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62.1 | Another Vet Visit | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Fri Dec 06 1991 12:18 | 30 |
| Well I'm not real sure when the last update was...but
on a good note Van Gogh has come back regularly and
since it has snowed...he has not left the cellar. He
walks on the porch...sniffs...looks around...and walks
back to the warmth of my cellar.
IF you remember...he was not using the litterbox. Well...
as of last night both my husband and I went down for one of
our nightly visits only to find Van Gogh constantly going to
the litterbox and squatting. He even stopped eating which
I knew something was immediatly wrong. Thank god for this notesfile...
because all I could remember was "GET HIM TO THE VETS ASAP"
Well Van Gogh has been at the vets all day with a catheter in
him...so far they have determined that he has a Bladder infection
(FUS)....and I will be calling the vet back later today to
find out if anything else is wrong. The vet truly believe he
will be spending the night. (sniff sniff)
I feel so bad for this big guy. Can you imagine going from
total freedom, to a cellar, to a cage with a thing stuck in
you!! I sure hope he doesn't lose his trust in me...I worked
to hard to gain it.
God...the name fits more then I ever would have imagined.
Kitty prayers for Van Gogh...
Sandy
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62.2 | | TENAYA::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Fri Dec 06 1991 12:40 | 4 |
| Sandy, I'm sure Van Gogh will be fine and knows he's being helped.
There's no void like a house with a cat away, though. Crossed
fingers and paws for you both.
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62.3 | Diet Controlled FUS | MIVC::MTAG | | Fri Dec 06 1991 12:46 | 23 |
| Sandy -
Do let us know about Van Gogh. He sounds like a stray I befriended a
couple of winters ago, but "Kitty" stopped showing up this Spring. I
think he was terribly afraid of my daughter and didn't want to come
back. I still look for him.
Anyway, one of my cats, Barney, has had numerous bouts with FUS and I
control it by diet. I give him 9-Lives or Whiskas canned cat food and
Fromm dry food. I did check with my vet on this and got the OK on the
diet. Fromm is cheaper than SD or Iams and the mineral levels are about the
same (or better). I get it at my local pet store. In case we have a
return of FUS, I keep a supply of medication on hand and check with the
vet. Usually, because I start the medication right away, I don't have
to deal with a visit to the vet. (The FUS will return upon a change of
diet - doesn't matter if it's canned or dry food).
One last note - I have not checked with my vet, but because my pet
store has been out of the Fromm cat food, I tried that new dry food at
the grocery store especially made for cats with urinary problems. It
seems to work ok.
Mary
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62.4 | | TENAYA::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Fri Dec 06 1991 12:52 | 3 |
| One thing to avoid is Pounce treats. They bring on FUS in my cats
within a day or two, without fail, amazingly enough.
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62.5 | Poor baby. | XCUSME::KENDRICK | | Fri Dec 06 1991 12:57 | 19 |
| Sandy - I'm confused. Does Van Gogh have a bladder infection as a
result of having FUS or is he suffering from FUS alone. I'm asking
because my Hoover has had three bouts with FUS but has never had an
infection.
FUS is not fun and I certainly sympathize with you. Hoover is so
sensitive that I have to feed him SD for 2 weeks, CD for 1, etc. and I
had to switch him over to bottled distilled water. I always have a
supply of Prednisone on hand. He's more than worth the effort, though.
Good luck with Van Gogh - I'm sure he'll be fine. Also, you might want
to ask your vet to show you how to examine him to determine if he's
blocked or not. If he turns out to be extremely prone to flare-ups
it's good to know how to do that.
Regards,
Terry + 4
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62.6 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Fri Dec 06 1991 12:58 | 10 |
| My my...I fed in a few Pounce a couple of days ago. I also
heard that stress can cause this to act up too....which I'm
sure the change in environment has him totally stressed out!
My poor baby...I just want him home...and will be very very
careful with his diet in the future!! God..can I get FUS
from being stressed out...because this guy has got my nerves
on end and my stomach in a knot!
Sandy
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62.7 | | SANDY::FRASER | Err on a G String | Fri Dec 06 1991 13:02 | 10 |
|
One of the Animail Catalogs I received had an ad for a special
kind of cat litter, designed for FUS-susceptible cats. It will
apparently change color if there's a change in the urine output.
It's a bit pricy, as I recall, but you can use it by mixing it
up with your regular litter as well. Sorry that I don't have
the specifics here with me, but I'm sure you could get the info
through a call to Animail (anyone got the number?).
Sandy
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62.8 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Fri Dec 06 1991 13:04 | 14 |
| I only talked to the vet for about a minute for an update..
(I couldn't wait until after work)...but I plan on getting a heck
of a lot more details when I get to speak to him in person.
But..his words to me was he had a bladder infection and he was
beginning to have a blockage! I promise to post more details
as soon as I know the exacts. He is also being monitored
because he has diahrea and also was throwing up...and at the
time I called...the vet didn't want to say if this was related
or not.
Sandy
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62.9 | FUS and diet info | MUTTON::BROWN | | Fri Dec 06 1991 14:35 | 17 |
| re: .5
FUS is a classification for a wide range of problems associated with
the lower urinary tract. These problems can included bladder
infections, crystal formations, cystitis, blockage, etc. So, if your
cat had a bladder infection, it could also be said that he had FUS.
For more information on FUS, see note 29.3.
Also, Hill's C/D contains a urine acidifier, which is why it is sold by
prescription (through vet offices) only. There are other foods which
are low in ash and magnesium, but most don't have a urine acidifier in
them. Pro Plan has a new prescription line out that includes a version
of C/D. I believe that it has the urine acidifier in it too. My vet
says that she has been prescribing it to those cats that have a weight
problem since it is lower in calories than C/D.
Jo
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62.10 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Mon Dec 09 1991 12:20 | 38 |
| Well we did get to take Van Gogh home over the weekend...but
as of this morning he is back at the vets. We couldn't pick
him up until 4:00 on Saturday because his stool had gone from
being like cement to a very loose stool. The vet said this was
due to the blockage which backed up his whole intestinal track
and there was poison in his system.
He came home with the following diet and meds with a warning from
my vet that he probably wouldn't eat for two days.
o Strict diet of boiled chicken and rice only (1 Tsp every few hours)
o Water or evaporated milk mixed with half water
o Pet Tinic (once every two hours if he was not eating)
o Clavamox - twice a day
o Uritrin - once a day.
Well we were very happy to see Van Gogh eat his special diet and
continue to drink...I was all smiles. But on Saturday night he had
thrown up and we called the vet (thank god he gave me his home phone
number) who thought we might be feeding him too much. That's when
he suggested the 1Tsp every few hours.
On Sunday V.G. did great...he was eating his little portions and
holding them down and he was still urinating on his own. He was
a happy purring cat all day. But when we woke up this morning we noticed
that he had thrown up (alot) so we decided it was best to go
back to the vets because we wouldn't be around for 10 hours.
At this point he had stopped eating again....and we did not
notice any pee!
I just talked to the vets...and VG is again blocked and has
the cathater in him! On top of this...he is constipated and
trying to pass a very big stool. They are trying laxatives...
but he might need an enema. My poor baby is going through hell..
Please keep your fingers crossed that he'll be okay.
Sandy
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62.11 | FUS | WMOIS::RIVETTS_P | | Mon Dec 09 1991 12:25 | 19 |
| My cat has just been diagnosed with this also. She started peeing
everywhere, but nothing was coming out but a trickle. I called the Vet
and he put her on Amoxi. After 2 1/2 days she stopped thinking she had
to pee on everything and went back to normal. After 9 days she was
doing it again. Back to the vet who said she had FUS and that she
would have to have C/D for 3 weeks. (she also had blood in her urine)
At the end of 3 weeks, I should bring in a urine sample. After 5 days,
on the C/D, she stopped peeing everywhere and has been normal.
What I don't really understand is I have feed her Old Mother
Hubbard and Fromm since she was 4 months old. I thought these were low
in ash and magnesium. (also Iams) I'm afraid to take her off the C/D
although the vet said I can put her on the Hills food that you can find
in the feed and grain stores. (a little cheaper)
Does the other Hills stuff have the acidifier in it too. It hasn't
been 3 weeks yet, so I haven't been back to the Vet with her urine
sample.
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62.12 | | LATARE::GASKELL | | Mon Dec 09 1991 12:26 | 4 |
| I hope there is someone like you in my dear, lost Robbie's future. I
live in hopes that he connects with someone loving and caring.
My hat off to you!
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62.13 | | JUPITR::KAGNO | Kitties with an Attitude | Mon Dec 09 1991 12:35 | 7 |
| Sandy, I am really sorry to hear this. After our conversation this
morning, I thought things were looking up.
Hang in there and keep me posted!
-Roberta
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62.14 | | TENAYA::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Mon Dec 09 1991 12:38 | 13 |
| Gosh, Sandy, poor Van Gogh. I hope the vet soon gets things
stabilized. Please let us know what's going on.
Has Van Gogh perhaps been hit by a car in the past? That's what had
happened to my Sweetie before I got him, and caused a narrowing of the
pelvis that resulted in a combination of oversolid blockages and
diarrhea (sp?). The vet only noticed it when we noticed that Sweetie
looked slightly too small in the pelvis. Before then the emergency vet
had had him on meds to treat both teh constipation and diarreha,
depending on which day it was, which just succeeded in making the cat
more miserable. The good news is that pelvis damage is surgically
correctable.
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62.15 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Mon Dec 09 1991 12:48 | 21 |
| I have no idea what Van Gogh's life was prior to a year ago
when I started feeding him...and even then I only saw him for
maybe 1/2 hour a day...so who knows what could have happened to
him. I just feel so bad...because he was a relatively healthy
cat...before he started staying with us! I did ask the vet
why he thought this happened...and he said it could be stress
related (X-feral in the house) and also the change of diet. I
guess mice and garbage is very very low in Ash/Magnisium compared
to Science Diet.
I never knew a person/cat could be both constipated and also have
diahrea! He definitely had diahrea this AM at home...but yet
his belly felt pretty hard. I don't understand this!
All I want is to have him healthy...and I will follow the vets
orders and feed him whatever will keep him healthy. I do not
want to go through this again....ever!!
Hopefully I'll have better news tomorrow.
Sandy
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62.16 | | TENAYA::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Mon Dec 09 1991 13:04 | 10 |
| I was confused about the constipation and simultaneous diahrea
also, with Sweetie. i guess things just get totally out of whack.
The emergency vet made things worse by first prescribing something to
cure the diarrlea, when Sweetie was having diarrhea because there was a
blockage.
It took an xray to determine what was wrong.
Here's hoping Van Gogh's problems are just due to the diet change.
