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680.1 | | NETWKS::GASKELL | | Mon Dec 13 1993 11:13 | 16 |
| I don't think you said where you live. Does your town have any animal laws.
My town doesn't have a leash law but dog owners have to be responsible
for their pets.
If the young man leaves and does not provide supervision for his
animals and the dogs are running lose over other people's yards then
in most towns an animal officer can pick them up and inpound them as
strays.
I live in Massachusetts, USA. In this state, towns are being extra
careful of stray animals as we have an outbreak of Rabies. Your stray
dogs could pose a similar health hazard.
I hope you are able to resolve this without any harm to you or your cats.
We lost three of our cats before we realized we had a problem.
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680.2 | Call the SPCA/Dog Officer | LJSRV2::BLUNDELL | | Mon Dec 13 1993 11:14 | 13 |
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My personal advice would be to call the local animal officer and/or
the SPCA. Don't feel like you're doing a bad thing - the animals
are obviously not being well cared for (except for your valiant
efforts :-) and would be far better served by you're getting them
help. I don't know what kind of area you live in but if they're
running free, it only takes one car and there'll be no more debate.
It's horrible that any human being can leave an animal uncared for
like that - maybe it was unintentional (?) - I feel so bad for the
poor peacock!
Adrienne
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680.3 | I agree with .2 | TIMBER::AIKEY | | Mon Dec 13 1993 11:25 | 11 |
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I agree with .2. If it wasn't for you providing them with food the
poor things would be starving. I would call both the dog offiicer and
the SPCA. Something should be done to people that treat animals like
that.....
Best of luck!!!!!11
*joyce
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680.4 | | MVDS02::BELFORTI | PFYOWS | Mon Dec 13 1993 11:34 | 12 |
| I strongly urge you to call the SPCA. All you need is for someone to
get hurt on your property, by these dogs, whether they are yours or
not... you have been caring for them (otherwise they would starve, or
worse.. start killing the littler animals in the neighborhood, for
food), so they are going to stick around your house. They would be
much better off in the pound where it is warm and they don't have to
worry about where their next meal is coming from (probably you) or if
it will be coming at all! Most areas have laws about abandoning
animals, so the authorities "should" go after this guy! You will be
doing everyone a favor, the dogs, your cats and yourself!
M-L
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680.5 | What about Bob? (funny movie) | WECARE::FALLON | | Mon Dec 13 1993 13:13 | 2 |
| What's gonna happen to the peacock? Can you keep Bob?
Karen
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680.6 | | AYRPLN::VENTURA | Deck the halls ... DON'T SAY IT!! | Mon Dec 13 1993 13:47 | 6 |
| You said you haven't seen the man since friday. Is his vehicle still
at the house? Maybe go and check at the house to see if he's ok (or
have someone he knows check for you). There may be something wrong.
Holly
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680.7 | still no sign | JULIET::LANE_BE | | Mon Dec 13 1993 15:31 | 43 |
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No his truck hasn't been around either - that's usually the only way to
know if he's home unless he is outside. He doesn't have a phone yet.
I walked around and around, knocked on the door and peeked in the windows
before I made my first trek over with the food. Adam is definately not
home. Something must have happended to this man. This is just to
strange.
My husband went home for lunch and still no sign of Adam. He is
calling a real estate agent who is a good friend of the man who
owns the house, trying to find out if there is anyone we can
contact. We have decided if that gets us no where, we will call
the Humane Society in a town near us in the morning. The local
sheriff gave us a number. We will also call the owner of the house
in Costa Rica.
We live in a really rural area and have no city services or local
animal laws per se. At least the only law in regards to animals
is a limit on the number of roosters you can have per acre.
(thank goodness - another story in that one!!)
My husband did see something lying in the road. He thought is was
something dead, but it turned out to be a stuffed toy rabbit that
apparently belongs to the puppy - whew!!
Bob is in good shape. He has chosen our hill as his territory and
seems to have no plans on leaving. He gets food and water every day,
along with the other birds in the area (lots of quail, humming birds etc.)
