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Conference misery::feline

Title:Meower Power - Where Differing Opinions are Respected
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Moderator:JULIET::CORDES_JA
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1079
Total number of notes:28858

119.0. "Help, cat problems..." by CSLALL::WOO_ADMIN () Mon Jan 06 1992 10:53

    From reading this notesfile, I see that there are alot of informative
    people out there and hopefully, a lot of you can give me some
    suggestions on my cat, Cleo.
    
    Here's the problem. Cleo tends to urinate on the rug wherever she is in
    the mood. This morning she did it right in front of me, right next to
    her cat box! She has done this on several occasions in different spots
    of the house. Let me point out that I took in 2 siamese cat's
    temporarily afew months ago and they both had urinated on the rug and
    again in different spots. So, I bought (2) different kinds of sprays.
    One is too take the smell out completely and the other is supposed to
    keep the cats away. Well, it looks like it isn't working. 
    
    I also thought that perhaps Cleo is just a real clean cat and wants her
    box cleaned constantly. I clean the box once a day and that's at night.
    
    I got Cleo as a kitten and she is now approx 8 mths old. I really need
    some suggestions here because I do not want to put up with this
    behavior. 
    
    I live in a townhouse that I rent and I really can not afford to have
    any cat urinating on the rugs for I do not own the place and anyways,
    I'm sure that it'll begin to smell sooner or later.
    
    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
    
    
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119.1She's trying to tell you something!MPO::ROBINSONstarry eyes sparkling ablazeMon Jan 06 1992 11:3118
    
    	Many times when a cat does this it is because it has a 
    	urinary tract infection. You should have your cat looked
    	at by your vet. Sometimes this is triggered by stress, 
    	which would have been caused by the visiting siamese's.
    	Their presence alone would upset your cat, but if the smell
    	of their urine in the rugs lingers, this can also cause 
    	stress to your cat. Cats are very territorial, so the smell
    	is another cat's urine can be percieved as a threat the her
    	territory. Also, if your cat is not spayed, this could 
    	contribute to a territorial problem. 
    
    	So, first of all, have the vet rule out or provide treatment
    	for a UTI. Many cats pee in front of their owner because it
    	is the ONLY way they have to tell you they're in pain!! 
    
    	Sherry
    
119.2The vets this week.CSLALL::WOO_ADMINMon Jan 06 1992 11:586
    I just called my vet and Cleo will be going in this week for a check
    up. I guess this is the best way. I can then rule out an infection or
    that its a behavior problem.
    
    Thanks again
    
119.3see topic 27MUTTON::BROWNMon Jan 06 1992 12:0212
    We have some very good information already in this file about the
    problem you are having with Cleo - indiscriminate urination.  To find
    it, you would do the following:
    
    At the notes prompt type "show keywords".  This will bring up a list of
    keywords, find one that is similar to what you are looking for
    (litterbox_problems).  Then, at the notes prompt type "show key/full
    litterbox_problems.  This will bring up a list of topic numbers that
    have been assigned that keyword.  One of those is topic 27, Eliminative
    Behavior Problems.
    
    Jo
119.4scrub, scrub, scrub..!SOLVIT::IVESMon Jan 06 1992 12:5013
    I didn't notice in your note that the area's where the cats peed
    were scrubbed with one of the enzime (sp) cleaners. Your first 
    have to get rid of the urine itself then the smell and then you
    can use the spray to keep them away from that spot.
    
    Natures Miracle or Urine Out are to name just two. Don't skimp
    on this part of the project as it is next to their being given
    a clean bill of health by the vet.
    
    If this is something that Cleo has just started recently is
    sounds like it was brought on by something.
    
    Barbara
119.5Cleo, what a good girl this morning.CSLALL::WOO_ADMINTue Jan 07 1992 05:0811
    This morning Cleo sniffed out the spot where she had urinated yesterday
    and then looked at her box. I did spray that area again last night.
    Well, she decided to go in her box. 
    
    Cleo has an appointment Wednesday at the Vets. I really think its
    because of the other siamease urinating on the rugs. I never really
    caught them doing it but their litterbox seemed to be dry so they could
    have went all over the house.
    
