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| 789.1 |  | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Wed Aug 10 1994 08:55 | 3 | 
|  |     this wouldn't be the black "freckles" that orange cats sometimes have?
    
    Deb
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| 789.2 |  | USCTR1::MERRITT_S |  | Wed Aug 10 1994 09:00 | 5 | 
|  |     Deb..I believe the freckles are on the nose of orange cats and
    the way Pam explains it...these black marks are on the base
    of the whiskers.
    
    Sandy
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| 789.3 |  | VLNVAX::PGLADDING | Noters do it with a 8-) | Wed Aug 10 1994 09:28 | 7 | 
|  |     I thought maybe it was her markings too - but she only came
    out with them the past couple of days.  They're not really
    "freckles", but more of a "blob" of black - one blob on either
    side of her face.  And it doesn't feel like normal skin - not
    as soft as the rest of her skin.
    
    Pam
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| 789.4 |  | VLNVAX::PGLADDING | Noters do it with a 8-) | Thu Aug 11 1994 08:01 | 15 | 
|  |     Well, I have a vet appt. on Friday evening, so I'll let you know
    what the diagnosis is on Monday morning.
    
    In the meantime, it has spread to the chin of the little torbie
    kitty (poor baby).  It doesn't appear to be bothering her, but 
    the poor little thing looks like she has a dirty mouth all the
    time!
    
    Thanks to Karen Fallon for looking up (but unfortunately, not
    find much) information in her vet medical books!  She has the
    feeling it might be some kind of virus causing this.  Hopefully
    it's nothing serious.
    
    I'll keep you all posted.
    Pam
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| 789.5 | Just an odd piece of info... | PCBUOA::FALLON | Moonsta Cattery | Thu Aug 11 1994 09:06 | 8 | 
|  |     Of course I can't remember the name!
    
    FYI:  Orange Toms can develop those black freckles around the lips and
    mouth due to the genetic factors.  It was neat to read about this in my
    searches!!  It is only aesthetic and does no harm to the cat.  And not
    all Orange cats will get it!
    Karen
    who loves all her new books!
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| 789.6 |  | AYRPLN::VENTURA | Make the world your playground. | Thu Aug 11 1994 09:30 | 7 | 
|  |     Just a question, Pam.  When you feed them, if the food on plastic dishes?  
    I know that with some cats, feline acne (if it's that at all) develops 
    when they eat out of plastic or paper dishes.  Try either glass or
    ceramic and see if that helps?
    
    Holly
    
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| 789.7 |  | JULIET::CORDES_JA | Four Tigers on my Couch | Thu Aug 11 1994 11:03 | 5 | 
|  |     Sounds suspiciously like kitty acne to me.  Amelia got them when 
    I was still using plastic dishes for feeding.  Switched to ceramic
    and glass and haven't had a problem since.
    
    Jan
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| 789.8 |  | VLNVAX::PGLADDING | Noters do it with a 8-) | Thu Aug 11 1994 11:53 | 13 | 
|  |     Yes, I am using plastic dishes.  That was my first thought - but 
    the black marks aren't scabby at all.  It is suspicious that it's 
    occuring around the mouth, but they all started around the whisker 
    area, and only one has it under the chin (unless kittens eat 
    differently than adults).
    
    And only three out of the five have it - I guess only some can
    react to the plastic, even if they're from the same litter.
    
    Well, I'll know for sure tomorrow night.  I'll have to switch plates
    when I get home to see if it helps.
    
    Pam
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| 789.9 |  | AYRPLN::VENTURA | Make the world your playground. | Thu Aug 11 1994 14:07 | 15 | 
|  |     Pam,
    
    That's true, that not all cats get feline acne.  Sweetie gets it
    terribly when my mother gives him food on a plastic dish.  However,
    Kyra, my solid white turkish angora, doesn't get it at all, but her
    sister Margie did.  
    
    Feline acne isn't really "scabs".  It basically looks like little black
    dots on their face and chin.  Sweetie had them in his whisker areas as
    well as on his chin, but the chin was the worse.
    
    Let us know what the fet says.  
    
    Holly
    
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| 789.10 |  | VLNVAX::PGLADDING | Noters do it with a 8-) | Mon Aug 15 1994 13:53 | 22 | 
|  |     Hi there,
    
    Sorry this is so late - we have a power outage in our building
    over the weekend, and I've been scrambling all day!
    
    I took all the kittens to the vet on Friday afternoon.  The vet
    looked the black marks, then proceeded to pull the scabs off (yucko!).
    There was regular skin & hair underneath - a little pink, but not
    too bad looking.
    
    He put one of the scabs under the microscope and found white cells.  
    He thinks it's a staph infection.  I immediately grossed out and asked
    what caused it - and he said "staph" - geez, thanks a lot for the
    detailed explanation!  He went on to say that staph germs are
    everywhere.  I have a feeling, though, it might have come from
    their dishes.  I've been soaking them in regular water, and I have
    a feeling it was harboring germs.  No more soaking!
    
    So, they're on an ointment called Bacoderm (or something like
    that) twice a day for 10 days.  They're looking better already.
    
    Pam
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| 789.11 | Staphylococcus 'pameliensis' | BPSOF::EGYED | Per aspera ad astra | Tue Aug 23 1994 23:35 | 10 | 
|  |     Staph stands for staphylococcus. Quite common (an art of staph e.g.
    causes bad pickles on humans) and mostly quite harmless. Some arts can
    be very dangerous, though. Some react to antibiotics, some are resistent. 
    Wide gang, them.
    
    I recommend using china dishes and wash them up as your own. (I do so). 
    
    I hope the furries go better now.
    
    Nat
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| 789.12 |  | VLNVAX::PGLADDING | Noters do it with a 8-) | Fri Aug 26 1994 12:13 | 7 | 
|  |     Thanks for the explanation, Nat!  After a week of treating them
    with the oinment, they're black "mustaches" are gone.  I'm extra
    careful about soaking dishes now - even went out and bought extras
    so that I don't have to worry about hurrying and not cleaning good
    enough!
    
    Pam
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