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62.17 | | MUTTON::BROWN | | Mon Dec 09 1991 13:17 | 11 |
| Re .11:
The Hill's Science Diet does not have a urinary acidifier in it. The
only Hill's product that does is the C/D and that is why it is sold
through the vet's.
Lots of things can contribute to FUS, not just diet. So, even though
you were feeding a good diet to your cat, something else probably
caused a bout of FUS.
Jo
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62.18 | | COASTL::NDC | Putiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313 | Tue Dec 10 1991 05:08 | 13 |
| Old Mother Hubbard does produce an acidic urine even tho it does
not contain a urine acidifier. I know this for a fact since Bob
had one of several urinalysis's (what's the plural of urinalysis?)
done while eating it. In fact, the vet told me that if I noticed
him not using the box at this point it might be because his urine
was so acidic it was irritating him and I should add baking soda
to his food!
The good news is that OMH has just come out with dry. I bought
two 3.5 lb bags at the last show and my gang likes it very much.
Not quite as much as Max cat but close.
Nancy
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62.19 | update on VG | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Tue Dec 10 1991 06:12 | 23 |
| After the vet told me that Van Gogh was blocked again...I was
in shock. I cried all the way home...and was a bundle of nerves.
I couldn't go the whole night without talking to the vet again...
so I called him back...he said Van Gogh was resting very comfortably
with his catheter and they were giving him laxatives which seems
to be working...so they doubted he would have to give him an enema.
I asked if VG was tranquilized or had one of those collars on so
he wouldn't bite at the catheter...but he said no.. VG was being
a very good boy. (even purred once in awhile). He said VG made
a 50% improvement since he was brought in at 8:00 A.M.
I also asked how could he be constipated and have diahrea at
the same time...and his comment was that the mass of hard stool
was blocking most of the passage way...but where VG was drinking
alot of the evaporate milk...the loose stool was passing but
was not breaking down the hard stool.
I'll be calling in early afternoon...so I'll provide another
update. Please keep all fingers/paws crossed for the big guy!!
I truly fear other problems are heading our way....and the blockage
is only a symptom of something else.
Sandy
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62.20 | Thoughts for VG | MODEL::CROSS | | Tue Dec 10 1991 06:22 | 8 |
|
Oh Sandy,
Van Gogh has become very special to all of us who have been reading up
on him daily through this file....we all will be pulling for him, I'm
sure.
Nancy (and the troups)
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62.21 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Tue Dec 10 1991 06:23 | 24 |
| I would like to share some suggestions that we did while
monitoring Van Gogh over the weekend. Both my vet and I
decided that VG needed to be monitored on a regular basis
and since the office was closed on Sunday...we thought it
best he come home with us.
o Confined the cat to one room...without any other cats.
o We continued to monitor about every hour. We would check
the litterbox for urine, stool, or just paw prints which
would have told us if he was trying to go.
o I kept an hourly log that showed: (the vet loved this...we
called it Van Gogh Diary.)
. what he ate/drank (1 tsb food, 1CC liquid)
. when he urinted or passed stool
. what medicine/vitamins were given
. what he looked liked and acted like
(did he purr, was he weak, did he great us)
This information helped the vet...but also made me more comfortable
that the vet could review and ensure I was doing the right things.
Sandy
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62.22 | | PROSE::GOGOLIN | | Tue Dec 10 1991 06:52 | 12 |
| Poor Van Gogh! Poor you, Sandy! I hope he will be ok, and soon! We will
be rooting for him.
The log is a great idea, I think. When one of my cats developed diabetes
some years ago, the vet told me to keep a record of amount of food, time
of insulin shots, urine readings, etc. so that I would know (and could
tell him) how Junie was doing. Since then, when any of my cats is sick
I note how much they eat, how they act, if there is diarrhea, and any
other relevant details. It's really useful information to give the vet
and can help reveal a pattern.
Linda
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62.23 | | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | | Tue Dec 10 1991 11:19 | 8 |
| Sandy:
Keeping all fingers and paws crossed for you and your guy. Please
keep us all posted.
Gentle hugs,
Giudi + Pippin, Gino & StITch
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62.24 | | COASTL::NDC | Putiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313 | Wed Dec 11 1991 05:31 | 9 |
| See Sandy! They KNOW when you're trying to help them. Jesse, Bob,
Jasmine, Christie Kay and Dusty were all like that. So was Lucky -
the 6 million dollar kitten.
The love comes through. ANd you must have a great vet there.
Hang in there.
Nancy DC
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62.25 | the poor boy.... | MCIS2::HUSSIAN | Christmas is only 2 weeks away!! | Wed Dec 11 1991 11:06 | 5 |
| Sandy,
Are you in today?! How's Van Gogh doing?
Bonnie
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62.26 | | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | | Wed Dec 11 1991 11:17 | 7 |
| Sandy:
Anxious to hear about VG. Please let us know.
Hugs,
Giudi
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62.27 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Wed Dec 11 1991 12:46 | 35 |
| Well...I'm a bit nervous writing anything...because as of this
morning Van Gogh was doing GREAT! My fear is getting my hopes
up high...only to be splattered to the ground again. I can't take
to much more of that.....I now have Diahrea!! (My vet prescibed
Pepto Bismol...for me)
But...I did pick him up from the vets last night and he looked and
acted great. He ran up to me, put his paws on my shoulder and gave
me the biggest hug ever! The vet laughed and said "gee are you sure
this was the X-Feral" the little pooper ended up pulling out the
catheter himself! I had never seen an animal catheter...I visioned a
needle hooked up to a tube which drained in a bag!! Wrong...it is
just this long skinny tube!!
He is still on the same strict diet..and still needs to take all
his medicine...but on top of that he also is taking Mythigel (sp??)
which looks like hairball stuff...but also has the stuff to control
the acid in his urine.
As of this morning...he was eating (wanted more),drinking, urinating,
and also passed stool. I have to call the vet back when I get home
and report on his progress...the vet says we will take a day at
a time and change his diet/medicine accordingly.
All I know was he was up all night....banging at the door to go
out! He kept waking me up...but I just smiled and said "welcome home
big guy". He hasn't been interested in going out for one week...so
I feel he must be feeling better. He was kind of a pain in the
butt...but it was a good pain!!!
Hopefully when I get home...he will still be urinating on his own!!
Have you ever seen two adults actually flip out with joy...because
their cat peed!!
Sandy
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62.28 | Good news! | MODEL::CROSS | | Wed Dec 11 1991 12:48 | 3 |
| YAHOOO!!!!! Things are looking up!
Nancy
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62.29 | | TENAYA::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Wed Dec 11 1991 12:52 | 2 |
| Wya to go!
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62.30 | | SENIOR::DDOUGLAS | | Wed Dec 11 1991 14:13 | 13 |
|
Sandy,
I'm so happy for you and Van Gogh, i'm so glad he's doing
much better and even though he wants to go out, i'm sure he feels
much better and it's due to having a mom who loves him so much and
cares so much for him....
His big hug was his way of saying, Thanks mom for caring....and boy am
I glad to see you.....
Diana, Tykey & Domino
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62.31 | Great News | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | | Wed Dec 11 1991 14:28 | 6 |
| Sandy:
I'm so happy to hear the news. Lots of hugs and kisses from me and
my three.
Giudi
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62.32 | Atta Boy, Van Gogh! | SELECT::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Thu Dec 12 1991 05:37 | 11 |
| Hi Sandy,
I'm so happy to hear how Van Gogh is doing too. He'll come
through this fine, I know he will!
And yes, I *have* seen two adults overjoyed when their cat peed.
My hubby and me. A few times when Loki had FUS. And now when Loki
pees in the morning for me so I can test his urine sugar (yep, he's on
insulin again :-( ). 8*)
- Andrea
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62.33 | Is he still improving? | MCIS2::HUSSIAN | Christmas is only 2 weeks away!! | Thu Dec 12 1991 05:42 | 4 |
| Oh, that's wonderful Sandy!! I hope you have more of the same news to
report this morning! Van Gogh sure is a lucky guy!!
Bonnie
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62.34 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Thu Dec 12 1991 05:52 | 37 |
| Still good....I spoke to the vet again last night and he advised
to double his amount of food intake. The big guy is starving
constantly. So as of this morning again...he has ate,drank
urinated and passed stool.
But...did I get the scare of my life last night. I did not know
my heart could beat that fast...and then just stop. First I
want to share that Van Gogh is confined to my spare bedroom. Since
I wasn't home all day yesterday I had asked both by niece and my
nephew (21 and 18 years old) who live upstairs to check on Van Gogh
and give him a tsb of food around 1:00.
Well I stood in the kitchen when I got home...truly expecting to see
this big black paw sticking out from under the doorway. Van Gogh
constantly does this...and picks at the wood. No paw..my heart
starting beating fast and I was afraid to open the door. I finally
got the courage and opened the door...now hoping to see Van Gogh
comfortabley snuggled in his bed...No Van Gogh! As my heart began
racing and I was in total panic...I started looking all over the
room...I held my breath and peered under the bed...ran to the closet...
No Van Gogh. I said "oh my god...the window"...it was shut tight!
I gasped and walked to the kitchen...and here is Van Gogh running
to me from down cellar...yelping "Meow Meow Meow" with 5 other cats
close behind just staring.
That was not how I was planning the introductions....but everyone
did seem pretty content...a few hisses here and there but that
was about it! I did find out that my little 7lb Abby truly
loves the big guy and gives him kisses. Of course why he was
out...he did munch on a some SD hard food...which he was not
suppose to have.
Hopefully the news will continue to be good...and we won't have
anymore scares...my nerves are shot!!
Sandy
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62.35 | | MCIS2::HUSSIAN | Christmas is only 2 weeks away!! | Thu Dec 12 1991 06:36 | 1 |
| :*)
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62.36 | | XCUSME::KENDRICK | | Thu Dec 12 1991 08:22 | 8 |
| Yes, Sandy, I too am an adult who jumps for joy when her cat pees -
specifically when it's Hoover. I never thought the day would come when
that pssssstt sound became music to my ears.
I'm very happy for you and Van Gogh.
T
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62.37 | | CIVIC::FAHEL | Amalthea Celebras/Silver Unicorn | Thu Dec 12 1991 09:25 | 9 |
| When our Tiki II (finally) came home from having kidney stones removed,
not only were there 2 adults jumping for joy at each pee, but our other
cat, Rico, would ANNOUNCE the event...calling us to the box each time
Tiki went to it, following, and checking the box after Tiki "went". It
was a regular parade, and poor Tiki was rather embarassed.
Go-go, Van Gogh!!! :^)
K.C.
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62.38 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Thu Dec 12 1991 09:42 | 14 |
| I'm so happy knowing there are other crazy animal lovers out
there that are thrilled at the sound of PSSSSSSS! That's great
the Rico was in on it too!!!
