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512.1 | Merlin Wants to Know! | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | len, EMA, LKG1-2/W10 | Mon Mar 08 1993 11:37 | 5 |
| T.T.E.A.M.? "Touch methods"? Can you elaborate further for us
uninitiated?
len.
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512.2 | | MAYES::MERRITT | Kitty City | Mon Mar 08 1993 11:45 | 28 |
| I enjoyed myself as well...even if we had to shovel the street so
everyone could make it up my hill, my VCR ate one of Patty's tapes,
and my husband walked off with Patty's shoes!! Oh what a great
day we had!!!!
I did enjoy the day and truly enjoyed learning the different touches...
and can't wait to use some of them on my furfaces. The funniest part
was Patty was trying to help me with Van Gogh who loves people...but
hates other animals. She suggested using a stuffed animal to do the
touches with VG....and I just smiled because I didn't believe it would
work. Well as I was holding VG she took the paw of one of the
stuffed animals and just touched VG. Well if you could have seen the
look to kill on his face....it was truly amazing...I swear he thought
it was another cat. So..VG and I will be playing with stuffed animals
for awhile and once he gets use to that...we will attempt it with
a real kitty!!
If anyone would like a copy of the documentation I received that
explains the touches...and when to use what touch...I'd be more then
happy to provide you with copies. If you ever have a chance to
attend one of these workshops....I think it was a fun relaxing day
and you will learn alot! These touches work great with people too!!
Sandy
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512.3 | It was wonderful, especially on me! ;-) | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I think, thereforeI think I am... | Mon Mar 08 1993 11:59 | 24 |
| I 'll third that motion! I had a great time too. It was time well spent
too. I have been using the circles on my Finnigan, aka the Curmudgeon,
akla Mudgehead! He has been chewing on me less already. He loves it
when I rub his toes especially.
The T.T.E.A.M. Is the Tellington Touch System, which originated with
horses, but it was idscovered that it works on all animals as well as
people.
It involves touching the animal using light circular motions, which
does somehting to the nerves, and efeects the animal, usually in a
positive way.
Furby bites me when I di it to her, and Feendoonie isn't too sure about
it yet, but Yonee absolutely loves it! ;-) "I" was making kitty
bisquits while Nancy Cross was practicing on me! ;-)
It's worth going to if you have the opportunity.
Thanks to Sandy for offering her house, and to Ernie for shoveling the
street so we could all get there. It was good to meet some fellow
FELINERs, as well as just animal lovers.
Yonee
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512.4 | copies? somebody say copies? | MEMIT::YOUNG_J | | Mon Mar 08 1993 17:48 | 15 |
| Re: 512.2 --
Hi, Sandy -- I would love to see the descriptions; have you got hard
copies? (I'm at MLO1-5/B94, if you do ....)
re: V.G.'s expression upon being stroked by stuffed critterpaw .... I
can just see the look on his face!
Now, Harry wouldn't tolerate that too well (yet ... he's learning); but
BABYCAKES, well, she just loves to cuddle up to other furpersons, and
she'd probably love it!
/jy
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512.5 | | NETWKS::GASKELL | | Tue Mar 09 1993 06:02 | 4 |
| Sandy, I would like a copy please, Rosemary Gaskell LKG2-1/N2.
I didn't know this was being offered or I would have loved to come.
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512.6 | | MAYES::MERRITT | Kitty City | Tue Mar 09 1993 06:29 | 7 |
| Oh sorry you missed it...I had originally put the note regarding
the workshop in the Pat Brody Shelter note...but I guess I should
have started a new note so it would have been more obvious.
I'll forward you copies of the documentation.
Sandy
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512.7 | Our thanks too | DEVMKO::BROWN_J | I llove my llamas! | Tue Mar 09 1993 09:22 | 19 |
| We would like to join those who are thanking Sandy for
the loan of her house (complete with cats, tape-eating-
VCR and shoe-stealing-husband). It was great to meet
some of the people we know by name but have never met
from FELINE, and of course meeting Sandy's cats that
we've read so much about.
