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647.1 | Some comfort, it is not a painful way to die | REFDV1::ESULLIVAN | | Thu Nov 04 1993 07:54 | 26 |
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Len,
I had a Siamese cat that lived to the age of 21 human years. She
finally died of kidney failure. Several times I brough her to my vet
becuase Mai-ling would be de-hydrated -symptoms as you described in
your note. Each time, Mai-ling received water (saline solution???)
subcutaneously (I think), and she repsonded well to this treatment.
Plenty of fresh water was available for her to drink at all times.
My vet said that I could 'put her down', because I may have to keep
bringing her in repeated times for the treatment. I opted to keep up
treatment. I didn't have the heart to put her to sleep. The vet said
that my cat was not in pain to naturally die this way (I forgot what
the technical term for this type of gradual kidney failure was), so I
decided to continue with the treatment, which was ocassional over a two -
three year period. Eventually, Mai-ling died peacefully one afternoon at
home. I knew that she was dying and she was comforted throughout the
afternoon with a lot of TLC from me.
Eleanor
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647.2 | Best Wishes for Chunky | TIMBER::AIKEY | | Thu Nov 04 1993 08:54 | 8 |
| Hi Len,
I'll keep my fingers crossed for Chunky. It is such a hard thing to go
through. I'm sure Sandy will do what is best for him..
Best wishes,
*joyce
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647.3 | (Too) Familiar Turf | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | len, Engineering Technical Office | Thu Nov 04 1993 09:27 | 19 |
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Merlin (my 18 year old) has tired kidneys and has been in several times
for subcutaneous fluids (mostly when he's stopped eating for other
reasons, like when he caught the URI that the kittens brought home with
them and he got a sore throat and laryngitis). He's always rebounded
well. Chunky looks much worse off though (and his bloodwork results
were much worse than Merlin's), so while I'm not ready to give up on him,
I'm also prepared for the worst.
Well, as prepared as one can be. I've known him since Sandy adopted him
as a wee kitten, and she will rely heavily on my advice, since I went
through this a few years back with Wabbit. "Chunks" is an old friend of
mine and I will try to look out for *his* best interests rather than
ours. He's certainly not as bad off as Wabbit was in her final days
(she had almost total kidney failure, diabetes, and recurring bladder
infections, but she was such a fighter that we hung in there until it
was clearly not fair to her any longer).
len.
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647.4 | If fluids will help... | WECARE::FALLON | | Thu Nov 04 1993 10:12 | 9 |
| Len,
I am sorry to read about Chunky, please tell Sandy I send best wishes.
It is not difficult at all to give sub-q fluids. It is called Ringers
Lactate and comes in plastic pouches. You would get a syring from the
vet that hopefully will be able to hold the proper amount of cc's
needed each time. Hint: if you have to give more than 30cc's at a
time it is quicker if it is a larger guage needle. It is painless
to the cat. Good luck....
Karen
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647.5 | | MAYES::MERRITT | Kitty City | Thu Nov 04 1993 10:30 | 16 |
| Len..best wishes to Chunky too!!! But believe me...nobody had
looked as bad as Mr. Meow looked when we first brought him home.
He went from 12 pounds...to 5 pounds and was just skin and bones.
His backbone and ribs showed completely and his back legs could
no longer hold him up. His eyes were totally sunk in..he had
stopped eating...and his fur was like hay and was turning rusty
red. (ask Yonee...he looked like death??)
But...for some darn reason Mr. Meow still wasn't ready to give up
and has completely turned around once again. I know someday Mr.
Meow won't have the strength or will to live....but this time
around he wasn't ready to give up.
Please keep us posted...and give both Sandy and Chunky a hug!!
Sandy
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647.6 | Meowser is doing great now!... | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I have PMS and a handgun ;-) | Thu Nov 04 1993 11:50 | 14 |
| I can sure vouch for how bad Mr. Meow looked a while back! I couldn't
believe he was still fighting! Now his fur is SSOOOO soft, and he's
such a love bug! What a guy!
Len, I know you and Sandy will make the right decision based on how
Chunky is doing, and the test results from the vet. You'll know when
the time is right.
Please give my best to Sandy, and hugs to everyone in your households!
My thoghts are with you.