I do have a question...I'm having a real hard time giving Van gogh
the Mithigel which is a gel similar to hairball stuff. Of course
the box says all cats will love the taste...but not Van Gogh. I
put the stuff on my finger, pry his mouth open, push it in, and by
the time I try to get my hand out of the way...the big guy rolls
his tongue and spits it out on my hand. He's quick!!!!
Any suggestions!!
Sandy
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62.39 | you prob already tried.... | MCIS2::HUSSIAN | Christmas is only 2 weeks away!! | Thu Dec 12 1991 09:59 | 3 |
| Can you put in his favorite flavored food?
Bon
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62.40 | | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | | Thu Dec 12 1991 10:16 | 16 |
| Sandy:
Funny how the sound of psssssst can be music to your ears. Since this
thing with Pippin, the first thing I do when I get home is to check the
"wet" in the boxes. The cats think I'm nutz going through their boxes
like a bag lady. "Hey what's mom looking for?" "Pee, you Fools".
I've got two cats who will take hairball stuff right out of the tube.
I just squirt it into their mouth - then there's Gino - it ususally
takes two of us - wrap him up in a towel - front legs safely secured -
and then open the mouth and get it as far down the back as you can.
Problem is the damm stuff starts to melt before you can do a clean job.
So glad VG is doing so much better.
Giudi +3
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62.41 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Thu Dec 12 1991 10:45 | 20 |
| Bonnie...I would love to put it in his favorite food...but right
now he is on a very strict diet..so those options aren't there.
His favorite is "tuna" but I think those days are long gone.
We have tried it with the towel with two of us...and he really
doesn't struggle or fight..he just has very quick tongue movement
and loves to spit it out! Your right...the stuff starts to
melt instantly which doesn't make the job any easier. Maybe...I'm
just not shoving back far enough. You should have saw his face
and whiskers when we were done...and on top of that...my hubby
had it dripping down his pants...and my hands were full of the
gook. What a mess!!!
Thanks for all the support and well wishes. Last year VG didn't
have anyone to care or love him...but this year he has the
whole feline file giving him support. If he only knew what
a lucky guy he really is!!
Sandy
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62.42 | Glad to hear he is doing well | MUTTON::BROWN | | Thu Dec 12 1991 10:51 | 6 |
| Rub it into the fur on his foreleg. Don't put a glop there, just small
amounts and rub it in so that he has to groom it off. If you put a big
glop on his leg, he will just fling it off -- all over your furniture,
you, the walls, the carpet (the voice of experience here).
Jo
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62.43 | Grease him | TOMLIN::ROMBERG | some assembly required... | Thu Dec 12 1991 10:56 | 12 |
| Try smearing the stuff on a front leg (or any other part of their anatomy that
they have easy access to for cleaning). Cats hate to be 'dirty' and
will proceed to take whatever matters are appropriate to try to correct
the situation. Hannah is not particularly fond of petromalt, so I squeeze the
desired inch onto my finger, and then transfer it to her front leg, whichever
one I can grab. Make sure the stuff is firmly affixed to the leg, or else
the first shake will decorate the room with gooey gunk!!! Hannah then proceeds
to the furthest corner and sulks while stripping the hideous gunk from her
dainty self.
Simon, on the other hand, inhales the stuff. I don't squeeze it out of the tube
fast enough for him!!
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62.44 | | TENAYA::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Thu Dec 12 1991 11:31 | 2 |
| I use the front leg method also.
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62.45 | Hairball medication | MODEL::CROSS | | Thu Dec 12 1991 11:36 | 11 |
| I am so glad someone addressed the hairball medication issue, as I have
all four of my kittens at home coughing and hacking because of the
hairballs. Yet two of them would take the medication like it was
candy, and the other two....well, you'd swear I was performing upon
them the worst sort of torture! The leg method sounds perfect. I'm
going to go straight home tonite and lather them up! Thanks for the
great advice.
Nancy and her crew
Crew: YA, SURE, THANKS GUYS!!!! (said facetiously)
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62.46 | | VORTEX::TPMARY::TAMIR | DECforms roadie | Mon Dec 16 1991 08:47 | 10 |
| Sandy,
How did the weekend go?? How's "Vinnie" doing???
As for him not hating you after all you've done to him, imagine how much
little Beth must hate me for having her eyes removed...she hates me so
much she spent the night sleeping on my face under a down comforter.
Things could be worse.......
Mary
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62.47 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Mon Dec 16 1991 09:33 | 24 |
| V.G. went for another check-up on Saturday and he is doing
fine....urinating regurlarly...but is now having a small problem
with being constipated.
But...he is on my SH**list you can tell he is feeling better!!!
He is really bored, dying to go out...and is acting like I'm starving
him to death! So on Sunday we thought we would let him have a stroll
through the whole house..well he sprayed in my living room twice...nice
of him to mark his territory! Then he attacked my little girl (7 lbs)
Abby really bad and scared the heck out of her. She hid down the
cellar for the rest of the day. I felt so bad for her because last
week they were kissing and he caught her totally by surprised.
So...VG is confined to the bedroom again and we are holding off
on introductions. The big poophead...if he only knew how good
he could have it...if he would just get along with the rest of
the crew!!!
Sandy
ps...Mary, I would love to see you start a note about "Handicapped
Kitties" and provide us with a little history on Beth...and some
updates. I feel I know her personally and have been waiting
for updates.
|
62.48 | Update | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Mon Jan 06 1992 09:34 | 39 |
| Well...I just got back from a two week vacation and thought I
would give you an update on Van Gogh. Boy was it great spending
two weeks with all the kids!!!
VG was doing fine until Christmas day...and then we noticed his
many trips to the box to try and pass stool. He was urinating fine...
so it was due to his constipation. Well off he went again to the
vets for an enema and further tests. Ater spending another three days
at the vets...they have found out that Van Gogh has a hook at the end
of his intestines; therefore making it very hard to pass hard stool.
The vet explained it like "look under you sink and you will see
a trap pipe shaped like a "U"....this is what VG end of his intestines
look like. He also said this could be caused my an injury such as
someone kicking VG in the butt! Gee...I'd like to find this person!!
We now are feeding him wet mushy food with laxatives a couple times
a day. He has been home for over a week...and even through he
has a hard time passing the stool...it eventually does come out
within a day or two. Exercise does help him...so we try to play fetch
with and get him to run around.
We talked about long term care and possible operations...but the
vet wants to try and regulate his stools with mushy food, laxatives
and take a day at a time. He said other problems could develop if
they were to operate on his intestines.
Even though all this has happened to him since I took him in....
he still loves me dearly and is my big Teddy Bear!!! We still
need to keep him confined...because he literally attacks my
other cats and has continued to "spray to mark his territory".
(atleast he is peeing!!!)
I think this is going to be a long road. Has anyone had any
experience with Hooked intestines!!!! Poor VG...but he no
longer looks dirty and ragged....he has a beautiful clean shiny
black coat...he is gorgeous!!!
Sandy
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62.49 | Adding some fiber to the diet might help. | EMASS::SKALTSIS | Deb | Mon Jan 06 1992 16:16 | 11 |
| Argus went thru the FUS/constipation loop a number of times. It is
fairly common in cats that get overweight as a result of being put on
C/D. Anyhow, we eliminated the constipation problem by mixing in a
spoon full of bran with his wet food (he actually seemed to like the
texture with the bran better than without the bran). I've stopped
giving him wet food and have switched him onto Science Diet Light.
Since the light food contains a lot of fiber, his stool stays soft.
However, I still occasionally give him a spoon of bran on top of his
crunchies (since he licks the plate, he gets some bran, too).
Deb
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62.50 | | BOOVX1::MANDILE | Champagne tastes, beer budget | Tue Jan 07 1992 11:26 | 5 |
| My Rusty has a natural constriction of the bowel, causing
the same thing....surgery would cause other problems, so
it's physcillium muciloid (Metamucil-unflavored) for the
rest of his life added to his moist food.
|
62.51 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Wed Jan 15 1992 16:26 | 4 |
| Sweetie is on Metamucil permanently also, and has been for years.
It goes into all the cats' food since they eat out of each other's
dishes, and it does no harm if it's not needed.
|
62.52 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Thu Jan 16 1992 05:32 | 31 |
| Well after talking to Lynne off line...both my husband and I
sat down one night and discussed the fact that we did not
feel the laxative was doing the trick for Van Gogh. It seemed the
laxative would work for a day or two...but he would get bound
up again. We were going back and forth to the vets about every
fourth day!
Well I decided to talk to my vet about Metamucil...and his comment
was that it works on some cats...but not on others. So he said
he had no problem if I took VG off of the laxative and tried
the Metamucil. Well...it seems to be working. You can ask
Lynne...the day I sent her a note so happy stating that Ernie
and I were running around the house singing....VG Pooped...poopdedoo!
The funny part is she understood how thrilled we were!!! (I just
love animal lovers...nobody else would understand)
The vets said his ultimate goal will be to wean VG so he only
needs the Metamucil two/three times a week....but we still have
a way to go. BUT..my vet also warmed me that VG is now about
eight...and he has had a hell of a life (so many battle scars)
and as he grows older we could run into many problems caused by
his rough life he led.
The big guy still has an attitude problem with the rest of my
cats. When he first "moved in" he got along with them....but
now he literally attacks any cat in sight and then comes running
over to me and rubs up against me." I swear he is jealous...
So....he is still confined to his bedroom...and I feel really
bad that I have to do that. (guilt,,,,guilt....guilt)
Sandy
|
62.53 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Thu Jan 23 1992 09:30 | 19 |
| Well more kitty prayers are needed this way....Van Gogh is
back at the vets and they have taken a blood sample and have sent
it away for a full test. (including FIV, FIP and another FELUK test)
The vet requested this be done because he felt that if we were only
dealing with the "hook" intestine...the Metamucil or Laxative should
have controlled it. He also had another case of urinal blockage too!
Once we get the tests results back...we will meet with the vet to
discuss the results and determine the next step. If the blood test
come back okay...it might even mean exploratory surgery.
My poor baby.... My heart is breaking thinking this could be something
fatal. I just thank god that for the most part I have kept VG away
from my other cats. Keep fighting Van Gogh!!
Sandy
|
62.54 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Thu Jan 23 1992 09:47 | 6 |
| Chin up, Sandy. Remember how lucky Van Gogh is to have you
in his corner through this. He's in all our thoughts. Please let
us know as soon as you know anything.
Karen
|
62.55 | Thinking of YOU & VG | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | | Thu Jan 23 1992 10:45 | 7 |
| Sandy:
Take it one step at a time and leave nothing uncovered. My thoughts
and prayers are with you - please let us know the results as soon as
you are able.
