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Title:Meower Power - Where Differing Opinions are Respected
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Moderator:JULIET::CORDES_JA
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1079
Total number of notes:28858

607.0. "Big Wild Cats" by JURA::BULLOWS () Thu Sep 16 1993 02:19

    Can anyone list the wild cars in America and Costa Rica.
    
    Secondly, is the panther in the Evergaldes still fighting for survival,
    or did it go extinct.
    
    Cheers Nick
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607.1Florida Panther's extinct? Not quite.....STUDIO::COLAIANNII have PMS and a handgun ;-)Thu Sep 16 1993 05:1017
    Nick,
    
     I don't have a list of the wild cats at this time, but I do have a
    bit of info on the Floridas Panther.
    
     I believe there are still about a dozen (maybe a bit more) left, and
    most of those are in captivity. About a year ago they discovered I
    htinkg three more, one of which was a young male, and hopes soared.
    
     They are so very secretive in their existence, that researchers don't
    really know if they have a proper head count or not. But to answer your
    question, no they are not extinct, but are just barely hanging on at
    this time.
    
     Hope this helps.
    
    Yonee
607.2Wild Cars across the pondRUTILE::MURRELLThu Sep 16 1993 08:214
                                           
    
    A Saab 9000 Turbo is pretty wild in any country but for the
    Glades I would recommend an old Land Rover (turbo).
607.3POWDML::MANDILEmedium and messyThu Sep 16 1993 08:425
    
    We also have here in the U.S.:
    
    Mountain lions (also called a cougar), Bobcats, and Lynx...
    
607.4I teeny bit more info....STUDIO::COLAIANNII have PMS and a handgun ;-)Thu Sep 16 1993 10:5925
    
    Lynne, 
    
    I knew that, I just didn't want to be wrong! ;-) Kidding! I actually
    thought there might be more, and I couldn't think of them, so I
    chickened out of answering at all! 8-} Actually, I believe
    that the Florida Panther is some member of the
    cougar/mountain lion/puma family. It 'looks' just like a cougar. I
    don't know what the genetic differences are, but I'm sure they are
    related somehow.
    
    I remember being very disappointed the first time I saw a picture of a
    Florida Panther. When I saw the signs on the roads down there that
    read "Panther Crossing" we were looking for big black 'panthers' in the
    sense of a black leopard! I was not expecting to see a cougar in the
    picture! ;-) My Dad explained it all to me, and I felt better after
    that. At least I know what I'm looking for now!
    
    My brother-in-law, (who lives in Naples) fishes a lot in out of the way
    places down there, and actually saw one once. It went down to the water
    to get a drink about 100 feet away from him! I'd kill to see one of
    those in the wild! Of course it would have to be a person, cause I'd
    never kill a critter! ;-)
    
    Yonee
607.5Our Most Magnificent CatDRUMS::FEHSKENSlen, Engineering Technical OfficeFri Sep 17 1993 08:3714
    
    The "Florida Panther" is a local species of Cougar (Mountain Lion,
    Catamount, Puma).  Because it's an isolated population that doesn't breed
    with other populations its named separately, but it's basically the
    same cat.
    
    Because of the size of the population these cats (like the African
    cheetah) are in serious genetic trouble.  It's a very depressing story.
    There was a substantial article on these cats sometime in the last year
    or two in National Geographic.  I'll try to get a more specific
    reference.
    
    len.
    
607.6ThanksJURA::BULLOWSFri Sep 17 1993 09:0818
    Thanks for the replies about the panthers, I won the bet on big cats in
    the USA. 
    
    Are you also an authority on the Manatees that are living dangerously in 
    the warm radioactive water from the nuclear power stations on the
    Floida coast. How many Manatees are there now ? Last time I was in
    Florida they estimated less than 1000.
    
    
    <<< I'd kill to see one of those in the wild! Of course it would have
    to be a person, cause I'd never kill a critter! ;-) >>>
    
    Does that explain the demise of the European tourist in Florida. :-)
    
    The bet is still unresolved about the Big Cats in Costa Rica. 
    
    
     Cheers Nick
607.7I'm innocent I tell ya!.... ;-)STUDIO::COLAIANNII have PMS and a handgun ;-)Fri Sep 17 1993 09:1817
    Hi,
    
     Nope! That wasn't me! I haven't been anywhere near Florida this year!
    ;-) Anyway, I could think of better people to bump off than innocent
    foreign tourists! Like maybe the people who ARE bumping them off? 8-) ;-)
    
     Anyway, I don't really have any recent info on the manatees. I know
    they are still holding their own in the wild, but again, just barely.
    Sigh, why do so many humans think they are the only ones worthy of life
    or being cared for? So sad.... I could give up a beach or a boat ride
    to save other ceatures in a heartbeat. Why is it so hard for so many?
    
     I guess this should have gone in the WHINE note, but.... I'm pretty
    WHINY today I guess! :-}
    
     Yonee
    
607.8Jaguar = Wild Car!DRUMS::FEHSKENSlen, Engineering Technical OfficeFri Sep 17 1993 09:5410
    
    Regarding Costa Rica, my memory isn't that specific, but the big cats
    in Central and South America include the Ocelot, Jaguar and Jaguarondi.
    I believe there's a very large Jaguar preserve in Belize.
    
