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Conference misery::feline

Title:Meower Power - Where Differing Opinions are Respected
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Moderator:JULIET::CORDES_JA
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1079
Total number of notes:28858

803.0. "Dog question" by USCTR1::ESULLIVAN () Mon Sep 19 1994 21:37

    Hi,
    	I can't seem to get into the Dogs notesfile, so perhaps someone
    	could answer this question for me because I find it upsetting.
    
    	My neighbor has a dog that barked alot.  He put a collar on the
    	dog that gives the dog an electric shock when the dog barks.
    	Is this humane?  Do stores sell these type of collars.  I am
    	wondering if I should call the MSPCA to find out, or am I over-
    	reacting.  I would never do anything like this to my cats (not
    	that they bark, but one does talk alot).
    
    Eleanor
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803.1Unfortunately they are legal. SALEM::SHAWTue Sep 20 1994 05:168
    
    Eleanor, 
    
     I also am against that type of device, but it is no different than
     the collars they have for invisible fences that many dog owners use. 
     So it is sold in stores and MSPCA can not do anything about it. 
    
    Shaw
803.2VLNVAX::PGLADDINGNoters do it with a 8-)Tue Sep 20 1994 09:235
    Well, it can't be worse than an awful story I heard about the
    vet-tech who had her dogs' vocal cords cut because the neighbors
    were going to make her get rid of it.
    
    I would MOVE before I'd do that!!
803.3USCTR1::LAJEUNESSETue Sep 20 1994 11:2023
    The collar you are refering to is a training collar and they are used
    all the time.  There are two types.  One you can activate yourself,
    wait for the dog to bark and then you remotely activate the collar to
    shock the dog.  The other is activated by the bark itself.  The dog
    will bark X number of times and then it will be shocked.  The collar
    resets itself and then the dog will be able to bark X amount of times
    before the collar shocks again.
    
    You may consider this inhumane or not agree but lets get real folks. 
    If you have a dog that is a problem barker you normally have tried just
    about everything and anything to get them to stop.  (If you live next
    to someone that has a barking dog you might understand better)
    
    I have a collar and I have used it to break one of my dogs that barks. 
    She barks for no reason at all that I can determine.  My male sits and
    watches as she just barks and barks.  
    
    It corrects her and she seems none the worse for
    it.  I do have to put the collar on her occasionally for a day or two. 
    I do not think they should have them on all the time.
    
    Mark
    
803.4shocking infoUSCTR1::ESULLIVANTue Sep 20 1994 20:405
    
    Thanks for your responses.  I also got some repsonses off-line on this
    subject.
    
    Eleanor
803.5USCTR1::MERRITT_SKitty CityWed Sep 21 1994 09:585
    What did happen to the Dogs notesfile....I have not been able
    to access it for the last few days.   Is the node/name still
    Dogs::canine.
    
    Sandy  
803.6address change as of Monday....SALEM::SHAWWed Sep 21 1994 10:249
    
    Sandy the dogs node is changing address. Donna the moderator is
    supposedly doing all this on Monday. The node name is still DOGS 
    but the adress will be changed to 2.260. You can have your friendly
    system manger define the new node address on your system. As a matter
    of fact it is still the old address, I just got in on another window
    ;-)
    
    Shaw
803.7Help I need Canine notes....DNEAST::CLARK_DEANNATue Sep 27 1994 12:473
    
    
    new address for Canine ?  I still can't get in. help
803.8DOGS 2.260SALEM::SHAWTue Sep 27 1994 12:546
    
    Deanna, see reply previous to yours. But the network updates should
    be automatic. If not have your system manager define it for you.
    just show him  note 803.6
    
    Shaw