too much pressure on the pads
and they are very uncomfortable. With one of our cats we have to
rap her in a towel and bring out one paw at a time. The other two
don't even mind the clipping cause they know usually afterwards they
are going to get a treat.
Shaw
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991.5 | the dew claw could be causing pressure | CATMAX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Tue Apr 02 1996 11:51 | 8 |
| one other thing about Damien's claws. The fact that he is doubled pawed
means that he might have a "dew claw" between the "thumb" and the paw
pad. Often, this claw doesn't wear down, and is growing into the cat's
paw pad, which makes this area more sensitive than on other cats. I've
had that extra claw removed on two cats, and it made claw trimming less
of a horrible experience.
Deb
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991.6 | Damian has a "dew claw" | LJSRV1::MARX | | Tue Apr 02 1996 12:26 | 8 |
| Yes, Damian's owner did say he has a "dew claw" that tends to grow
right into his pad. That's the reason for clipping. She did say that
they would have to put Webster "away" while the clipping is happening.
It's interesting to hear the different stories of cat reactions to
stressful situations. I have 7 cats of my own and have not had this
experience.
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991.7 | | CATMAX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Tue Apr 02 1996 12:45 | 16 |
| I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, but here it goes. I have 8
cats and while none of them really like having their nails clipped,
I've never had anything like the base note described happen to me.
ANd I might add that most of my cats are former ferals.
Now I have friends that have the described problems, (and friends that
haven't), and the *big* difference that I notice between those that
have problems and those that don't is that the ones that have problems
make a big ordeal, almost a "ritual" about what they are doing. And this
is true of for nail clipping as well as giving pills, getting kitty into
the carrier, combing out matts, etc. If you just act like what you are
doing is "normal", i.e., don't act like something is up, the cat doesn't
seem scared or as upset and you are much less likely to get clawed.
Deb
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991.8 | | WRKSYS::MACKAY_E | | Tue Apr 02 1996 14:33 | 17 |
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I never had cat attacks but I have on regular basis put my
cats in situations in which they could have freaked out, like
bathing them (I don't clip their nails since they go outside),
giving medicines, de-ticking them, going to the vet, etc. I
agree with Deb that how I approach them affects how they react
to such unpleasantries, I believe they can sense my anxiety
level and match theirs to mine! I cuddle them and talk to them
for a while before I subject them to the treatments, they don't
like the baths, the pills, they attempt to wiggle loose, they
moan and groan, but they never claw or bite. I don't yell at
them when they get difficult either, I just try the procedure
all over again, after a few times, they resign to the fact that
I won't stop until I get my way and give in.
Eva
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991.9 | one cat chastises the other, not the stress-inducing human! | BOOKIE::chayna.zko.dec.com::xanadu::eppes | Nina Eppes | Wed Apr 03 1996 11:18 | 8 |
| My long-haired cat, Jasper, HATES to be combed. He screams and
thrashes and puts up a real fight if I have to do a major combing
session. My other cat, Chayna, who is short-haired (but loves to
be combed) has occasionally lashed out at *Jasper* during these
sessions, as if to tell him to shut up and behave! It's kind of
funny, actually...
-- Nina
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991.10 | | JULIET::CORDES_JA | Eight Tigers on My Couch | Wed Apr 03 1996 13:18 | 22 |
| It all depends on the cat. I have 5 that I can just about
do anything with. I can clip claws, bathe and comb with a
minimum of fuss. I have 2 that would make you think that
the world was ending and it was their personal job to destroy
anything in sight when it happens if I so much as touch a
claw.
I've been doing this a long time and I approach them all the
same way like it's just another part of a normal day.
After 5 years of working with Carrie and 3 years of working
with Mac I can sometimes get through one whole paw before the
growling and shrieking starts where before it started immediately.
This is major progress.
So...sometimes it is just the cat's freaky personality.
YMMV,
Jan
Jan
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991.11 | cat attack | BIGQ::HOWLAND | | Wed Apr 10 1996 07:29 | 11 |
| Definitely, especially if the two cats have a standing relationship. We've
recently adopted two cats (Deb Jancaitis's babies). Missy hasn't gotten along
very well with our first cat, Woolie, and sometimes there is screaming and
hissing. Each time this happens Patches, Missy's sister, comes running to the
rescue and it always turns into two against one with Woolie getting cornered
somewhere until one of us comes to her rescue. Missy exhibits the same reaction
when Woolie and Patches get into it, but when the sisters act up with each other
Woolie doesn't react at all past the usual feline curiosity. What a time we're
having getting everybody to get along with each other!!
Jim
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991.12 | | CSC32::M_EVANS | be the village | Sat Nov 02 1996 16:48 | 14
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