He gets along great with our cats. They sit and sun together. He is
really a beautiful animal (bright blue and green). His favorite foods
are clover sprouts, pecans and grapes... but that's for the bird note
I guess. My husband said he has been sitting on our back step most of
the day - out of sight of any dogs. He roosts way up in the trees at
night so I know he's safe then. He's our warning bell. Once screamed
for an hour. We checked, but didn't see a thing. The next morning, we
found some evidence some deer had come through the property and eaten
all my husband's antique roses. Never doubt him again!
Well, I will be going home in an hour to check on the menagerie.
Thanks all for listening - or should I say reading?!
Becky
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680.8 | | ELWOOD::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Tue Dec 14 1993 04:40 | 26 |
| Hi Becky,
I agree with everyone here, the SPCA or Humane Society is probably
your best route. Perhaps this person had to leave the area in a hurry
...
Anyway, as for your peacock, may I suggest getting some Blue Seal
Game Bird Pellets for him? That's what we feed our turkeys and
pheasants and peacocks, along with what they forage. Good, balanced
nutrition. Our turkeys also eat (white) bread; Bob probably will too.
They're pretty good at defending themselves unless they are startled,
which isn't easy to do as you know - they're excellent "watch-birds".
Can you touch Bob? Pet him? I ask because the only real time
they can get in trouble is if it ices - the tail can become covered
with ice and freeze, and then they can't fly too well, if at all - too
heavy. Perhaps if you had a small shed or coop that you could lure him
into during the icy weather, or some big trees he can hide under during
this time.
But I'm getting off the track ;^) ...
- Andrea & her cats, rabbits,
chickens and assorted "game" birds
- Andrea
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680.9 | | JULIET::LANE_BE | | Tue Dec 14 1993 10:42 | 40 |
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Well, here's the latest. About 9:00 last night Adam came home. It was
raining so the puppy was sitting under the covered area on our porch.
We went and stood outside when we heard Adam whistling for the dogs.
The pup sure didn't go running home to master... He had to come over
and talk to us.
He said he got a construction job in San Francisco (about 100 miles
from here) and had been staying up there for the past few days. He said
the son of one of his friends was supposed to be coming over to feed
the dogs. Well, he claims the kid let the dogs out on Friday and then
could not get them back in the house. Well, what could I say.
Someone is lying, cause there sure wasn't anyone coming over on
Saturday, Sunday or Monday to feed the dogs. I also don't believe that
these dogs would not go in the house. Gee if I open the door they come
right in here in a flash!
We told him we had been feeding the dogs and they were a couple hours
short of going to the Humane Society. He thanked us but that was about
it. He didn't seem to concerned or even offer to pay for the food. I
had to go in the house and slam the door this ticked me off so much. I
just don't buy it. I wish he had stayed gone just for one more night
and then dogs would be gone. My husband spoke to him some more but I
don't know what he said. I did notice they are locked in the house
this morning, so maybe he got part of our message. Something tells
me there will be future opportunities and future problems. It's not
a beautiful day in the neighborhood!!!
Becky
P.S. Andrea - yes Bob also eats turkey scratch I get at the feed store.
He also loves bread of any kind. He will take it from my hand, but he
won't let me touch him - yet :^). We do have a couple sheds but I
don't think he will go in. If it rains or is cold he sits under our
deck. Since we live in California, we don't really have icy weather so
I guess he'll be OK.
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680.10 | Please let the authorities know | BRAT::MACDONALD_M | Toirneac Speir | Tue Dec 14 1993 11:05 | 15 |
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Becky,
I don't envy your situation but you might want to consider alerting
the authorities as to what has happened. Chances are Adam knows you
were upset about his leaving the dogs out. He may decide to leave them
locked in the house while he is away, alot worse as they will have no
food or water and will know doubt make a mess of the house, making
matters worse. As you can see it can become a viscious circle and I'm
sorry I can't offer any help. Difficult as it may be, the SPCA and
the local shelters are best able to deal with these types of problems.
Best of luck to you and please keep us informed.
MaryAnne
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680.11 | Maybe someone did come over! | EARRTH::DREYER | Jingle my bells! | Tue Dec 14 1993 11:16 | 26 |
| Becky,
It also may be true that the kid who was coming over to feed the dogs couldn't
get them back in the house. Are you sure they weren't fed? Maybe he came at
an odd time of night and all the food was gone when you went looking. It would
have been nice if Adam had let you know ahead of time.
