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Title:Meower Power - Where Differing Opinions are Respected
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Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
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687.0. "Urinating problem following surgery" by SMOYED::ARONOFF () Mon Jan 10 1994 20:21

I'm entering this note for a friend:

I have a neutered male cat, about 4 years old.  He has just recovered
from a urinary blockage (was in the hospital for about a week) from 
which he almost died.  Now he is back at home and doing much better, 
though he seems much more subdued and stays close to home more than 
he ever did.  I think this problem took its toll on Feather, both 
physically and emotionally.

Now I have another problem.  Since he has come back home, he has 
developed a bad habit of urinating in inappropriate places -- namely,
on my kitchen counters and in my dining room.  When he was well, he
used to go exclusively outdoors, no matter what the weather.  When 
he came home from the vet and was isolated from my other cats while 
recuperating, he used a litter box.  Now that he is back with free 
roam of the house and with the other cats, he neither goes outside 
or uses the litter box.  

I have three other cats -- two still go outside, my little kitty 
(who I'm not sure Feather has accepted yet) uses the litter box.  I
think this may be part of the reason Feather won't use the litter 
box -- I think it might be a territorial thing, and I think he may
not want to go in where she goes. I have called the vet, who says 
it's not a physical problem, but rather a behavior problem now.  

In desperation last night, I even put down a second litter box, next 
to the kitten's, for Feather.  I put him in it to show him, but he 
didn't seem too interested.  I can't control who uses which box, and 
my little kitty is such a stinker that I'm sure she'll go ahead and 
use both!

I am at my wit's end.  I find that I am starting to punish Feather 
(much like I'd punish a dog for peeing in the house), but that's 
getting me nowhere, except that Feather is just becoming afraid of 
me when he sees me coming (even for food or pets), so he's starting 
to run off and hide when I approach.  This I'm sure is just aggravating 
the situation more and making things worse for both of us.  I don't 
want to be an ogre -- I just want to get him back into his good habits.  

I think he might feel he has lost his 'standing' in the house (2 dogs
and 4 cats, where he used to rank #2), and this might be his way of 
acting out.  I feel bad for him because he isn't quite the 'boss' he 
used to be, but I don't know what to do to restore peace and harmony 
back into our daily lives.

Does anybody have any suggestions for me?

Thanks.

Carol




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687.1MAYES::MERRITTKitty CityTue Jan 11 1994 05:2528
    My guess is that since Feather just got over a urinary blockage
    problem...he might still have a stinging sensation or possibly
    and infection and that is what is causing him to still have 
    litterbox problems. You might consider talking to your vets about 
    this because I doubt it is a behaviour issues.   Is your kitty on
    a special diet???  Normally vets will put them on a low magnesium
    and ash diet so the problem does not come back.  
    
    Other things you could try:
    
      o Put Feather back in his isolation spot with his own litterbox
        so you can monitor if he is using it or not.  If he does use it..
        Gradually let him  have his freedom of the entire house by starting 
        to let him out when you are home.
      o I think adding another litterbox was the right choice...but you
        may want to move the box away from the other one.  
      o You might consider changing litters...and making sure they stay
        very clean.
      o Try washing feathers private area with warm water.
    
    I personally would start by calling the vet back...because it
    doesn't sound like the medical problem is resolved yet.   
    Good luck...stay patient because Feather needs you right now!!!
    
    Sandy
       
    
    
687.2Ditto last replyEASI::GEENENVescere bracis meis.Tue Jan 11 1994 07:0521
    
    
    
    My vet has said that when examining urinary problems in kitties, she
    attempts to rule out all physical causes BEFORE assuming there is a
    behavioral problem.
    
    A recent case she told me about had symtoms much like the base note.
    A ph check of the urine proved to be high and was brought back down to
    acceptable limits through dietary control.  But this kitty was an
    indoors only kitty and the diet could be controlled easily.  This may
    not be what it wrong in every case, but should go to show that a
    veterinarian can ofttimes come up with a diagnosis of a physical
    cause that is easily treatable.
    
    Bad urination habits are the kitties' way of telling us something is
    wrong with them.  First, try to find a physical reason.  Those are
    easier to fix than are behavioral problems.  My advice is to take the
    kitty to the vet without further delay.
    
    Carl-who-is-glad-that-FELINE-is-back
687.3EMASS::SKALTSISDebTue Feb 01 1994 11:4427
    I agree with the two previous replies; I've had several cats with
    blockages and several others with just infections. The ones that
    had blockages always do that when something starts to be going wrong.
    I usually take a bit of the urine right to the vet to have the ph
    checked (costs about $3); if you can't get it to the vet right away,
    refrigerate it and bring it to the vet the next day. If the PH is fine,
    then have them run a full urinalysis (about $20). I can usually tell
    if there is a physical problem by the way the urine smells but I have a
    very sensitive sense of smell (the vet claims I'm crazy but I haven't
    been wrong once). Bottom line is that cat usually winds up on a urine
    acidifier or an antibiotic for a few days.

    If it turns out that the cat has an infection rather than a urine
    acidity problem, the cat might be put on an antibiotic for 10-14 days;
    this MAY NOT be sufficient; if kitty starts exhibiting problems after
    the antibiotics run out, call the vet and let her/him know ASAP so that
    they can refill the prescription. (I've found that Niky winds up on 
    antibiotics for 3-4 weeks when he gets an infection.)

    One other thing. Before I got the wood pellet stove, when I tried to
    save a bit of $$ and turn the thermostat down to 60F in the day, I found
    that two of my cats would get an immediate bladder problem. (65 seemed
    to be the temp threshold for these two). Anyhow, now with the stove
    keeping the place at a nice tosty 74 all day our problems have
    disappeared.

    Deb