The training was interesting too, and we've just started
trying it out on our tribe. One conclusion so far is
that it's easier to do on a person's back than it is on
a small squirming kitty! Our oldest cat, George, was
quite content to lie in my lap purring and drooling
while I made circles on him to help his arthritic hip
but Barry the Maine coon was too busy rolling around in
ecstasy about being petted to get many circles done on
him...
Jan
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512.8 | Me too! | SAHQ::SINATRA | | Tue Mar 09 1993 11:46 | 9 |
| Sandy,
I'd like a copy too please if it's no trouble - Rebecca Sinatra
ALF2/3K1. (I've been read only 'til now, guess I'd better introduce my
kitty babies!)
Thank you!
Rebecca
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512.9 | me fourth?fifth? | FSOA::DJANCAITIS | New Year, NEW ME !! | Tue Mar 09 1993 14:48 | 9 |
|
Sandy,
I'd like a copy too please if it's no trouble - MRO01-2/M25.
Sorry I missed it but hope to join up with other Feliners at
one of these get-togethers sometime soon !!!
Debbi J
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512.10 | I had fun too! | MODEL::CROSS | | Wed Mar 10 1993 10:29 | 15 |
|
Better late than never, but thankyou Sandy for letting us use your
home! I loved meeting "The Happy Cat" even though he was less than
thrilled at the sight of me. :-) And Yonee, it was a joy giving you
an all-day back rub! ha ha ha
I, too, practiced the movements on my kittens at home and already I
have made great gains with my latest feral, Emily. I can touch her
hindquarters now with no more biting on her part, and only an
occasional turn of the head to look at me with a "o.k., you are
starting to worry me" face.
So thanks again, Sandy.
Nancy
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512.11 | | MAYES::MERRITT | Kitty City | Wed Mar 10 1993 12:30 | 13 |
| Actually Cindy Fisher did all the coordination...so she should be
the one getting all the Thank you's!!!
The Happy Cat that Nancy mentioned is my wonderful wild feral in
my basement who has lived down there for over a month...and he still
HATES me!! I can't even attempt the "touches" with him because I can't
get near him....but Ernie just made me a few of those wands out of
wooden dowels...so we are going to start "touching" him with those!!!
I can just picture him chewing the wood in half!!!!
Sandy
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512.12 | How did he make your wands? | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I think, thereforeI think I am... | Wed Mar 10 1993 12:51 | 15 |
| Sandy,
Your Poophead Happy Cat is very handsome though! ;-) Can you describe
how Ernie made your wands? I would like some to use on the ferals at my
shelter, but have no intention on spending 24.00 apiece for them!
YIKES!
Shadow is coming along slowly, and is getting used to poles being
shoved at him, as that's the only way to give him a treat! ;-) I could
either have Nick make me some from dowels, or do it myself maybe.
Thanks in advance for any info on the wands/dowels.
Yonee
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512.13 | "mr Happy Cat" | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Thu Mar 11 1993 05:19 | 18 |
|
I doubt our wands will work the same...but atleast we can give it
a shot!! All we did was find two long thin wooden dowels and
attached a few long feathers at the end! So far "My Handsome
Happy cat" isn't to thrilled with them or me!!!
Maryann suggested that instead of trying to get to him...just sit
down there and totally ignore him!! Well we have been trying
this...and it is amazing that he does come down from the rafters
and walks by to "check me out". (without hissing...) By just
sitting there....he has even eaten in front of me!!!
If he only knew...all I want to do is capture him...bring him to
the vets for checkup,test,neuter and I plan on giving him his freedom
back! I just can't catch him in my basement!!
Sandy
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512.14 | I remember what they remind me of... | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I think, thereforeI think I am... | Thu Mar 11 1993 05:28 | 7 |
| I just remembered what those wands reminded me of! Carraige whips for
horse carraiges! I wonder if those are any cheaper than the stuff on
the sales list Patty gave us.