Giudi
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62.56 | Poor baby! | SELECT::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Fri Jan 24 1992 04:45 | 6 |
| Sandy,
We'll be keeping our human fingers and kitty paws crossed for Van
Gogh. He's quite a fighter!
- Andrea & Bigfoot, Loki & Midnight
|
62.57 | | SENIOR::DDOUGLAS | | Fri Jan 24 1992 09:14 | 12 |
|
Sandy,
We are praying everyday that Van Gogh gets healthy again real soon.
I'm sure it's very heartbreaking for you and he is very lucky to have
a mom who loves him and cares so much for him and from the sounds of it
he is in good hands with your vet.
We'll keep those prayers coming...
Diana Tykey & Domino
|
62.58 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Mon Jan 27 1992 09:03 | 24 |
| As of Friday....all the tests for FIV, FIP and FELUK came back
negative....as well as the full blood test did not show anything
real alarming. VG came home on Friday afternoon and was happy, playing,
eating, peeing, and we were all very happy. More like off the wall
with joy!! That's the good news!!!
Then Saturday PM rolled around and VG started to go down hill, wouldn't
eat, became lethargic...so off he went back to the vets. They found
him bound up again and gave him an enema. His stools were hard
like cement. I called back late Saturday and they said he was
pretty peppy and felt much better after they relieved him.
The two vets and the assistant are arguing over how old VG really is.
One says 7, one says 9, and one says way over 12 and feels these
are signs of old age due to him being such a warrior.
I call back today to find out the game plan...they are waiting to
make the decision whether to do exploratory surgery.
God what a roller coaster of emotions!!
Sandy
|
62.59 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Wed Jan 29 1992 15:15 | 2 |
| How is Van Gogh doing?
|
62.60 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Thu Jan 30 1992 05:58 | 41 |
| He's back!!!! We brought Van Gogh home again last night...so
let's hope he stays there for a long time. Through process of
elimination the vets beleive the problem is do to an enlarged
colon (something called Megacolon). Van Gogh is now on a
strict diet of Hill RD (no substitution) with Milk of Magniase
two times a day. We are all keeping our fingers crossed hoping
this diet can control the problem...because our next step would
be surgery. According to the vet they will save surgery as the
last option...because some times it does not work and causes
further problems down the road. All fingers, toes, and paws
are crossed on this one.
To ease my own mind to ensure there were no other options available
to us...I spoke to another vet (Dr. Fallon who is the shelter vet)
and asked him his opinion. After discussing the symptoms and test
result...Dr Fallon also believe it probably is an enlarged colon..
and suggested the RD diet prior to trying surgery. So atleast I
have three vets in agreement...and I asked Dr. Fallon if he would
provide a second opinion if we do need the surgery.
As far as Van Gogh is...boy was he happy to see us...he was a royal
pain in the butt...but who cares!!!! He was trying to jump on
my counters (something he never did before) for food...and all he
wanted was to give bear hugs. We gave him a kitty condo since
he is confined to one room...so he walked in, smelled it and
sprayed it! (argh...smile atleast he is peeing)
BTW..Van Gogh will now be an indoor only cat. He deserves a life
of luxury after all he has been through.... The vets now believe
he is atleast 11 years old. there is a slight sign of catercats
in one eye. Gee....my big old man is showing signs of aging...
but so ain't I after what he has put us through!!
Thanks for all of you who have asked about him and sent me notes
offline. I feel like there is a crowd of wonderful people on
our side. If anyone has dealt with enlarged colon problems...I
would love to hear your experiences and treatments.
Sandy
|
62.61 | | STUDIO::PELUSO | PAINTS; color your corral | Thu Jan 30 1992 06:22 | 18 |
| Sandy
Van Gough is soo lucky!!!! He really sounds like Buster The Cat.
I never realized how much I loved the little guy untill he got sick
last week. The vet said he had pnenomia, and was on deaths door step.
She also said that we shouldn't move him because he was so used to the
environment at the barn that sudden changes in temperature or the
stress of moving him would put him over the edge. He was also
contageos and would transmit it to nippa. He couldn't breath, he
wouldn't eat, and he was barfing too....our hearts ached for him.
But we medicated him for a few days, and he started eating, his eyes
shone again, and he started protesting the medicine....so we knew he was
feeling better. It's been about 10 days now and Busters just about back
to normal, with the exception of a sniffle or two. This vet thinks he
could be about 7 - 10 years old, just like VG. Arn't we so lucky to
be bless with them, sandy.....
Michele
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62.62 | | JUPITR::KAGNO | Kitties with an Attitude | Thu Jan 30 1992 07:04 | 18 |
| Michele,
That happened to TK almost three years ago. He came down with
pneumonia and all he did was sit in one spot with his mouth hanging
open trying to breathe. I tried to feed him via syringe but he could
not keep anything down. It was awful! I was so afraid he would die.
The vet did not want me to bring him in or move him for the same
reasons and instructed me on what to do at home to bring him out of it.
I was so happy when he finally recovered!!
It was very critical to keep trying to syringe liquids into him (baby
food gruel mostly) since he is overweight and the risk of fatty liver
disease was high.
I'm glad to hear Buster is doing well!!
-Roberta
|
62.63 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Thu Jan 30 1992 07:51 | 11 |
| Michele...so happy Buster is better and thank god he found you!!
It's amazing how you can get totally attached to a cat that
needs you. My vet now considers Van Gogh the Mascot at his
office. He has commented that he wouldn't mind keeping him...
and in reality it might be easier for me because he does
not get along with my other cats and need to be confined...BUT
there is NO WAY I could give him up now...he is in my heart
to stay!!
Sandy
|
62.64 | | AUKLET::MEIER | Hey, furball, who pays the mortgage here? | Thu Jan 30 1992 10:58 | 10 |
| re .60 (Sandy)
> ...The vets now believe
> he is atleast 11 years old. there is a slight sign of catercats
> in one eye...
What are catercats? :-) Sorry, I couldn't resist the intrusion of the second
"cat" into that word...
Jill
|
62.65 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Thu Jan 30 1992 11:30 | 6 |
| now Jill...don't pick on me I have had one hell of a month!!!!
Catercats - little cats dressed in white blouses, black skirts with
aprons...... serving food!!!
Sandy
|
62.66 | Catercats exist! Don't let them unite! | WMOIS::GERDE_J | | Thu Jan 30 1992 13:15 | 7 |
| Though I haven't seen them myself, I know catercats exist. A couple of
them drove a tiny front-end loader through the last remaining
houseplant in the kitchen bay-window this morning. I asked my four
kittens about the new landscaping...they all said "Who me? I didn't do
it."
Jo-Ann
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62.67 | | AUKLET::MEIER | Hey, furball, who pays the mortgage here? | Thu Jan 30 1992 13:16 | 7 |
| Now, Sandy, you know I wouldn't pick on you even when you had a good month,
right? :-)
I've gotten real good at valuing differences and ignoring typos, spellos, and
grammos, but there are just some things you can't ignore. :-)
Jill
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62.68 | Update on VG | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Fri Jan 31 1992 09:34 | 33 |
| Latest Update...sniff sniff!! I just can't believe it...and thank
god Roberta is in the same building with me....because she listened/
comforted me all morning!
As of this morning Van Gogh is back at the vets. Last night he quit
eating and hadn't had a bowel movement since he came home on Wednesday
night. He kept making his trips to the litterbox...but nothing
came out. On top of this problem...he is also sneezing..so now we
fear he is coming down with a upper respitory problem. This morning
he threw-up and was very lethargic.
Well we spoke to our vet and we both agree that it is time to go
to Tufts. Van Gogh will stay at the vets over the weekend and
we have an appoinment at Tufts for monday morning.
I spoke to a Dr Wall at Tufts...and she shared with me that based
on all the tests that were already performed...they might need to
do more. Her first guess is that is it an enlarged colon...and they
might try a few more medical treatments (maybe WD this time) before
they would try surgery. (remove most of the large intestine..and
the cost would be between $600-800). The surgery has worked for
many cats....and it may cause diahrea for a few weeks.
Hopefully they can pin-point the problem, we can discuss the treatment
and the pros/cons and atleast I feel I will have enough knowledge
to do the right thing for Van Gogh.
I know I'm not being positive...but I'm not sure this big lovey dovey
guy can survive much more. How he keeps fighting is beyond me!!
I'll keep you posted....kitty prayers please!!
Sandy
|
62.69 | Hang in there, VG! | SELL3::FAHEL | Amalthea Celebras/Silver Unicorn | Fri Jan 31 1992 09:40 | 3 |
| Oh, you bet! Fingers and paws WILL be crossed!
K.C.
|
62.70 | | XNOGOV::LISA | Give quiche a chance | Fri Jan 31 1992 09:53 | 6 |
| Sandy,
Best wishes from "over here"!
Lisa.
|
62.71 | | FAIR90::WATSON | | Fri Jan 31 1992 10:09 | 5 |
| Sandy,
Best wishes from us too...
linda, bim, girl & nikki
|
62.72 | | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | | Fri Jan 31 1992 10:20 | 9 |
| Sandy:
Many special thoughts and prayers going out VG and you. Believe that
he is going to be fine and send him all that love and healing light.
Please keep us posted,
Love and hugs
Giudi + Pippin, Gino & StItCh
|
62.73 | Hope he's feeling better soon | MUTTON::BROWN | | Fri Jan 31 1992 11:06 | 7 |
| I tried searching the old file for Megacolon too, and had no luck
Sandy. But, I just thought of something, maybe the discussion on
megacolon was in a colitis note? I will go do some more checking.
Good luck to you and Van Gogh.
Jo
|
62.74 | | BOOVX2::MANDILE | Always carry a rainbow in your pocket | Fri Jan 31 1992 11:34 | 3 |
| Rusty's sending good kitty vibes to Van Gogh!
L-
|
62.75 | | MUTTON::BROWN | | Fri Jan 31 1992 18:05 | 10 |
| Sandy,
I only found one topic so far in the old Feline about colitis.
Ironically, it was created by you. :') Your sister's cat had colitis
and you were looking for more info. No mention of megacolon there.
I have been working on keywording some of the older notes in Feline_V1
so if I come across something I will let you know.
Jo
|
62.76 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Mon Feb 03 1992 09:31 | 27 |
| Thanks Jo...I looked in the old file as well...and saw my own note.
The funny part is the symptoms were diahrea...and Van Gogh sure doesn't
have that problem. At this point I would be thrilled to see diahrea.
Well we brought him to Tufts this morning. I was really impressed
with this hospital...and how they spent 45 minutes just discussing
Van Gogh's symptoms and history. Van Gogh put on his lovey dovey act and
everyone fell in love with him already. The vet was trying to make
out the paperwork and VG was sitting on it rubbing his head all
over her chin.