    Well, we'll see what the vet has to say tommorrow.
    
119.6You guys were right...15838::WOO_ADMINTue Jan 14 1992 05:5112
    Well, as it turns out, Cleo did have a urinary infection and it is
    being treated. However, I still feel that she may have a behavioral
    problem. Just this past weekend, I had to go away for (1) night.
    When I returned the following day, she urinated again except this time
    I believe she was spraying because the wall was wet. I have a cage at
    home and I was thinking that everytime she goes on the floor, I would
    say no and stick her in her cage for awhile. Any comments on this
    condition?
    
    Mary
    
    
119.7Persian Peeing because she's Mad!NQOPS::BUSHSun Oct 18 1992 13:1410
    I have a 3 year old persian, that is absolutely wonderful,
    EXCEPT, ever since I got another kitten, she now pees on
    the rug.  I take it, it is because she's pissed off I got
    her a playmate.  I can't stand this, and have been trying
    everything to keep this rug clean, and discouraging her.
    
    She keeps doing it.  Anyone know what I can do to stop her?
    
    Thanks...
    Jane
119.8PROXY::HUTCHESONthe revolution will not be televisedMon Oct 19 1992 07:5323
A few years ago a friend of mine had a similar problem with one of his
cats (one of the hairy ones - may have been a Persian) when he took in
a stray. This friend (the 'Cat Man') called in an animal psychologist
to diagnose the problem. She said that it had to do with the new animal
invading the older cat's turf (oretty obvious, actually). The recommend-
ations, which worked, were as follows:

      1) Use a special cat litter (don't know the name) that is very
          expensive and very much like fine sand. Cats love the feel
         of sand between their toes (I'm no making this up) and using
         this litter was intended to make using the litter box irresist-
         able to the older cat. He only had to use it until it appeared
         the cat had return to her litter box for good.

      2) Reserve some area around the house for the exclusive use of the
         older cat (exclusive turf). The Cat Man caged off an area in his
         yard.


Good Luck.


                                           Susan
119.9OXNARD::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Mon Oct 19 1992 10:574
    Use Nature's Miracle of some similar enzyme cleaner to neutralize the
    smell of urine in the rug or she'll keep rezapping the places she's
    gone.  (Even if you can't smell it, she'll be able to.)
    
119.9Recovered replyJULIET::CORDES_JAFour Tigers on My CouchMon Oct 19 1992 11:1010
119.10it really is wonderful stuff!BSS::VANFLEETThe time is now!Mon Oct 19 1992 11:537
    Does anybody have any pointers to places in Colorado that sell Nature's
    Miracle?  I inherited a jug of it from the former occupants of the last
    house I rented but I haven't seen it anywhere else.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Nanci
119.11OXNARD::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Mon Oct 19 1992 12:293
    Try a pet store?  If they don't have it, they might have something
    similar.  Or, I think there's a phone number on the bottle to call.
    
119.12Pet food stores.NQOPS::BUSHMon Oct 19 1992 14:326
    I have found it in Pet food stores.   It's about $8.99 a bottle
    out here in NH.  It works really good!  I wish it would stop my
    cat from peeing though.  I think I will try giving her her own
    room now.  
    
    
119.13AYRPLN::TAYLORD.I.L.L.I.G.A.F.Mon Oct 19 1992 14:428
    If you cannot find Nature's Miracle, there is another product that I
    feel works just as well.  It's called OUTRIGHT.  You may be able to
    find that.
    
    Good luck!
    
    holly
    
119.14AYRPLN::TAYLORD.I.L.L.I.G.A.F.Mon Oct 19 1992 14:4514
    RE: .12
    
    I know what you mean.  I've unfortunately had to resort to that with
    two of my Korats.  I hate to keep them in there, but they just can't be
    trusted to use the litterbox.  They use it in there and haven't peed on
    anything (there's a stand-alone closet in there, a desk, and some beds
    for them) but whenever I let them out of there, they will pee on any
    furniture they find.
    
    They do however get all of the love and attention that they need!
    (before I get flamed by anyone).
    
    Holly