Hmmm, a trip to Agway at lunch may be in order! ;-)
Yonee
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512.15 | Just don't call 'em "cat whips" | DEVMKO::BROWN_J | I llove my llamas! | Thu Mar 11 1993 06:06 | 16 |
| Yonee, you are absolutely right about the "wands". We
had asked Patty about them, like what they were made of,
etc. and she basically said they are "dressage whips"
(did I spell that right?). I found "driving whips" in
one of my llama supply catalogs for $9, and they look
just like the wands to me -- but much cheaper, and I
think these are black. I didn't know Agway carried
stuff like that, great suggestion!
My husband tried to make a joke with Patty and said,
"Oh, you mean they're really cat whips" and she gave
him SUCH a look -- I don't think she thought that was
funny at all...
Jan
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512.16 | All cats to ring 5 for Dressage! ;-) | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I think, thereforeI think I am... | Thu Mar 11 1993 06:38 | 17 |
| Hi Jan!
Yup! Dressage whips! That's what I was thinking too. I'm not sure if
Agway has these, but I know they have a lot of tack and stuff on one
wall, (at least in Northboro) so I'm going to check it out.
I knew I could get them cheaper than 24.00 apiece! The prices on that
list are outrageous! PLus it would be 6.95 shipping. A grand total of
54.95 for two 'wands'. If I don't find them at Agway, do you think you
could send me a copy of the order form with the number and price and
stuff, so I could order some for my shelter?
Thanks for the info! Kitty whips indeed! ;-) I think they should start
a new class at the shows. Kittyy Dressage! 8-)
Yonee
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512.17 | I can just about train my cat to eat and sleep!!!! | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Thu Mar 11 1993 07:11 | 14 |
|
> Thanks for the info! Kitty whips indeed! ;-) I think they should start
> a new class at the shows. Kittyy Dressage! 8-)
Well, I've heard of some things in my time, but if anyone thinks
that they could train their cat to do dressage with a stick with
feathers on the end,
Then I want to be there with my camera!!!!!!!!!
Heather
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512.18 | Ok owners, back those cats up! Yeah, right! | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I think, thereforeI think I am... | Thu Mar 11 1993 07:20 | 9 |
| I hear you! The real 'wands' don't really have feathers on them though.
I can't imagine the Tellington Touch thing could even train cats for
dressage! It's pretty powerful too!
I'll let others know what I find out at Agway about the wands. I'm
going to shoot over there at lunch time. I want to fill my car up
before the next storm hits anyway. ;-)
Yonee
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512.19 | it all takes time!! | MKOTS4::MACDONALD | Toirneac Speir | Thu Mar 11 1993 07:22 | 17 |
|
Patience Sandy!!!! It sounds like you're making some progress! It
will take awhile for hime to get comfortable. Remember to visualize
positive things, like scratching his chin, of playing with a toy.
If he's eating in front of you, give him time to finish most of his
food, then start talking to him, quietly and slowly. Tell him what
you are doing for him, explain that it will be much easier if he helps
out, that he'll feel better after the vet visit even though it might be
uncomfortable for awhile. And he will eventually have the choice of
going back out. Sounds sort of crazy but it really does work! Are you
using the rescue remedy? You may also want to try some catnip with
him. Sometimes it helps them to let down the defenses.
I've been wondering how Amos, at the shelter is doing. I hope we will
be able to get together with Priscilla. Keep me posted.
MaryAnne
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512.20 | BooBoo The Great Huntress... | SALEM::SHAW | | Thu Mar 11 1993 07:30 | 29 |
|
RE: stick with string and feathers on the end :-)
Sorry if this is not the right place to ask, moderator please move
where appropriate, but since the subject came up, here is my concern.
I picked up a few of those nitto toys from a fellow noter that happens
to work on same site as me (Thanks Mike!). Our BooBoo loves them.
She waits patiently everyday for me to come home and then she runs
upstairs and if I don't follow her, she keeps coming down, scratching
my legs and run back upstairs until I follow her. Then she goes to
the cabinet where we keep her toys and starts scratching at that
till I bring out the birdy thing. She just loves it and has not gotten
bored with it after playing/chasing it a few times a day for the past
couple of months. My concern is, she has gotten so good at chasing
this bird like thing and she can jump higher than she ever did.
A real athletic kitty. She is an indoor/outdoor cat, that
prefers to hang out in the garden in Spring/Summer when we're at work.