They are doing all the tests today (ultra sound, blood chemistry
profile, urinalysis, radiographs, and potential ultrasound guided
biopsy if needed) they will call me tonight and let me know what they
have diagnosed. These tests with a two day hosptial stay is estimated
at $545...and if we need surgery that will be estimated at $600-800....
but they will try to fix the problem medically and leave surgery as the
last resort. Even though this is going to cost me some big bucks...
I am happy we brought him to Tufts and hopefully he can come home
soon.
Sandy
|
62.77 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Mon Feb 03 1992 10:09 | 9 |
| When Sweetie had this problem he had both blockage and diarrhea
(leakage) at the same time. In his case, a car accident had partly
crushed in his pelvis, causing blockage which surgery and a lifetime
of Metamucil every day has fixed, thank goodness. Van Gogh doesn't
look somewhat narrow when you look at him from the back, does he?
That's how the vet and I first twigged to the fact that Sweetie had
probably been in an accident (before I got him) and the bones had
healed improperly. Xrays confirmed it.
|
62.78 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Mon Feb 03 1992 10:17 | 9 |
| Karen,
I haven't notice anything in particular about VG being narrower...but
I'm sure Tufts will find out what it is with all the tests.
I have noticed that within the last few weeks...he has lost some
weight....but he was a bit on the heavy side to begin with!
Sandy
|
62.79 | Final Diagnosis!! | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Wed Feb 05 1992 10:12 | 81 |
|
Well...I am happy to say that Van Gogh came home from Tufts last
night with a very sore bum!! the good news is that Tufts really
felt they were going to find an underlining problem with either
a tumor or problems with liver/kidney....but all the tests came
back okay! They said he is very healthy...with the exception of
his intestines. Karen...they did check out the hips to ensure
he was not hit by a car!!
The final diagnosis:
1. Megacolon (how this was explained to me is that the large
intestine is inflammed and the muscles which are used to
move the stool through are weak and cannot move hard stool.
The problem is caused from unknown origin...but they do see
it in older cats.
2. Suspicious area in intestine near hips on X-ray -
Beleive to be inflammation but can not rule out
stricture or less likely start of tumor.
Tests performed:
1. Radiographs
2. Urinalyusis
3. Blood chemistry profile
4. CBC
5. Laxtulose
6. Barium Enema
What they found and had to do:
they found a very hard solid piece of waste in VG's intestine. the
comment was that every time he had an enema...the waste would break
up a little....but they doubted it would every come out without
some help. This is why they believe the suspicious area is from
the inflammation of this waste.
1. Gave VG 5 or 6 enema's yesterday morning
2. Put him under anesthesia for 2 1/2 hours
3. Manually went through his bum/intestines and took the
waste out. (now you know why he has a sour bum)
Medical Home Instructions:
1. give medicine as directed (Lactulose - which is a strong
liquid stool softerner. Diet=RD
2. Will have diarrhea for a day or two. If stool remains
too loose decrease medication to twice a day.
3. Call vet on Friday and give update
4. If problem recurs or persists, VG will need surgery. (they
told me that they have a vet that specializes in this surgery
which will be to remove the part of the bad intestine...and
this vet has a great success rate and is publishing her second
thesis on the subject.)
Cost to date: Tufts = $379
my vet = $175
Well VG was pretty drugged last night...and had a very dirty/sore
bum. We tried to help him and clean it up for him....but there
was noway he was going to let anyone else go near his backside.
We just let him rest all night. And I am very HAPPY to say that
this morning he was running around, talking very happily, eating
like a pig, and wanting alot of love. He had cleaned himself up
and even had a semi soft stool in his litter. WOW...real poop!
God...I hope this is the end of this story!!! I want to share
happy thoughts...and am so sick of riding this roller coaster but
I will not give up knowing he is healthy in every other way!
Thanks to all who have listen to me and cared over the last few
months...all I can say is thank god for this notesfile.
Jo...can we change the name of the title that reads Van Gogh -FUS
because that clearly is not the problem and I would not want
someone to read this thinking it is a FUS problem. Also the
keyword might need changing.
Sandy
|
62.80 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Wed Feb 05 1992 10:15 | 7 |
| Oh...and one more comment on Van Goghs' medical memo:
Van Gogh is a great cat - he is very very popular boy at Tufts.
He was known as the half-scottish fold...and the ear got him
alot of attention!!
|
62.81 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Wed Feb 05 1992 10:26 | 6 |
| This sounds like good news. Our fingers are crossed. You can
modify stuff about a note you own yourself -- do a help on
modify note.
Karen
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62.82 | keep up the good work | FORTSC::WILDE | why am I not yet a dragon? | Wed Feb 05 1992 10:33 | 8 |
| You are certainly doing all the right stuff....VG is a lucky old guy to
find you. I have a friend with an old fellow who gets along with daily
doses of metamucil in his food - sounds like VG has something a lot worse.
Take care of him.
D
|
62.83 | :^) | SELL3::FAHEL | Amalthea Celebras/Silver Unicorn | Wed Feb 05 1992 11:12 | 5 |
| Way to go, Van Gogh!
We're all pulling for you!
K.C., Leigh, Rico and Alex
|
62.84 | fixed it | MUTTON::BROWN | | Wed Feb 05 1992 11:31 | 6 |
| I have changed the note title and the keywording on this note to
reflect the diagnosis of Megacolon.
Glad to hear the Van Gogh is doing so much better.
Jo
|
62.85 | | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | You Can Leave Your Hat On | Wed Feb 05 1992 16:15 | 6 |
| Praying that this does the trick. Poor baby has been through so much
but, really, what a lucky guy to have such a wonderful caring mom.
Good thoughts coming your way.
Giudi +3
|
62.86 | | SENIOR::DDOUGLAS | | Thu Feb 06 1992 09:12 | 12 |
|
Sandy,
I'm so happy to hear Van Gogh is doing better, talk about a
mystery. Sounds like you both could use a nice long relaxing week.
Van Gogh is very lucky to have such a caring, loving mom...
Keep the good news coming...
Diana, Tykey, Domino
|
62.87 | e | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Thu Feb 06 1992 09:44 | 18 |
| Actually we are the ones that are lucky. both Ernie and I were talking
last night and we both agreed that Van Gogh came into our life
during a very bad depressing time for both of us. If you remember
I had lost my beloved Tamba in October...and Van Gogh joined my
house in November.
It's not the VG will ever replace Tamba because nobody could take
his place he was my baby......but god VG sure has kept us busy on
a very long roller coaster ride! And there is nothing like a cat
that needs you to keep your energy level going. I know Tamba
sent him our way!
My gut says...he will need the operations...but all my fingers/toes
and cats paws are all crossed on this one. (Jill...my gut really
didn't say it!!! ha ha beat you to it!!)
Sandy
|
62.88 | Keep it up, Van Gogh! | SELECT::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Fri Feb 07 1992 05:47 | 13 |
| Hi Sandy,
Here's sending people and kitty prayers to you and Van Gogh. He's
a little (big ;-) ?) trooper for putting up with so much.
Maybe I'll see you at Tufts. I have to take Loki in on Monday at
4:00 for a consultation - his diabetes is out of control and it's
possible he has a pancreatic cyst :-( .
Please give Van Gogh a hug and a kiss for me. He's being so
patient (if only we could ;-) !).
- Andrea
|
62.89 | | WILLEE::MERRITT | | Fri Feb 07 1992 05:53 | 15 |
| Well he's still hanging in there...and he has been home for
a full three days!! (this is a record!!) His diahrea has
turned into semi-hard little balls....but they want it to
be softer. I have to call them today with an update.
Andrea...even though I would love to meet you...I sure hope
I'm not at Tufts Monday!!!! Good luck to you and Loki!!
He is one heck of a big trooper..who stole all our hearts!!
He must know that there are so many wonderful folks rooting
for him!!
Sandy
|
62.90 | Keep up the good work! | SELECT::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Fri Feb 07 1992 07:12 | 6 |
| I hope you're not at Tufts Monday either ;-) ! But if you are,
just look around - at least we could commisserate!
3 days - way to go!
- Andrea
|
62.91 | Latest Update..sniff | MAYES::MERRITT | | Mon Feb 10 1992 05:10 | 33 |
| Well Van Gogh had to go back to Tufts on Saturday and he will
be operated on either Monday or Tuesday.(sniff) As of Friday night he
had quit eating and started his two minute trips back and forth
to the litterbox.
Dr. Crystal at Tufts admitted him on Saturday because he was already
starting to get bound up and they now realize they cannot treat this
medically. The laxative he was taking was one of the strongest ones
and was the last step prior to surgery.
Dr. Crystal said the surgeon will be taking out about approximately
70-80% of his large intestines . They have been doing a study and
they now use staples on the intestines instead of stiches..so
you barely have any scar tissue. He said they have a wonderful
success rate...and VG should be okay. To make me feel go he even
went over some recent cases that were very similar to VG's...and
the kitties are doing great.
The side effects of the operation will be bad diahrea for a couple
of weeks due to his body changing over and making his small
intestine do most of the work...but after that VG will probably be
on a normal diet and possibly some type of mild laxative for the
rest of his life. I possibly can take him home on Wednesday or Thursday.
My stomach is in quite a knot...and I pray VG will have the
strength to make it through as well as the will to continue
to fight. He is a trooper....
All fingers/toe/paws are crossed for you big guy!
Sandy
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62.92 | | JUPITR::KAGNO | Kitties with an Attitude | Mon Feb 10 1992 06:26 | 7 |
| Sandy,
I will pray for VG! He will be fine, wait and see. You know I'm only
a few aisles away if you need to talk!!
-Roberta
|
62.93 | | SELL3::FAHEL | Amalthea Celebras/Silver Unicorn | Mon Feb 10 1992 06:37 | 3 |
| Hang in there, V.G.!
K.C., Leigh, Rico & Alex
|
62.94 | He'll be okay! | SELECT::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Mon Feb 10 1992 08:57 | 4 |
| I'll be praying for Van Gogh too. I'll send an extra prayer when
I'm in today with Loki.
- Andrea
|
62.95 | | SENIOR::DDOUGLAS | | Mon Feb 10 1992 09:10 | 12 |
|
Sandy,
I'm so sorry to hear that Van Gogh had to go back on Saturday.
I am really glad to hear that they have such a high success rate for
this type of operation.
We will keep VG very close in our daily prayers.
Diana, Tykey & Domino
|
62.96 | We're Praying For You VG | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | You Can Leave Your Hat On | Mon Feb 10 1992 09:11 | 15 |
| Dear VG:
You've got lots of prayers and special thoughts comming your way. We
know it's been tough for you, but just wait and see, everythig is gonna
be just fine. Hang in there big guy
Lots of luv and purrs and good stuff
from
Pippin, Gino & StiTch
(p.s. & Giudi too)
Sandy, special hugs to you.
|
62.97 | | VORTEX::TPMARY::TAMIR | DECforms Roadie | Mon Feb 10 1992 10:24 | 9 |
| Poor Vinnie!! Poor Sandy!! I can only think about what I went thru with Beth
when I read about VG. But, I can just picture him with his little clostomy
pouch.....