When I went to Florida for two weeks, a friend of mine was coming over to feed
my cats. When I got home, the cats were fine, and alot of food was gone. My
neighbor came over and told me no one *ever* came over to feed them, that she
was on her front porch the whole time I was gone. (Doesn't she ever sleep, cook,
bathe, etc?)!! She told me Buki was looking outside all day long (I think it
was my kitty pillow outline she saw that never moved), and that she felt so
sorry for them that she almost broke into the house to feed them. I thanked
her for her concern, and next time I went away had her take care of them!
My mom feed the cat from across the street, and when those neighbors went away,
the woman came over and told mom they were leaving for a week and that mom may
have to put out more food than usual. Mom has been feeding their cat for
about 5 years now, and they have never offered to give her any cat food.
Unbelievable, the nerve of some people!
I hope the situation that happened there is not as it appears!!
Good luck,
Laura
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680.12 | | ELWOOD::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Tue Dec 14 1993 12:02 | 11 |
| Weirdness around Adam. I don't know if I believe him or not,
though it could be. But gosh you'd think he's say something, as you're
neighbors, at least you'd be keeping an eye on the place while he was
gone. Sheesh!
I guess my Massachusetts-ism is showing; we had a little ice last
night, and our peacocks are inside. I was kind of wondering how a
"wild" peacock could survive the winter ... guess if it's a California
winter it's not so bad ;^) !
- Andrea
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680.13 | | NETWKS::GASKELL | | Wed Dec 15 1993 05:43 | 16 |
| Becky,
Adam's story doesn't sound to true to me either. Keep an eye on the
dogs and if you think they are not being fed (for at least two
consective days) let the SPCA know about it. It could be that there is
more business going on in that house than renovations.
Here in Massachusetts one of our neighbors was distributing drugs to
drug dealers. These people often use dogs to keep people away from the
property while they are away, and they are not dog lovers either. They
abandon their dogs at a drop of a hat, they are just "business equipment"
to them.
Anyway, thank goodness those dogs have you to look out for them. I
hope the problem resolves its self soon, for your sake. Best of luck.
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680.14 | | JULIET::LANE_BE | | Wed Dec 15 1993 11:42 | 41 |
| Well as much as I want to believe someone was coming over, I just
can't. Our houses are at the top of a hill and the only way to get to
them is up a small road. The road passes another neighbor's house at
the bottom of the hill. They also have 2 dogs, which go absolutely
nuts barking and jumping around when anyone - including their owners,
come up the road. We call them psycho dogs! They are basically our
door bell. If you hear them bark, someone or something is coming.
I was only out of the house for about 30 minutes the whole weekend, so
unless this kid showed up just then, or snuck in in the middle of the
night, without any dogs hearing them, he couldn't have been there.
Besides if he was, I would have seen some sign when I was walking
around. Like even a bowl for water! I am guessing Adam may have left
them out with food the first day, assuming they would not eat it all at
once. Ha- fool - they're dogs! We did call the SPCA but they can't
really do anything at this point. At least if anything else happens
they already have heard of this guy.
Oh well, all has been quiet, and Adam has been home. I haven't seen
either dogs, but I heard him talking to them last night and I did see
small, puppy size dogs prints on the porch this morning. We will keep
a real close watch on the situation. My cats are not very happy about
not getting to go outside anymore. I got a second cat box and they
give me this look like "what! a box, I haven't done this in years".
My two older ones are out of practice. They are used to really digging
in dirt and so now the litter just flies everywhere! :^) Wow, Mom
I didn't mean to fling that hard!
I also think they must be getting bored. Last night I took the kitten,
Sophie, and my youngest boy Stingo in the bedroom with me. I had been
wrapping Christmas packages and felt it was not safe to leave the young
kids lose with all that shiny paper. Well this morning I found my
oldest cat sitting in the middle of the packages, chewing a bow. About
half of the bows from the packages were all around the room. WHO ME?!
She has really been acting like a kitten the past few days. Or else
she has a secret stash of catnip somewhere!
Becky
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