I am worried that she will be attacking all the beautiful birds, and
killing them, thinking they will get up and fly again just like the
toy. She certainly is a better hunter now with all the exercise she's
had through the Winter.
Does anyone else feel bad about the potential murderer instincts that
these toys bring out in cats? Am I guilty of training a hunter to be
fitter than any poor birdy could escape from. Isn't this a cruel
world?
Shaw
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512.21 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Thu Mar 11 1993 07:45 | 25 |
| Maryanne...
Patience is something I thought I had...but I think I'm slowly
loosing it!!!! But I do agree....patience..love ...and understanding
are the keys!!!
Lately I have been singing to him...(if anyone can hear me...they
would think I was crazy...anybody who knows me..knows I'm crazy)
but I make up cute "happy cat" songs that even have swears in them...
but I sing them nicely!!!
I put the rescue remedy in his water every day...but I'm not positive
he is really drinking alot of water. Can the rescue remedy be added
to the food because I know he eats that???? I'm also using the
rescue remedy for my outdoor cats too!!!
Priscilla and some of the other volunteers are very interested
in setting up a meeting with you...so hopefully I can coordinate
that sometime in the early spring.
Thanks for all your help ...and you were a wonderful partner to have
at the workshop!!!!
Sandy
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512.22 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Thu Mar 11 1993 07:49 | 13 |
| Shaw...
My guess is your kitty would attack the birds even if you hadn't
been playing with the toy!! Some kitties just have hunting instincts..
and others do not!! My females are the best hunters!!!
Do I feel bad when they catch an animal??? Very bad...I can't
tell you how many birds I have rushed to my vet to try and save
or put to sleep because I hate watching them suffer. But yet most
of my cats are strays who lived outside for a very long time...so
I know they caught animals just to survive!!
Sandy
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512.23 | | JUPITR::KAGNO | Kitties with an Attitude | Thu Mar 11 1993 07:51 | 9 |
| Sandy, I didn't know you were giving the cats rescue remedy. I have
some at home that I tried to use on Taja, but it is very alcoholic.
Try putting some on your tongue... it's awful!! No wonder the kitty
mellows out!
If you want mine, you are more than welcome to it.
-Roe
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512.24 | I "THINK" I found them.... | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I think, thereforeI think I am... | Thu Mar 11 1993 10:31 | 17 |
| I went to Agway in Northboro at lunch time, and they didn't carry the
whips, but they let me order some from their catalogue. I ordered two
45" sulky whips. I'm not 100% sure this is what we are looking for, as
there were no pictures, but at 9.59 a piece, I figured I was on the right
track. They will be ordered today, and I can pick them up Wednesday. No
extra charge for the special order, I just had to leave 20% down on
them.
I'll report back when they come in to let you know if I was right in my
choice. They come in tan (what I ordered) black and natural.
So, if these are the right thing, I can get two of them for like 20.14,
(including tax), where only one from T.T.E.A.M. would cost 29.95
including shipping! BIG difference, huh?
Yonee
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512.25 | singing is wonderful! | MKOTS4::MACDONALD | Toirneac Speir | Thu Mar 11 1993 11:35 | 11 |
|
Yup, Sandy, you can put it in his food and the singing is GREAT!!
Roe, I made up a dosage bottle for Sandy so it's a dilute solution.
This is what I use for giving directly to the cats. Once you add the
stronger remedy to the water dish you can barely taste it, if at all.
Try putting a couple of drops in a glass of water and see what a
difference it makew. Course now, i like it strong...you should try the
peppermint tincture I made this summer with brandy. Yikes!! ;')
MaryAnne
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512.26 | | DAGWST::BROWN | everybody run Prom Queen's Gotta Gun! | Thu Mar 11 1993 12:51 | 9 |
| So Maryanne, you make up herbal remedies yourself? I could use
something to help my two stud cats mellow out (short of neutering of
course!) during the breeding season. They generally lose a lot of
weight during this time of year because they spend all their time
pacing and calling and very little time eating. If you have some
herbal remedy that can sooth them so they won't pace so much, and/or
something that will increase their appetites, I am all ears.
