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Conference misery::feline

Title:Meower Power - Where Differing Opinions are Respected
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Moderator:JULIET::CORDES_JA
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1079
Total number of notes:28858

511.0. "Chemically Burned Skin " by GAVEL::FALLON () Thu Mar 04 1993 09:44

    Have any of you (mistakenly) given your kitties a flea bath and
    had them burned by it?  I recently took back a female that is in the
    saddest shape I have ever seen.  Her once proud standing ears flop
    over like a collie dog.  Her fur is barely existant on her underneath
    legs, and part of the tail.  The woman told me a while after the fact
    that she had given her a flea bath with a "recommended product" and
    the kitten almost died.  I was told that she lost all her fur.
    When I asked what brand (looking for a chemical) she used she 
    couldn't remember.  So now, I am curious if this poor little thing
    will be like this the rest of her life or will he fur come back 
    eventually.  I am also very concerned that her body and organs may
    have absorbed too much of the chemical and it has affected her 
    growth, also could it react like a carcinogen later in her life.
    She is very loving, too smart and sharp as a tack! It didn't affect
    her personality at all.  It has been several months btw.
    Any ideas?
    Karen
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511.1NETWKS::GASKELLThu Mar 04 1993 10:399
    My dear little Miss Moffet was born in the board shop at the Maynard
    Mill.  She was accidently splashed with some chemical (wish I could
    remember what).  In some places her hair grew out white, in other
    larger areas it didn't.  (Come to think of it, I think it was acid.)
    
    Try giving your cat a little tomato past in its food, just a pea size
    piece.  It's suppose to improve the condition of the fur.   
    
    Best of luck. 
511.2GAVEL::FALLONThu Mar 04 1993 11:232
    Thanks!  I will try that.  She has a very healthy appetite.
    Karen
511.3Am I Being Too Suspicious?DRUMS::FEHSKENSlen, EMA, LKG1-2/W10Thu Mar 04 1993 13:037
    I'd be suspicious of an inability to remember a brand name.  I can't
    remember the euphemism you used ("recognized treatment"?), but that
    in conjunction with the brand name amnesia sounds like a "home rememdy"
    gone awry.
    
    len.
    
511.4one of my cats was allergic to flea compoundCADSYS::HECTOR::RICHARDSONFri Mar 05 1993 09:0716
    Years ago when JFCL was a young kitty instead of a dignified old lady
    kitty, I used to put flea collars on her because I used to let her (and
    Nebula) outside if I was working in the garden.  She turned out to be
    allergic to one of the flea collars I tried, and all her fur fell out
    on her neck.  Poor kitty!  Of course, I got rid of both kitties' flea
    collars, and gave JFCL a bath (never one of her favorite acitities
    anyhow) with mild baby shampoo, to get rid of all of the oofending
    chemical.  It tooks months and months for the fur to grow in right
    again, though it eventually did.  I never put another collar on either
    kitty after that - and, sorry, I don't recall what brand of collar she
    was allergic to: it was some years ago now.  Nebula didn't have any
    problems with the same collar, but I got rid of hers too since the cats
    wash each other and I didn't want JFCl to pick up any more of whatever
    chemical it was since her system obviously couldn't handle it.
    
    /Charlotte
511.5GAVEL::FALLONFri Mar 05 1993 09:1812
    Thanks Charlotte!  How many months was it about?  From what I can
    gather, it was around August that she bathed Evvey.  So it is now
    around seven months.  Her fur has started to grow back but it is much
    shorter at this point.  You can actually see a "demarcation" line
    around her whole body.  She also scratches and makes balder spots. 
    There is an occasional long tuft that sticks out from the shorter areas
    adding to her unsightly appearance.  I am afraid that if I ever get
    fleas ( I suppose it is inevitable but it hasn't happened yet!) what
    can I bathe her with.  I am sure if that same chemical hits her again
    her sensitivity will be so amplified that it will kill her for sure this
    time.
    Karen
511.6my suggestionSTAR::CRICKETTFri Mar 05 1993 15:4613
    Karen,
    
       I would suggest that you bath her with a mild baby shampoo ( this
    will atleast wash way any eggs and some fleas away.)  Also incorporate
    brewers yeast flakes into her wet food. (brewers yeast flake can be
    purchased at a health food store)  The brewers yeast from what I
    understand will repel the fleas.
       