Hang in Sandy...there's a special place in heaven for us looney-tunes that
take in this kitties (I think it's right next door to the giant litter box
in the sky...)
Mary
|
62.98 | many,many toes! | PARITY::DENISE | And may the traffic be with you | Mon Feb 10 1992 13:53 | 5 |
|
Approximately 218 toes are crossed for V.G!
That includes 11 cats (some are polydactyls)
and me!
Good luck........Denise
|
62.99 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Mon Feb 10 1992 13:56 | 9 |
| Staples....isn't this what they do to very overweight people
so that they lose weight (less area for the food to be absorbed)?
Perhaps once everything settles down, VG will need to be fed
more. Please let us know how he is,
fingers and paws crossed,
Karen, S, H, and LB.
|
62.100 | | STUDIO::PELUSO | PAINTS; color your corral | Tue Feb 11 1992 05:25 | 4 |
| Hi Sandy.....I hope VG is doing better....He's in good hands at Tufts.
Michele & Nippa
|
62.101 | | SELECT::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Wed Feb 12 1992 07:27 | 12 |
| Hi Sandy,
We're pulling for Van Gogh too. Loki came home yesterday; I told
him that if he was in the same ward ("A" ward) to tell VG that we sent
our love. Don't know if he did ;-) .
Loki's ultrasound came out perfect so it looks like just "plain
old" diabetes. What a relief! Tufts has done well by Bigfoot (going
into his third year since surgery!) and Loki, I know they'll do well by
VG too!
- Andrea
|
62.102 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Wed Feb 12 1992 10:16 | 4 |
| Andrea, was it you that I promised I look for that article about
diabetes? I went thru all my cat magazines and couldn't find it;
that's what I get for straightening up and throwing out stuff.
|
62.103 | | SELECT::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Wed Feb 12 1992 11:07 | 8 |
| Hi Karen,
Yep, it was me, but that's okay. I got more information from 30
minutes talking with the vet at Tufts than I got from two months with
the other vet. The other vet was very good, and I would go to her
again, but I'm afraid she's not experienced enough with diabetes.
- Andrea
|
62.104 | GRAND VAN GOGH | MAYES::MERRITT | | Thu Feb 13 1992 05:53 | 35 |
| What a trooper Van Gogh is!!! He had his surgery on Tuesday and
I received a call Tuesday night from the surgeon (Dr. Gallagher)
who said VG was still recovering. They did take out about 80%
of his colon...which was a pretty big operation. The Dr shared
with me all the things that possibly could go wrong and it really put a
big scare in me. I know they have to share that information...but
I was a total basketcase. He said best case VG could come home
Friday or Saturday.
Well I got a call from the surgeon again last night with great
news!! He said VG was doing super (he couldn't believe how
good he was doing) and he was already eating and drinking which
they did not expect. He had a slight tempature..but that was to be
expected...and if the tempature goes down today...HE GETS TO COME
HOME TONIGHT. He will still need to be monitored closely for
any signs of infection or the inside sutures opening up which
would mean another operation.
We have changed VG name to GVG..which means GRAND VAN GOGH..because
that is what this will end up costing us! But...how the heck could
I give up on him...when he never gave up on us not even for a minute!
Just to see him in his litterbox doing his thing will be payback for
me...yup even if it is diahrea!
I'll know more at 4:00 today...but either way...I'm going to visit
him tonight even if he doesn't come home! Thanks for all the well
wishes..and keep praying that he completely recovers.
Sandy
Ps..Andrea...so glad Loki tests were okay!! I'm sure VG sent well
wishes too!
|
62.105 | | JUPITR::KAGNO | Kitties with an Attitude | Thu Feb 13 1992 06:38 | 7 |
| TEFFIC NEWS, SANDY! GVG must be reading this file on the sly and
picking up good vibes. :^)
What a great update to read first thing in the morning!
-Roberta
|
62.106 | | VORTEX::TPMARY::TAMIR | DECforms Roadie | Thu Feb 13 1992 07:24 | 9 |
| YIPPPPEEEEE!!!! Way to go, GVG!!! Great news!
And Sandy, welcome to what I call "The Four Digit Club"! Beth's a charter
member.... My vet told me that God never gives us more than we can handle,
He just doesn't provide the funding!!
We ought to have a Feline Bake Sale!!
Mary
|
62.107 | | SENIOR::DDOUGLAS | | Thu Feb 13 1992 08:54 | 12 |
|
Sandy,
I am just so happy for you guys. I'm sure it's a tremendous
worry off your mind. Talk about an experience...I'm really very happy
for you and the big guy and I hope his progress is all uphill from here
on in..
Keep the great news coming.
Diana, Tykey & Domino
|
62.108 | I *knew* he'd do it!! | SELECT::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Thu Feb 13 1992 09:30 | 11 |
| Sandy,
HOORAY!!!! I'm *so* glad for you and Van Gogh ... oh excuse me
... "Grand" Van Gogh (Bigfoot cost two!). God may not provide the
funding (I like that one ;-) ), but he does provide the means - either
plastic or arrangement. BTW if you want to make arrangements to pay
the balance in installments, call the billing office *before* you pick
up Van Gogh. You can't make arrangements after 5:00, which of course
is when discharges start.
- Andrea
|
62.109 | :^) | CIVIC::FAHEL | Amalthea Celebras/Silver Unicorn | Thu Feb 13 1992 10:18 | 6 |
| Its funny...just last night my hub was asking for a Van Gogh update.
I'm so glad that I have good news to bring back to him!
Go-go Grand Van Gogh!
K.C., Leigh, Rico and Alex
|
62.110 | | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | You Can Leave Your Hat On | Thu Feb 13 1992 11:41 | 18 |
| Sandy:
This is such wonderful news - I can imagine just how your feeling.
These little guys are tough and your GVG has a very great heart and
strong will as well. He knows exactly how much you love him and how
hard you are trying to get him well - you didn't give up on him and
he's not giving up on you. Many prayers and lots of blessings coming
your way from:
The Fossat's
P.S. My first cat Ting, lost 2/3's of his skin (that's right folks)
due to improper medication - spent 3 months at the vets and pulled
through - it was truly a MIRACLE. This vet asked me if I had perhaps
been praying to St. Francis or St. Jude and I told him yes. I guess
they heard me.
|
62.111 | | MAYES::MERRITT | | Thu Feb 13 1992 12:55 | 10 |
| I am feeling great...but still a bit hesitant to get overjoyed!!
I just talked to the surgeon and he said VG was doing good...but
they would prefer he stays one more might!!!
Well atleast I get to go visit him tonight and have time to clean
his room for his return home...and then we will be together for
the weekend so I can monitor him closely.
Sandy
|
62.112 | | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | You Can Leave Your Hat On | Thu Feb 13 1992 15:33 | 3 |
| Give him lots of hugs and pets and kisses for me.
Giudi
|
62.113 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | | Fri Feb 14 1992 05:51 | 29 |
| I visited VG last night for over an hour...and boy does he look
GREAT!!!!! He was bright eyed, walking around giving head butts
to anything in his way, giving his famous bear hug, and just purring
up a storm. He even rolled over and let me rub his funny looking
belly...he has about 10 visible stiches!
He looks so funny though...he actually looks like a toy poodle who
just got one of those famous hair cuts. His belly is completely
shaved, he has two shaved spots on his sides (that is where the heart
monitors were), he has a small shaved spot on his neck (that is where
they took blood) and he has one front leg and one back leg that is shave
partially giving him the appearance of wearing furry boots. (that is
where the IV's were). I'm going to have to take a picture of this
guy.....
I had goose bumps and was so nervous on my way to Tufts...I just didn't
know what to expect. But once I saw him....and he hugged me...I got
a sense that we were going to make it through this okay!
I find out today if he can come home tonight. He will be totally
confined to my spare room because I have seven other cats sneezing
and I sure don't want VG to catch that! Is there some type of
non-toxic spray I can use to kill the germs in the air?? Should
I wash the bedding in bleach??? How would get a wood floor germ
free? Any other precautions I can take??
Hopefully he will be home for good!!
Sandy
|
62.114 | cheap disinfectant | MUTTON::BROWN | | Fri Feb 14 1992 09:41 | 9 |
| Mix up some bleach and water solution in a spray bottle and use it
liberally, especially on your hands and clothing before you handle VG.
Wash the bedding with bleach if the other cats have been in there
recently. Also wouldn't hurt to spray down the surfaces in the room.
Mix the bleach water 1:32.
Jo
|
62.115 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | | Fri Feb 14 1992 09:55 | 19 |
| Thanks Jo.....
HE IS COMING HOME TONIGHT....YABBA DABBA DO!!!
I do want to make note that the vet told me that many cases
of Megacolon can be treated medically and not all cases need
to have the same operation as Van Gogh. Under many conditions
a cat can live a normal life by just adding mineral oil or
metamucil to the diet. If that doesn't work they try a
stonger liquid laxative...and the operation is actually the
last step.
He says he has seen many cases of Megacolon...some moderate
some real bad....but they still have no actual proof of what
causes this in some cats.
I can't wait until I get out of here tonight!!!!
Sandy
|
62.116 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Fri Feb 14 1992 11:12 | 2 |
| Hurray for Van Gogh!
|
62.117 | All-Right | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | You Can Leave Your Hat On | Fri Feb 14 1992 12:58 | 3 |
| Welcome home big boy!!
Giudi, Pippin, Gino & StItcH
|
62.118 | | RIPPLE::KENNEDY_KA | Metamorphosis | Fri Feb 14 1992 18:08 | 3 |
| All smiles for VG!
Karen
|
62.119 | Yes, yes, yes!!! | DKAS::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Mon Feb 17 1992 06:01 | 0 |
62.120 | Update on GVG | MAYES::MERRITT | | Thu Feb 20 1992 05:39 | 19 |
| Just wanted to share some good news with you....FINALLY!!!!
Van Gogh is doing GREAT! His incision still looks nice and clean
and he will be having his stitches out either Saturday or Monday.
He just loves his CD wet and dry and is eating like a little piggy.
He has had a few cases of diahrea...but that was the expectation for
atleast another two weeks. I swear he smiles when he goes in his
litterbox now.
He was playing so hard the other night...I had to stop him because
I was so afraid he was going to pop a stitch. He is a very happy
kitty...and we are very happy parents!
It is truly amazing how fast cats get over a major operation...I'm sure
we are not totally out of the woods yet...but things are looking
GREAT!