    I have a fairly substantial library on big cats, so I'll check on this
    and post on Monday.
    
    len.
    
607.9ASABET::MANDERSONFri Sep 17 1993 10:2916
    My folks live in Bradenton, Florida and my Mom volunteers her time at
    the local Aquarium.  They have a resident Manatee ... who had been
    injured by a motorboat blade(s) and people from all over come in to
    see him.  (She talks about him all the time and for the life of me I 
               cannot remember his name.)
    
    Part of the proceeds of this Aquarium goes to the preservation of
    these marvelous (gentle) animals.  Although they are now an endangered
    species I believe they are NOT bred in captivity as is the case of
    some animals (i.e., white tiger, penguins, panda bears, etc.).
    
    If anyone wants, I can have her send me some material and I'll post
    it in here.  Just say the word.
    
    Marilyn
     
607.10That Puma is a distant relative of your house cat!FSTCAT::COMEFORDI&#039;d rather be a Bandit than a Bogey...Fri Sep 17 1993 10:3912
The Puma/mountain lion/panther/catamount are in the family Felis,
and are the largest member of that family. I believe the different namings
are due to slightly different markings from long physical isolation from the
rest of the species, sort of like cat breeds (Siamese and tabbys still
inter breed (if allowed) even they look quite different).Most of the North
American cats (lynx, bobcat etc.) are also members of Felis. A more familiar
member of this familyis Felis Cattus, aka the common house cat. The classic
asian/european/African big cats are all in another family (panthera ?).
I haven't a clue to what family the Jaguar and the south american cats belong.

Keith
(a confirmed nature show addict :-) )
607.11Cats of the WorldDRUMS::FEHSKENSlen, Engineering Technical OfficeMon Sep 20 1993 10:3189
    	cheetah				acinonyx jubata

    	lion		       		panthera leo
    	tiger				panthera tigris
    	leopard				panthera pardus
    	jaguar				panthera onca
    	snow leopard			panthera uncia
    	clouded leopard			neofelis nebulosa
    	marbled cat			felis marmorata
    	North American lynx		lynx canadensis
    	bobcat				lynx rufus
    	Eurasian lynx			lynx lynx
    	Spanish lynx			lynx pardinus
    	caracal				lynx caracal

    	serval				felis serval
    	African golden cat		felis aurata
    	Asian (Temminck's) golden cat	felis temmincki
    	leopard cat              	felis bengalensis
    	fishing cat			felis viverrina
    	flat-headed cat			felis planiceps
    	rusty-spotted cat		felis rubiginosa
    	bay cat, bornean red cat	felis badia
    	Iriomote cat			felis iriomotensis
    	jaguarundi			felis yagouaroundi
    	puma, mountain lion cougar	felis concolor
    	ocelot				felis pardalis
    	margay				felis wiedii
    	oncilla				felis tigrina
    	kodkod				felis guigna
    	Geoffroy's cat			felis geoffroyi
    	Andean mountain cat		felis jacobita
    	pampas cat			felis colocolo
    	wild cat			felis silvestris (includes f.s. libyaca)
        Pallas' cat			felis manul
    	jungle cat			felis chaus
    	black-footed cat		felis nigripes
    	sand cat			felis margarita
    	Chinese desert cat		felis bieti

    The domestic cat is a variant of Felis Silvestris, F.s. catus


    Current habitats:

    	Puma, mountain lion, cougar	North/South America
    	Cheetah				Africa
    	Lion				Africa
    	Tiger				Asia
    	Jaguar				Central/South America
    	Leopard				Africa, Asia
    	Marbled cat			India, nepal, Sumatra, Borneo et al
    	Clouded leopard			Malaysia, Sumatra, Borneo
    	Snow leopard			Central Asia
    	Bobcat				North America
    	Jaguarundi			South America
    	North American Lynx		Canada, Alaska
    	Caracal				Africa, Middle East, India
    	Serval				Africa
    	Spanish Lynx			Spain
    	Eurasian Lynx			Northern Europe, Asia
    	African Golden Cat		Africa
    	Asian Golden Cat		Southeast Asia, Malaysia, Sumatra
    	Leopard Cat			East Asia
    	Fishing Cat			Southeast Asia
    	Flat-headed cat			Malaysia, Borneo, Sumatra, et al
    	Rusty-spotted cat		Southern India
    	Bornean Red Cat			Borneo
    	Iriomote Cat			Iriomote Island
    	Ocelot				Central/South America
    	Oncilla				South America
    	Margay				Central/South America
    	Pampas Cat			Southwestern South America
    	Andean Mountain Cat		Andes Mountains
    	Geoffroy's Cat			Bolivian Andes
    	Kodkod				small areas of Chile/Argentina
    	Wild cat			Africa, Middle East
    	Pallas' Cat			Central Asia
    	Jungle Cat			Egypt, Middle East, India, Indochina
    	Chinese Desert Cat		Central Sichuan, Inner Mongolia (China)
    	Black-footed cat		South Africa
    	Sand Cat			Northern Sahara, Middle East

    (from Great Cats, Rodale, ISBN 0-87857-965-6; one of the most beautiful
    books on cats I have ever found.  $40 at The Nature Company)

    len.