Love,
Yonee
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647.7 | | SOFBAS::SHERMAN | C2508 | Thu Nov 04 1993 12:28 | 5 |
| Best wishes ...
ken and karen
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647.8 | | ASABET::MANDERSON | | Fri Nov 05 1993 06:03 | 7 |
| How is Chunky this morning and what was the prognosis at the Dr's
office?
Keeping fingers/paws crossed that everything is okay.
Marilyn
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647.9 | Waiting for the Details | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | len, Engineering Technical Office | Fri Nov 05 1993 07:37 | 38 |
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There's some "sort of good" news, but mostly we're waiting to hear about
the results of the blood work tommorrow morning.
The good news (which actually isn't that good because it makes Chunky's
decline that much more precipitous) is that Sandy misunderstood what
Dr. Stuer told her during Chunky's last visit; she thought when he told
her that by the time cats show overt symptoms of kidney failure they
have lost about 75% of their kidney function that he meant Chunky had
lost 75% of his kidney function. As it turns out, the blood work done
then showed that he had lost some kidney function, but not enough to be
concerned about.
However, he's down from 12 pounds to 8.4, and he looks terrible. His
magnificent grey coat is reddish and tattered. His eyes still sparkle,
and he's still friendly "up to a point", but the examination was not
encouraging. He's presenting all the classic symptoms of kidney
failure - weight loss, appetite loss, irregular kidney shape, ammonia
on the breath. In addition, he has some mouth sores, and if I recall
correctly from the Cornell book, that and seizures can be symptomatic of
kidney failure. This was his second seizure in six months (he's never
had one before). He's never had any medical problems 'til now (he's led
a charmed life since the day he showed up on Sandy's sister's doorstep),
so he probably doesn't know what to make of all this unpleasant
attention.
While talking with Dr. Stuer, we learned that Pye(wacket), the
Westborough Animal Hospital office cat, passed away in her sleep two
weeks ago at the age of 17. Pye was one of the mellowest cats I've
ever come across (the only one that comes close is the big black angora
that lives at Mama's Fish House on Maui) - she would sleep peacefully
in her basket on the counter on the *dog* side of the front office,
totally oblivious to everything going on around her, letting anyone pet
her. I had no idea she was that old. She will be greatly missed by the
Hospital staff. I'd like to add her to the SLM list.
len.
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647.10 | Pye will be first? | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I have PMS and a handgun ;-) | Fri Nov 05 1993 09:24 | 13 |
| Len,
As I've just sent this quarter's fund out, would having Pye be the
first name on this quarter be acceptable?
No offense to Pye, but I HATE having to start the list already! :-( I
suppose it was inevitable, but I was hoping for at least one day! Let's
try real hard to keep this quarter's list down to a minimum, OK? Last
quarter was an emotional roller coaster for us all!
Love,
Yonee
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647.11 | An Honor of Sorts | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | len, Engineering Technical Office | Fri Nov 05 1993 09:33 | 5 |
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Sure.
len.
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647.12 | We Can't Believe He's Gone | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | len, Engineering Technical Office | Mon Nov 08 1993 06:31 | 56 |
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Chunky is at peace. He was much loved and will be greatly missed.
Sandy asked me to talk to Dr. Stuer about Chunky's test results, because
of my past experience with Wabbit and Merlin's kidney problems. Dr.
Stuer called with the blood work results late Saturday afternoon. They
were very bad, so bad that it was a wonder that Chunky was functioning
at all. Dr. Stuer said he had never seen numbers this high in an
active cat. Some of the blood factors were eight times normal levels.
I asked if subcutaneous fluid therapy would help, and he said even IV
fluids would not be worth the discomfort to Chunky. I asked the
obvious question of how long before Chunky was bad off enough that we
should consider euthanising him, and to my dismay, his prognosis was
that Chunky had at most a few days before he became very sick. After I
hung up the phone, I started to cry, and all my cats came to see what
was wrong. I called Sandy and told her that Chunky was dying, but that
Dr. Stuer honestly believed he wasn't in any pain yet. She didn't want
him to suffer needlessly, so we agreed we'd take him in Monday
afternoon.