Sandy
|
62.121 | All Smiles | DKAS::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Thu Feb 20 1992 06:05 | 6 |
| Sandy,
That's *fantastic*!!!! Congratulations to you and (Grand ;-) )
Van Gogh!!!!!
- Andrea
|
62.122 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Thu Feb 20 1992 10:40 | 2 |
| Terrific! Great news! Hugs to GVG.
|
62.123 | Oh boys... | MAMIE::IVES | | Thu Feb 20 1992 11:03 | 6 |
| Sandy - Hugs and lots of them to Van Gogh. Glad to hear that all
systems are a go.!!!! Hopefully things will just get better and
better. He sure deserves it with all he's been through. (You and
hubby are great.)
Barbara
|
62.124 | Cheers for the Trouper! | MODEL::CROSS | | Thu Feb 20 1992 11:45 | 7 |
| Sandy,
So glad to hear about Van Gogh....have been eagerly following this saga
since his very first appearance at your place! He's like a mascot to
us all now, I'm sure!
Nancy
|
62.125 | | SANDY::FRASER | Err on a G String | Thu Feb 20 1992 11:52 | 4 |
|
Great news about Van Gogh! You must be thrilled! :^}
Sandy
|
62.126 | :-) | CIMNET::GLADDING | Noters do it with a 8-) | Thu Feb 20 1992 11:58 | 1 |
| :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
|
62.127 | | CIVIC::FAHEL | Amalthea Celebras/Silver Unicorn | Thu Feb 20 1992 12:29 | 3 |
| And another :^)!
K.C.
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62.128 | | STUDIO::PELUSO | PAINTS; color your corral | Thu Feb 20 1992 12:40 | 4 |
|
It's great to get such good news!!!!!!!!!!
|
62.129 | Wonderful! | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | You Can Leave Your Hat On | Fri Feb 21 1992 09:11 | 13 |
| !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
and more hugs and kisses to the GVG.
Great news,
Giudi
|
62.130 | Worms Now | MAYES::MERRITT | | Wed Feb 26 1992 10:13 | 15 |
| Van Gogh is still doing great....but last night I noticed
a worm in his wet stools!! (sigh!!) It has been two weeks
since his operation...and he has been confined in the room
since then...how the heck could the worm live through what
he has been through. It defininetly was a worm...because
it was moving. Yuck!
I have a call into the surgeon at Tufts who asked me to inform
him of any type of bowel problems. even though this is not a bowel
problem he is expecting...I want his opinion as to whether VG should
be dewormed at this time.
This guy is truly going to give me ulcers!!
Sandy
|
62.131 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Wed Feb 26 1992 10:18 | 7 |
| Very glad to here VG's operation seems to have fixed the major problem.
I think you're doing the right thing calling the vet, just in case, to
check about any treatment while he's still in a relatively
new stage of adjustment. But, it does sound like the operation really
permanently fixed things, doesn't it? He never made it this long
without a problem before, did he? Yea!
|
62.132 | | MAYES::MERRITT | | Wed Feb 26 1992 10:51 | 30 |
| Karen your right VG hasn't gone this long without problems...
so hopefully this operation has fixed things....I continue
to knock on wood!!
I have never seen the big guy look so good and he is acting
like a playful kitten. He snuck out of his room and beat the
crap out of my poor little Angus...so I know he is feeling good.
Poor Angus who is not a fighter and was totally shocked by VG.
The funny part is VG doesn't spit, growl or hiss....just attacks!
We decided the only way we can even attempt to start introductions
to the rest of the family was to buy a cage, set it up in my
living room, and let VG spend a few hours a night observing. I
sure hope this works because I hate to think of him confined to
my spare room.
The surgeon at Tufts ask me specifically if he could stay on VG's
case because he is continuing to study problems with Megacolon.
He also shared that he will be working part time at Tufts and
part time at Angel Memorial in Boston for the next four months...
so he asked me if I would mind hunting him down at either
hospital. My comment was "in my opinion you pulled a miracle
with VG...and I'll find you no matter where you go".
Even though I have alot of experience with worms...and have the
medication at home...I sure wouldn't give anything to VG unless
the vet told me to do so.
Sandy
|
62.133 | | SELL1::FAHEL | Amalthea Celebras/Silver Unicorn | Wed Feb 26 1992 11:22 | 4 |
| *sigh* If it ain't one thing, its another. But, things are sounding
GOOD! :^)
K.C.
|
62.134 | let 'em smell each other | FORTSC::WILDE | why am I not yet a dragon? | Wed Feb 26 1992 12:45 | 7 |
| the cage idea is a good one....in my experience, once the cats smells get well
mingled, they will mostly ignore one another unless a face-to-face occurs...
which seems to be cleared up with hissing and "angry giant noises", and
puffing up real big..but little action. It shouldn't take too long for the
old guy to settle in. I am glad you are so patient with him, it has probably
been a long time since he felt this good...maybe never before.
|
62.135 | | MAYES::MERRITT | | Thu Feb 27 1992 09:16 | 21 |
| I spoke to the surgeon last night regarding the worm I found
in VG's stool...and he said that it would be no problem deworming
him. So we collected a stool sample and brought it to the
vets this morning to determine what type of worm we are dealing
with and then we will medicate.
The surgeon was very happy to hear how well VG was doing....and
still said I should expect diahrea for a couple of more weeks. I
also got the okay that in two weeks we can start weaning him from
the CD and go back to normal food...but he also said it would be
okay to keep him on CD. Right now I feel like everything is
working with the CD...VG loves it...so I might continue to use
it for awhile.
Hopefully VG's medical problems are over.....and he can live
his life being spoiled rotten and pampered!
Sandy
|
62.136 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | | Mon Mar 02 1992 11:53 | 18 |
| Well this weekend we got a cage for VG to try and help
us with the introductions...ha ha...this is going to be
a long process.
We set up the cage in my living room, brought VG in and
let him settle down a bit before we allowed one of my other
cats to come in the room. Vg did fine....UNTIL...poor little
Dewey stuck his head in the room...and VG actually plunged
at the cage as if he was going through it. Poor Dewey just
backed off and sat in a corner..and VG would not take his
eyes off of him. No growling or spitting...just staring...that
is until Dewey tried to walk away...and VG plunged at the
cage again. Same thing happened when Abby walked in....and
VG never calmed down after that.
This is not going to be easy.....
Sandy
|
62.137 | | TOMLIN::ROMBERG | some assembly required... | Mon Mar 02 1992 12:14 | 12 |
| What I tried with my last new kitten was
1) lock him in a separate room when I wasn't there
2) when I got home from work, put him in another room and let Hannah
check out the room he had been in all day for a half hour or so
3) after the half hour, let Simon out
This gave Hannah a change to check out the unfamiliar smells without being
attacked by a playful kitten. After being ignored/locked up all day, Simon
come looking or me, since I made more noise than Hannah. It wouldn't be until
after Hannah had done all her snooping and she would come down for some
attention of her own that Simon would want to play with her. Other than that,
they had all day to play footsie under the door....
|
62.138 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | | Mon Mar 02 1992 12:41 | 23 |
| We tried the separate room with allowing VG in the kitchen
for a few hours a night where he could get the scent of
my other cats....but this hasn't worked at all. that is
why I got the cage figuring he could "watch" them for awhile.
They do play "footsie" under the door!!
As soon as VG even sees a cat...it is an all out attack with
no spitting/growling but he does draw blood. I truly don't
feel my other cats would have a problem being introduced...
(they have been through this numerous times) but it is Van
Gogh who won't accept another four legged creature.
Of course VG is about eight years old and had to fend for
himself out in the wild for many years...so this isn't going
to be easy.
Sandy
BTW...I have some great pictures of Van gogh in his poodle
hair cut after the operation....which I can't wait to show
you at your next feline get-together. the pictures are great...
|
62.139 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Mon Mar 02 1992 13:20 | 14 |
| Even after my first cat Pussycat was altered, he reached a
plateau where he still had some behavior problems. I've actually
forgotten the details, but the vet tried a temporary deal for
giving him some female hormone (I think that's what it was)
and it calmed him down considerable. After a fairly short course
of treatment (maybe it was even just one shot, or one sequence
of pills) he maintained a much calmer frame of mind.
I think Pussycat was 3 or 4 when he came to live with me. Also,
maybe a temp course of tranquilizers? I'm suggesting this
stuff in case it looks like the problem isn't getting any
better, as opposed to the normal takes-awhile-to-adjust
situation.
|
62.140 | VG, Whoever does your hair?! | JUPITR::KAGNO | Kitties with an Attitude | Mon Mar 02 1992 13:29 | 7 |
| I can vouch for those pictures!! Way funny!
I feel like I know VG personally having followed his dillema from
unwanted stray to happy housepet!
-Roberta
|
62.141 | Sandy, you're the greatest! | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | | Tue Mar 03 1992 06:14 | 20 |
| Sandy,
I think you're SSSOOOOO wonderful! I'm sure VG is just so used to
having you to himself for so long, (or it seems so to him) and all he
has been through, must have alot to do with his behavior. Now that he's
feeling better, he figures he'd better make sure the others know you
are HIS.
You have been so patient with him for so long, and I know you will
continue this, and one day, when you least expect it, someone will come
up to you and say, "VG is palying with one of the other cats!!!" And
all will be well in the Merritt household again.
Thanks again for caring so much about our furry friend! So, when are
we going to get together so we can see these pictures? ;-) What am I
saying? Holly will have my head if I show up with no pictures of my two
again! I'll work on it! ;-)
Love,
Y
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62.142 | Give him lots and lots of time | MUTTON::BROWN | | Tue Mar 03 1992 09:35 | 7 |
| It may just be that VG's hormones haven't settled from his neutering
yet. It can take several months for those hormones to settle down
sometimes. In the meantime, keeping him in the cage is a good idea.
That way he can see them, but not hurt them. It is safer for everyone
this way.
Jo
|
62.143 | | STUDIO::PELUSO | PAINTS; color your corral | Tue Mar 03 1992 10:03 | 8 |
| Chester was neutered a few weeks ago, and he's still pretty aggressive
towards Buster, the king. Buster just hisses and baps him, and
Chester retreats.....I think it will take a few more weeks for him
to settle down.
Now that I think of it, there were reports from the kids that Buster
was still trying to breed anything and everything for a few months
after he was neutered.
|
62.144 | step one is a good start | FORTSC::WILDE | why am I not yet a dragon? | Tue Mar 03 1992 10:15 | 6 |
| once his hormones settle down...and familiarity breeds boredom (the smell
and view of the other cats will become "normal" for him after awhile...honest,
it just takes time), he should be okay. He is just "protecting" his
interests - and the cats are strangers to him. Your advantage is that he
is obviously a very bright boy - he survived for a loooong time out there...
not many cats do. He'll adapt because he can, and he needs to.
|
62.145 | | MAYES::MERRITT | | Wed Mar 04 1992 06:05 | 27 |
| I guess what I don't understand was when VG was a stray..he
always ate on my porch with other cats. They use to sit in
the sun together...and touch noses. And then when we first
brought him in last November after he was fixed (but before
he had all his intestine problems) he did get along okay with
most of my cats. there were a few spits/growls...but that
was it....never an attack.