Jo
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512.27 | | DELNI::MANDILE | with an e | Thu Mar 11 1993 12:56 | 7 |
| Jo -
There is an herbal paste sold for horses (one name is B-calm,
another is Calm n Cool) that reacts to naturally calm the horse
and it is taken orally. I wonder if this would work for cats?
It has a natural effect on the nervous center of the brain.
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512.28 | | DAGWST::BROWN | everybody run Prom Queen's Gotta Gun! | Thu Mar 11 1993 13:06 | 9 |
| I have tried a cat product called B-calm that is distributed by House
of Anju products. It has L-tryptophan in it. It didn't work. My next
thought was to put them on something like Pet Tinic or some similar
vitamin supplement that is high in B vitamins (supposed to stimulate
the appetite). My vet wants to put them on a low dose of valium, but I
really want to avoid that. I don't want my boys to end up being
junkies.
Jo
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512.29 | | MKOTS4::MACDONALD | Toirneac Speir | Fri Mar 12 1993 07:57 | 6 |
|
I'll check it out over the weekend and see what I can come up with.
MaryAnne
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512.30 | Sing away! | SAHQ::SINATRA | | Fri Mar 12 1993 08:13 | 21 |
| Sandy,
The sitting and singing really does work. I used to spend literally
hours as a child sitting in the barn loft taming cats and kittens by
just sitting (it makes them so curious) and singing. As they seemed to
get a little more comfortable, sometimes I would take a piece of straw
and wiggle it around and they'd start playing and forget all about me.
It's a wonderful feeling when you can finally reach out and pet them or
hold them. Warning - do not grab! I got so good at being quiet and
waiting, moving a little closer, etc. that I could sneak up on feral
toms outside and even wild baby rabbits - but did not have sense enough
to think that they were armed and dangerous! OUCH! The sitting
technique also works on horses who do not wish to be caught - sit down
and they'll soon be snuffling all over you - just be prepared to move
quickly - they're just a little bit bigger and more dangerous than
kitties.
Have patience, he'll come to trust you!
Rebecca
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512.31 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Fri Mar 12 1993 09:23 | 20 |
| Rebecca...your warning came too late because he has already
"scratched me" pretty good!! But of course I show little fear
and was pushing him to hard in the beginning!!! He taught me
a lesson quickly!!!
But...I was so happy last night. He actually ALLOWED me to place
some catnip on his blanket while he was still sitting on it!!!!!
Now that's progress!!!!! Of course I was so excited I kept putting
little piles of catnip all over the place...and then he got sick
of me and went to his shelter up in the rafters!!!
When I do get frustrated...I just keep reminding myself that it
took 2 years to get to both Van Gogh and J.C....and now they
are my most loving cats. My only problem with Happy Cat in the
cellar is...I don't have the time because I still have 4 strays
outside that need my help too!! (one being very sickly) If I
knew I only had to deal with this one...I wouldn't mind if he
stayed down there for a year!!!
Sandy
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512.32 | | SPEZKO::RAWDEN | Go ahead, make my dinner! | Fri Mar 12 1993 09:42 | 2 |
| Sandy, you've got to stop swearing at him. He probably understands
English!
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512.33 | getting down... | PROXY::HUTCHESON | the revolution will not be televised | Fri Mar 12 1993 09:48 | 8 |
| re .30
Interesting that you should emphasize sitting. To a 4-legged
creature (e.g. bears), walking on two legs can be interpreted
as an agressive posture.
seh
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512.34 | | WR1FOR::RUSSELLPE_ST | | Fri Mar 12 1993 13:33 | 5 |
| I'd like a copy of the info from the meeting, please. My mailstop is
WRO1-1/B31.
Thanks,
Steffi
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512.35 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Fri Mar 19 1993 12:48 | 6 |
| Just wanted to let you know that I just mailed out the articles
to those of you that have asked for the TTEAM documentation.
Hopefully I have not forgotten anyone...but if you don't see it
within a week please let me know and I will try again!!