    
     Linda and Gloria
    
      
    
511.7Chemical treatments aren't the only wayNETWKS::GASKELLMon Mar 08 1993 05:3615
    Please don't forget the low tech. methods.  I only use fine tooth
    metal flea comb.   It's takes about 10 to 20 mins a cat but I like 
    to think of it as quality time when I can show my cat some attention 
    and take out the dead hair before it becomes a fur ball.  
    (Many years ago, one of my cats had to have a fur ball removed 
    surgically as it was blocking up her inside.)  
    
    I am not anti flea baths, but I don't fancy my chances of bathing any
    of my cats without major injury, mine.
    
                                          
    Gross-out alert:
    
    My sister uses her fingers and squashes the fleas between her thumb
    nails.  It sounds gross, and is, but it works.  
511.8But What to Do with Those Little Carcasses?DRUMS::FEHSKENSlen, EMA, LKG1-2/W10Mon Mar 08 1993 07:1617
    re .4 - Is JFCL an acronym for something?  Or is it the DECsystem-10
    	    assembly language instruction I remember from the good old
            days?  If so, why would anyone name a cat that?  BTW, I (we)
    	    always used to pronounce JFCL "juh-fickle".  And for you non-
    	    DECsystem-10 programmers out there, JFCL stands for "Jump on
    	    Flag and CLear.
    
    re .7 - OK, I admit I have used the same technique to get rid of
    	    fleas (catching them one at a time and crushing them - they're
    	    hardy little buggers and you have to make sure you hear them
    	    crack, which makes it even grosser).  But if there's more than
    	    a few, it's impractical, and it doesn't deal with the eggs and
    	    other fleas not currently hitching a ride on the cat, so it has
    	    limited effectiveness.
    
    len.
    
511.9MAYES::MERRITTKitty CityMon Mar 08 1993 07:337
    I normally use a flea comb and have a bowl of soapy water close
    by.  When I catch them....I just dunk them in the water and watch
    them drown!!!!!!  The soap makes them slimey so they can't jump
    out!!
    
    Sandy
    
511.10sink em' in oil!!! ;^}GAVEL::FALLONMon Mar 08 1993 08:2412
    Years ago when I had a dog and lived with several ;'), we used to keep 
    a can of oil handy to put ticks into.  I suppose that would work
    equally well with the fleas.  Vacuuming is still one of the most
    important aspects of delousing your house.  I suspect that the woman
    who had the fleas and gave the bath to Evvie wasn't able to clean as
    regularly as we would hope for.  She also had a dog that she suspecte
    of having brought the little "buggers" home from the grooming shop. 
    Yes, to make this whole thing sound even worse.... she was the one
    working at the groomers shop!  She should have known about the
    chemicals she was using and at the very least, remember what she had
    used on the poor cat.
    Karen
511.11SPEZKO::RAWDENGo ahead, make my dinner!Mon Mar 08 1993 08:264
    Oil, as in 10w40 or vegetable?????!!!!
    
    A simple glass jar (baby food size) and rubbing alcohol is all you
    need.  Quickly puts them fleas (and ticks) to rest!  
511.12regrowing fur - slowlyCADSYS::HECTOR::RICHARDSONMon Mar 08 1993 09:3112
    JFCL was the fastest no-op on a PDP-10, back when I first got her.  Her
    half-Siamese companion would have been POPJ, but I got over-ruled, and
    she became Coal-Sack Nebula (a dark cloud in the Milky Way, suitible
    for a black kitty who thinks she's a star!).  How did you name your
    cats?
    
    It was several months before JFCL's neck fur grew properly, but I don't
    recall how many - this happened years ago, when she was a much younger
    kitty.  The affected area was only a couple of inches wide at the most,
    anyway.  She has medium-length, silky fur.
    
    /Charlotte
511.13Hartz Flea&Tick ProductsLJSRV2::BLUNDELLWed Oct 13 1993 11:3816
    
    This is an old topic but I'll add this bit of info as it surprised 
    me.  I was at Animal Emergency Care in Acton about two weeks ago 
    and the Vet took a phone call while I was standing there.  All I 
    heard here say was "You need to get all of it off.  Rinse the cat
    thoroughly in clear plain water entirely until every bit of it is 
    off of him.  do it right now immediately and if anything seems wrong, 
    bring her in immediately"  I thought I'd ask what toxic mess this 
    poor kitty had gotten itself into for my mental rolodex of kitty
    tips and the vet said "Hartz Flea/Tick products" -- I should have asked
    for a bit of clarification but didn't so I don't want to alarm anyone
    unnecessarily but I'd be interested to know if anyone else could
    elaborate on this for me.  She specifically said Hartz but I find 
    that odd as I thought that was a relatively respectable name.