Chunky spent most of Friday and Saturday hiding, and by Sunday morning
he was throwing up and had had another seizure. He was noticeably
weaker. It was clear to both Sandy and me that waiting even just one
more day would be unfair to him. Sandy asked me to call Dr. Stuer and
see if we could bring Chunky in that afternoon. I had Dr. Stuer paged
and he agreed to meet us at the Hospital after he dealt with another
emergency at their Grafton office. A little after noon, Dr. Stuer
called and said he was done in Grafton, so we arranged to meet him at 1.
Driving to the office, Chunky was alert and seemed to enjoy the warmth
of the sun. His eyes sparkled in the sunlight.
We were both with him when he passed away.
We honored his passing with the finale of Nikolai Myaskovsky's Symphony
No. 6, a setting of the Russian folksong "As the Soul Departs from the
Body":
How do we see a wonderful portent,
a good omen,
in a lifeless body? -
since the soul, the breath of life,
leaves the body and submits to God's judgement,
forsaking the body for burial in the earth.
This solemn and deeply moving chorus yields to an ascent of ineffable
beauty, ending the Symphony in everlasting peace and harmony.
Chunky
February 1978 - November 1993
He was such a good cat.
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647.13 | I'm so very sorry.... | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I have PMS and a handgun ;-) | Mon Nov 08 1993 06:38 | 11 |
| Len,
As I sit here in tears, I am feeling much sorrow for you and Sandy.
How wonderful of you to release him before he truly suffered, but how
hard it must have been for you. My heart goes out to you both.
Chunky is being added to the Silver Lining Memorial.
Love,
Yonee
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647.14 | Chunky had the BEST "friends" he could ever ask for! | MVDS00::BELFORTI | PFYOWS | Mon Nov 08 1993 06:50 | 8 |
| How wonderful for Chunky to have humans like you, who care enough to do
his suffering for him, and will let him go in peace!!!!
My heart goes out to you... as well as my admiration!
Huge HUGS,
M-L
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647.15 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Mon Nov 08 1993 06:54 | 12 |
| Len...I am also sitting here with tears and want to send both
you and Sandy my sincere sympathy. Chunky's life was full of
love and you sent him to kitty heaven without any suffering
and pain. He is now at peace with many of our beloved friends
who will show him the way to everlasting love.
This hurts...because I know this day will come for Mr. Meow
and I hope I'm strong enough to make that final decision and
give him the peace he deserves. It hurts...even when they
are old !!
Hugs to you....Sandy
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647.16 | Sympathies... | SALEM::SHAW | | Mon Nov 08 1993 06:55 | 5 |
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Len (and Sandy), my deepest sympathies. Chunky was lucky to have two
wonderful people with him till the last minute.
Shaw
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647.17 | Sympathies... | PNEUMA::AIKEY | | Mon Nov 08 1993 07:06 | 11 |
| Len, Sandy,
My heart goes out to the both of you. I lost Rocky and Tanya over the
summer with kidney and liver damage. I know how hard it is to let them go.
My deepest sympathies go out to the both of you.
*joyce
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647.18 | pass the tissues.... | WECARE::FALLON | | Mon Nov 08 1993 09:53 | 7 |
| Sandy and Len,
I am so sorry...
Your strength and kindness is what allowed Chunky to have such a
wonderful life with you both. I am glad that you were able to
be there for him.
Pawpats,
Karen
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647.19 | | ELWOOD::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Mon Nov 08 1993 10:00 | 3 |
| My deepest condolences to you both.
- Andrea
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647.20 | | JULIET::RUSSELLPE_ST | | Mon Nov 08 1993 10:48 | 4 |
| Len, Sandy, my deepest sympathies to you both. Chunky was a very lucky
cat to have you as his "parents". He knew how much he is loved.
Steffi
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647.21 | | EMASS::SKALTSIS | Deb | Tue Nov 09 1993 14:00 | 4 |
| my deepest condolences.
Deb
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647.22 | A New Beginning | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | len, Engineering Technical Office | Wed Nov 17 1993 09:44 | 60 |
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Sandy asked me to thank you all for your thoughts and support. It
really meant a lot to both of us after making and implementing one of
the most difficult decisions any of us can ever face.
We know it will be a long time before we can talk about Chunky without
tears, but life goes on and we make new feline friends.