Sandy
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512.36 | I think it might be working! | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I think, therefore I think I am | Fri Mar 19 1993 13:36 | 33 |
| Just wanted to update on the whips. I got them yesterday afternoon, and
headed for the shelter. Aftert he feeding and cleaning was done, I took
them (minus the snap tassels) in tot cage with our most feral cat,
Shadow.
I sang to him softly, and just stroked him with the flexible part of
the wand. He was not a happy camper at first, and moved around trying
to get away, hissing and spitting and growling like crazy. But, I just
kept on talking and singing softly, and by the time a few minutes went
by, he was just sitting there and growling a bit, and chewing on the
end of the wand if it got close enough of course.
I don't know if it's going to work. I left a note with instructions in
what to do for the other vounteers. If someone can do this every day,
we will have faster results than if I do it once a week. I'll keep
everyone posted.
Also, I did circles on a few cats last week, and one of them went out
of her cage last night, which she never does, and another one, that is
usually hiding in the corner of her cage was sticking her paw out at me
through the cage door to snag some roast beef! So, there may be some
good that will come from that workshop!
I did circles again last night also. I'll again keep everyone posted
on those kitties.
So again Sandy, thanks so much for opening the workshop up to
FELINERs. I'm really glad I went.
If you want to get wands, please contact me, and I'll point you to a
good source that will cost even less than what I paid for my first two.
Yonee
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512.37 | Questions | SAHQ::SINATRA | | Mon Mar 29 1993 10:58 | 14 |
| I received my T.T.E.A.M. article - thanks Sandy! Now I have some
questions. What are the wands y'all keep talking about - for use with
cats that won't let you close enough to touch? Do you do circles with
those? Having read the article, do you think I can apply the touches,
or is it necessary to have direct training? How would you describe the
various levels of touching - it mentions a three touch or a nine touch
for instance? Do you simply try different touches to find out which
your cat responds to the best? - some seemed more specific than others
about what they were for. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Rebecca
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512.38 | Some answers to the questions. | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I think, therefore I think I am | Mon Mar 29 1993 12:18 | 52 |
| Hi Rebecca,
I'll try to field some of your questions. The levels of touching were
described to us this way. If you take your fingers and place them on
your eylid just enough so your eyelid can feel it, that's a one. If you
press hard enough to ALMOST make it uncomfortable to your eye, that's a
three. Then you just increase pressure incrementally from there, with
10 being a very heavy pressure. I think that one would only be used
with larger animals. I tend to use between a 2 and 3 pressure onthe
cats at the shelter.
The most common touch used is the clouded leopard. I also use the
lying leopard. Sometimes that one doesn't seem quite as intrusive to my
more shy kitties.
The wands I have talked about ad nauseum, are in reality two horse
whips, with the snap tassel removed, leaving a few inches of nylon
braid at the end of the whip. The ones I bought were called sulky
whips, but the girl who did the workshop said they are dressage whips.
I just stroke the cat with the soft section, over as much of the body
as I can get to. I tried doing the circles with them, but it doesn't
work too well for me. I have just been stroking the cats for about a
five minute period each session, to get them used to being stroked at
all! Some of these cats really hate people, so this is a way to stroke
them from a distance.
The times I've done this with Shadow, my shelter's version of Sandy's
"Happy Cat', he has started off growling, spitting, hissing, and biting
the wand when he could, but by the end of the five minutes, he's
usually just sitting there with an occasional growl. He's not exactly
happy, but he lets me do it.
I think if you follow the diagrams in the material Sandy sent, you can
probably do it all right. The confusing part I thought, was when it
said start at 6 o'clock, go all the way around, and up to 8 'clock,
then back to 6 o'clock. What this means is to go a little past the
starting point, and rather than just pick your hand right up, sort of
release it back in the direction of 6 o'clock. Or just slide it back to
the point of the next circle. This will 'draw' the skin back to it's
normal postition instead of letting it 'snap' back. I hope that made
sense.
I sing to the cats when I do the circles and wands. I think it calms
the cats, and it insures that I keep breathing while I'm doing it. Some
folks would laugh about the singing part, but the good lord blessed me
with a decent voice, so I can pretty much get away with that? ;-)
I hope this helps. If you have any more questions feel free. If anyone
can answer the questions already asked better than I did, please feel
free also! It won't hurt my feelings. ;-)
Yonee
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512.39 | | MAYES::MERRITT | Kitty City | Tue Mar 30 1993 06:11 | 16 |
| Yonee...you did a wonderful job explaining that!!! Rebecca the
touches cannot hurt the cat so even if your not doing it exactly
right....you won't harm them!! The workshop starts where you
try these circles on your own arm first...and then you work doing
it on another person back...that way you can get use to the different
movements and pressures.
I find some of my cats do not like the circles...put do love
Noah's March when I start at the head and go right down
to the tip of the tail!! Some also love the python lifts too!!
I think the key is the calming affect it has on the cats...and just
the quality time you are giving them while your doing it!!
Sandy
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512.40 | Thanks much! | SAHQ::SINATRA | | Tue Mar 30 1993 07:53 | 17 |
| Thanks Yonee - that helps a lot! And Sandy, it's good to know I can't
harm them if I'm doing it wrong - it seems pretty straightforward, so
I'll start experimenting. I tried them on my husband - he liked some
better than others - but said he felt very calm while I was working on
him. I think I'll try them on Sammi next- she's very upset because we have
company. If anyone even knocks on the door she growls, so when my
husband's friend came in late last night, after checking the situation
out, she ran back into the bedroom with me and sat on the end of the
bed, growling ferociously. (I felt so protected!) So maybe the touches
will help her feel better. I'm highly in favor of anything that can
help us communicate with animals better - on any level - I often feel
that they communicate awfully well with me, but that I'm woefully
inadequate when it comes to communicating with them.
Thanks again!
Rebecca
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512.41 | There's now a set of Ttouch videotapes for $39.95 each | UHUH::TALCOTT | | Thu Apr 11 1996 13:04 | 12 |
| One each for dogs, cats & horses. $39.95 each. Anybody have any opinions on
'em? Got the above from an infomercial running on who-knows-what-channel at
some-point-late-in-the-evening. I saved the phone # for ordering but don't have
it handy at the moment. Basically they say Ttouch can help with just about
anything - excessive scratching, aggressiveness, excessive urination in dogs,
cats scratching furniture, kidney problems if I recall and a *ton* of other
behaviorial and physical problems. In fact, enough so that I became fairly
skeptical by the time the 30 min. ad was over. Seems like about they only things
they didn't claim to help were parvo and rabies, but then I didn't catch it
early enough to see the whole ad ;-)
Trace
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512.42 | TTEAM is wonderful!! | BRAT::MACDONALD_M | Pet Owners Resource Service | Thu Apr 11 1996 13:47 | 31 |
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YES!!! TTOUCH does work for most things. I've been involved with and
using TTEAM for a few years now and it is remarkable. The videos are
okay, they give you a basic how to do it but there is no comparing
to seeing it done live a t a workshop. One word of caution, if you're
going to order the video....use a credit card and be prepared to wait
for delivery. My husband ordered the canine one for me for Christmas
and I received it last month. He sent a check so this may have been
what the hold up was. It is also impossible to get through to
customer service. You might have better luck ordering directly through
the TTEAM office in New Mexico. They also put out a very imformative
newsletter.
I have used TTEAM for working on a cat who didn't like having claws
done....after a session we did a full manicure.
On a dog that was frozen with fear....a few TTOUCHES and she melted.
Another dog in a very stressfull situation....I did TTOUCHES and the
comment was how relaxed he was.
Doing earwork at the vets and when an animal is sick to its stomach is
very helpful.
TTEAM works by stimulating the cells to help the body heal both the
physical and emotional issues.
As for rabies....well there's always homeopathy ;')
MaryAnne
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512.43 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Thu Apr 11 1996 14:17 | 15 |
| I have the Cat TTOUCH tape and have also been to a TTOUCH
workshop which was held at the Pat Brody Shelter a few
years ago.
I do not have as much experience as Maryann, but I can honestly
say I did use some of the TTouches on Capone who was feral and
had got hit by a car and needed my help. I was truly amazed
that within a short period of time, I could touch Capone and
medicate him with no problems.