Last Saturday morning after we left the show in Marlborough, Sandy said
"let's stop at the Hopkinton shelter, it's not far from here". She had
been talking mostly about looking for a pet quality pedigreed kitten at
the shows, but I kept suggesting we check a few shelters, especially
since I found three of the most wonderful "mixed breed" kittens in the
whole Universe at a shelter, and there were lots of kittens and cats
that needed good homes.
So we stopped at the shelter. There were two adorable little kittens
right in front, but the staff said, "come on, there are more back
here".
I could have taken a half dozen cats home that morning, but I resisted.
But Sandy couldn't. There was a young male cat who'd just arrived the
day before. He'd been abandoned in a vacated apartment, presumably by
the former residents, his former owners. He looked so much like Chunky
that we both started to cry on the spot. He was very friendly, in
excellent health, neutered, declawed, up to date on his shots. They
were planning to take him to the show on Sunday in hopes of getting
him quickly adopted, as he was "prime adoption" material. We took him
out of his cage and held him for a while.
We took him home.
He doesn't have a name yet. He and Caspar Kelly accommodated to one
another in a matter of hours. He's an incredibly good natured cat.
He's apparently been taught to stay off the furniture, but he sleeps
beside Sandy and purrs up a storm. Sandy says it's uncanny how many of
Chunky's habits he shares; he sits in the same places. does the same
things. It's almost like he's been briefed, and he looks like he could
have been sired by Chunky. (Actually, his face looks like Merlin's
except for his eye color; we seem to have a weakness for big grey cats,
or, in Rocky's case, a "gonna-be" big grey cat.)
He went to the vet yesterday for his first checkup. We're waiting for
the FIV and FeLV test results (he looks so healthy, and as a solitary
indoor cat we'd be astounded if they were positive). Dr. Stuer
estimates his age at about three or four years, and he's in excellent
health except for a bad tooth or two.
Sandy wanted to call him Sweetheart, because he *is* such a sweetheart,
but I and the hospital staff have pretty much convinced her that he
deserves a bit more masculine name (our apologies to Holly and
Sweetie). The current front runner is (Rudy) Valentinose, because of
his heart shaped nose leather.
We know we can never "replace" Chunky, but he lives on in spirit,
especially with our new found friend to carry on in his tradition.
len (for Sandy and Caspar Kelly and the new guy).
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647.23 | Valentinose! I love that! | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I have PMS and a handgun ;-) | Wed Nov 17 1993 09:59 | 20 |
| Len!
How wonderful that Valentinose (gotta love it!) found you and Sandy
like that! ;-) It seems like it was destiny that this match was made.
Sandy did seem to have her heart set on a pure bred. Shelter kitties
can do that to you though! If I didn't volunteer, I'd have a house full
myself!
Please tell Sandy how happy I am for her, and for you. Chunky will
always be with you, but it sure seems like this new guy WAS pre-
programmed by SOMEONE! Hmmmmm, could it be? Believe it!
Good luck, and enjoy your new addition. He seems to be fitting in
better than you could have dreamed!
Love,
Yonee (who totally forgot about the show that was held about three
miles from her house, and missed seeing you both! :-()
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647.24 | Clean Bill of health | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | len, Engineering Technical Office | Fri Nov 19 1993 06:58 | 10 |
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Yesterday we got the wonderful news that Rudolf Valentinose is FIV and
FeLV negative.
He goes in in three weeks for a tooth extraction; maybe I'll bring
Rocky in at the same time for his neutering, so the big grey boys can
keep one another company and commiserate.
len.
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647.25 | I like good news! | FILM::COLAIANNI | I have PMS and a handgun ;-) | Fri Nov 19 1993 07:48 | 11 |
| Len!
Great news that the tests came back negative! Give him a big hug from
me!
Try to convince Rocky that he's only going to the vet to keep Mr.
Velentinose company! Yeah, right! ;-)
Yonee
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647.26 | I like "Rudy" | WECARE::FALLON | | Fri Nov 19 1993 12:39 | 5 |
| Len,
"Rudy" sounds wonderful!!!! You guys are lucky to have found him.
Things always seem to work out in the end for everybody. Enjoy him
and love him.
Karen
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