I will say...I'm not a TRUE believe in everything they say, but
I do know it did help me with Capone and I would definitely use
it again with another feral.
Sandy
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512.44 | Sounds hopeful... | UHUH::TALCOTT | | Thu Apr 11 1996 21:30 | 2 |
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So, ahhhhh, could I use it on my wife when she's P.O'd at me?
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512.45 | Show me! | BPSOF::EGYED | Per aspera ad astra | Fri Apr 12 1996 08:10 | 4 |
| Is there a brochure or the kind around, what this is all about? We here
behind Europe do not know the TT methods...
Nat
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512.46 | | BRAT::MACDONALD_M | Pet Owners Resource Service | Fri Apr 12 1996 08:44 | 11 |
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Trace, yes you could use it on your wife, in fact Linda (Tellington
Jones, the creator) is now doing workshops on TTEAM for people. It
really feels wonderful!
Nat, there are TTEAM clinics offered all over the world, many of them
in Europe. Look for the books by Linda Tellington Jones and videos
should be available in Europe as well. I'll try to remember to
bring in a current newsletter and post the upcoming clinics.
MaryAnne
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512.47 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Fri Apr 12 1996 09:20 | 2 |
| This is massage, basically, yes?
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512.48 | | BRAT::MACDONALD_M | Pet Owners Resource Service | Fri Apr 12 1996 09:42 | 10 |
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Not really massage but considered bodywork. The TTOUCHES range from
very light - a 1 pressure that you can practice on your eyelids- to a
much heavier pressure. Massage is actually working the muscles, in
TTEAM you are simply making circles by pushing the skin around (I'm
sure there is a more technical description of this in Linda's books)
It's based on the Feldinkrais method of bodywork. I guess maybe you
have to see it to really see the difference.
MaryAnne
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512.49 | | BRAT::MACDONALD_M | Pet Owners Resource Service | Tue Apr 16 1996 11:07 | 23 |
|
Instructors:
Austria Annegret Ast Salzburg 0662 849805
Germany Bernd Schmidt (49) 05602 70608
Companion Animal Practitioners:
Australia
Andy Robertson Chatswood, NSW 02 412 2262
Austria
Wiebke Bienlenberg DVM Wien 0222/7992272
Martina Simmerer Vienna 0222/5570983
Switzerland:
Simona Gallo Ruti-Winkel 41 18607238 ph 41 1861 1760
For more infor on TTEAM contact the office:
TT.E.A.M. Training
P.O. Box 3793
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501
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512.50 | | BRAT::MACDONALD_M | Pet Owners Resource Service | Tue Apr 16 1996 11:12 | 26 |
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Sorry, I hit the wrong key here's the complete address
TT.E.A.M Training
P.O. Box 3793
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501-3793
USA
(505) 455-2945
FAX (505) 455-7233
e-mail 102504,[email protected]
For info on the newsletter
TT.E.A.M. News International
5435 Rochdell Rd
Vernon, B.C. V1B 3E8
(604) 545-2336
FAX (604) 545-9116
e-mail [email protected]
Hope this is helpful. If anyone wants a practitioner listing for a
specific location let me know. There are also other practitioners
listed for horses....let me know if you'd like these too.
MaryAnne
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512.51 | TTEAM case histories needed | BRAT::MACDONALD_M | Pet Owners Resource Service | Mon Jun 17 1996 15:20 | 17 |
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I've just compleated the second session of the two year practitioner
training program. It was great! One of the requirements for the
Practioner I program is to complete 15 case histories using the
TTOUCHES. So if anyone is interested in learning more about the
TTOUCHES, being part of my assignment please contact me off line.
The TTOUCHES can be used for a variety of reasons; old age, behavior
problems, pre or post surgical issues, shelter cats, or just for the
benefit of our pets. It would require at least 3 visits from me to
work with you and your cat. It is nothing that is harmful and there is
no pressure on you. If at any time you feel uncomfortable we can stop.
I'm located in southern NH so that area as well as the adjoining MASS
area is pretty much my limit of travel.
MaryAnne
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