But now after all his operations and all the human attention
he has been getting ...I truly feel his problem is jealousy
and he doesn't want to share us. He has faith in all humans...
even ones he does not know!!! I guess I spoiled him rotten!
He has taught me patience....so I'm sure over time we
will work this out....but it will not be easy! He has stopped
his Spraying...so maybe that is a start.
I did have another scare yesterday....he had spots of blood in
his stool. I called Dr. Gallagher (surgeon) right away...but
he said as long as he is eating, pooping, and acting good...there
is no need to worry. Sometimes when the intestines heal...bits of
them die and drop off which can cause blood spots. He said just
keep an eye on him and check for worms. He was just dewormed last
Friday for Tapeworm. I could write a book...The Ups and Downs
of GVG!
Sandy
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62.146 | he knows he's lucky | FORTSC::WILDE | why am I not yet a dragon? | Wed Mar 04 1992 09:27 | 2 |
| He'll come around...I'm sure he is just aware of how lucky he is...and is
willing to fight to keep you guys.
|
62.147 | Canned Pumpkin???? | MAGEE::MERRITT | | Tue Mar 17 1992 11:32 | 30 |
| Well it has been 5 weeks since Van Gogh's operation...boy
does time fly!!!
I just got off the phone with the surgeon because VG still
seems to have quite a bit of diahrea and he has a sore bum!
(he won't sit down on it) Well the surgeon seems to think
the bum is sore because of all the diahrea so he gave me
a new product to add to his diet to hlep clear up the
diahrea. The new product is "Canned Pumpkin". Do you
believe it??? I have to add one Tbls of pumpkin to his
CD food in the AM and PM. Boy this will be a big treat
for him after eating only CD for 5 weeks.
I also spoke to the surgeon because I have noticed that
VG has been drinking alot of water lately...and he said
this was normal because his colon is no longer there. I
also told him that VG seems to think I'm starving him to
death...so I got the okay to add a few more ounces of
wet food each day.
Other then this problem...VG seems so happy and playful.
Let's hope the diahrea gets cleared up by next week...or
we might have to go back for another visit. (sigh!!)
Sandy
ps..We put a hold on the introductions to the household
until we can get his stool semi normal! He poops all
the time! I know it's better then no poop!!
|
62.148 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Tue Mar 17 1992 11:41 | 3 |
| Hm, I wonder if Metamucil would help if the canned pumpkin doesn't
work out; might be worth asking the vet. poor VG.
|
62.149 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | | Tue Mar 17 1992 11:50 | 9 |
| Now that I have time to think....since canned pumpkin has alot
of fiber...wouldn't fiber cause more diahrea!! This doesn't
make sense to me....
But the surgeon says the canned pumpkin will stop the loose
bowels...so I will try this first!! CD and pumpkin for super...
yummy!!!
Sandy
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62.150 | | VORTEX::TPMARY::TAMIR | DECforms Roadie | Tue Mar 17 1992 11:50 | 6 |
| You know what worked miracles for Beth?? Whiskas Conditioning Diet. Stopped
it within 24 hours. And I knew she was getting good nutrition. All the cats
loved it and it's good for them (don't tell them!!). When ever anyone gets
stink-bottom, we switch to Conditioning Diet. Works every time....
Mary
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62.151 | | MUTTON::BROWN | | Tue Mar 17 1992 13:25 | 8 |
| Canned pumpkin is one of the fillers that is sometimes used in feline
reducing diets like R/D and such. :') It does have fiber, but fiber
doesn't always equal diarrhea. Sometimes it helps to "firm" things up
too.
Hope his bum is feeling better soon.
Jo
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62.152 | fiber = soft, but not watery stool | FORTSC::WILDE | why am I not yet a dragon? | Tue Mar 17 1992 16:26 | 10 |
| > Now that I have time to think....since canned pumpkin has alot
> of fiber...wouldn't fiber cause more diahrea!! This doesn't
> make sense to me....
no, actually, more fiber will absorb the extra water in his stool and that
will equalize him out. The metamucil will also help, but is usually not
as acceptable to cats for some reason...canned pumpkin (no seasoning, etc.)
is virtually tasteless and works very well. It is also handy as a natural
laxative to human or animal..you see, it attracts water, and that "equalizes"
the stool, not too runny, not too hard.
|
62.153 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Tue Mar 17 1992 17:12 | 6 |
| Re: The metamucil will also help, but is usually not as acceptable to
cats for some reason
I'm careful to get them the unflavored kind; it might be that
some object to the citrus, etc.
|
62.154 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | | Wed Mar 18 1992 05:21 | 20 |
| Thanks for the info....it makes more sense now!! Well VG enjoyed
his CD and Canned Pumpkin last night...so we'll see what the results
are in a few days!
I hate the thought of putting him back on Metamucil right now...only
because prior to surgery he was taking so much stuff to help him
poop (mineral oil, metamucil, cat laxatives, milk of magniese) and
...he got real sick of seeing me with my syringe. Right now he
is medication free...and I would like to try and keep it that way.
But...if the canned pumpkin doesn't work...the surgeon will probably
want to see him and then I'm sure we'll discuss alternatives!! I have
to call back in one week to give him an update!
Is there anything (not harmful) that I could possibly put on his
bum to help the soreness go away! My own vet suggested medicated
baby powder.....would washing it with warm water help???
Sandy
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62.155 | our kid too | GIAMEM::TOLLES | | Wed Mar 18 1992 08:38 | 5 |
| One of my kids (Meishka) had a bowel problem. Her vet said either
a teaspoon of pumpkin pie filling, or metamucil. I thought it
odd too at the time.....
deb
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62.156 | | MUTTON::BROWN | | Wed Mar 18 1992 10:18 | 4 |
| I would put some vaseline on his bum. The skin is probably pretty raw.
Either that or something like lanolin.
Jo
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62.157 | | OXNARD::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Wed Mar 18 1992 10:49 | 12 |
| Neutrogena makes an Unscented hand cream ("used by Norwegian
fisherman") that's my resort when my hands get really chapped. It
looks like Vaseline but seems to work better. It comes in a tube.
There's also a scented version.
As to the Metamucil, I
mix a little in with my guys food (Sweetie has to always have it,
and the vet says it won't hurt the others, and since they eat out of
each others dishes this is the only way to be sure Sweetie gets it).
So, no syringes involved; none of the three has ever seemed to notice
it.
|
62.158 | | CSSE32::RAWDEN | Cheryl Graeme Rawden | Wed Mar 18 1992 12:58 | 4 |
| I have a lot of sample size Neutrogena hand cream tubes. If you are in
close enough proximity, send mail and we'll see about getting you one
or two to try. Poor guy. Guess getting him one of those doughnut
pillows wouldn't work. Might embarrass him. :^)
|
62.159 | Corona ointment is good, too... | BOOVX1::MANDILE | Feeds for all your pets' needs | Wed Mar 18 1992 13:20 | 5 |
| Bag Balm is great for chapped >whatever<, and is available
at any feed store....I use it on the horses, and on my
hands...it's great stuff....
Lynne
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62.160 | be patient - bulking agent should do it | FORTSC::WILDE | why am I not yet a dragon? | Wed Mar 18 1992 14:44 | 5 |
| I think the canned pumpkin or other natural bulker should help control the
diarrhea...and once that is cured, the soreness will fade fast. I would
hold off on medicating him until his condition improves vis a vis the
runs. He will want to lick off anything you put on his skin...and, it
will be very unpleasant until things are more regular back there.
|
62.161 | Bran might be an alternative | EMASS::SKALTSIS | Deb | Thu Mar 19 1992 15:43 | 5 |
| My vet had origonally reccommended Metamucil for Argus, but when Argus
refused to eat it, the vet said I could use substitute bran. So,
that might work, too.
Deb
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62.162 | | MAYES::MERRITT | | Fri Mar 20 1992 07:19 | 24 |
|
Thanks for all the suggestion.....right now we have been washing the
bum with warm water...and sprinkling a little bit of medicated powder
on it...but I'm so afraid to try anything new on him without the
surgeons approval. The surgeon really wasn't sure how he would treat
a sore bum either!!! If things don't look better by next Tuesday...
I might bring him for a follow-up visit just to make sure all is well!
Well the pumpkin seems to be helping somewhat...I actually saw a stool
that looked like a small cigar...and that is something we haven't seen
for months...but yet the next time he went...it was real loose. The
bad news is that VG is starting to hate the CD with the pumpkin in
it...so we have to play games to make him eat it! Don't ask...but for
some reason if he stops eating it...all I need to do is put my finger
in the food, stir it around...and he will start eating it again! Weird!!
(it won't work with a spoon...only my finger!)
I'll keep you posted...
Sandy
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62.163 | Nappy rash | UKCSSE::LMCDONALD | | Fri Mar 20 1992 08:33 | 6 |
|
This may sound a little weird and I would certainly ask the Vet about
it first; but what about using some sort of ointment for diaper rash
on the sore bum? It might work...certainly works for human babies!
LaDonna
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62.164 | | TOMLIN::ROMBERG | some assembly required... | Fri Mar 20 1992 08:44 | 6 |
| re:.163
not to be rude, snide or gross, but human babies don't lick their behinds
to clean them, so with cats you need to be doubly sure whatever you put on
their little bodies might not cause other problems. Ointment-y type things
especially are pronde to being removed as soon as they are applied.
|
62.165 | Prepartion H... ;^> | NEST::REED | Sometimes we're the windshield, sometimes the bug | Fri Mar 20 1992 10:16 | 16 |
| Sandy,
I have some homemade, all natural ointment for wounds, cuts, etc. It's
got a base of St. John's wort oil, calendula (marigold which is EXCELLENT
for the skin), comfrey, chickweed, & echinacea. I made the ointment
last summer and have used it on my horse, cats and me with great
results. I think I have an extra tin or two. I originally made it for
my *kids* first aid box. Let me know if you're interested.
Oh btw, whenever I've spoken to the vet about using herbs to alleviate
a condition, I haven't really gotten any support from them. But the
results have always been good. And the ointment was made with fresh
herbs not dried.
Roslyn
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62.166 | | 4GL::BBOOP::SCAER | Boop-Boop-a-Doop | Fri Mar 20 1992 12:09 | 6 |
| RE: .164
If there is a problem with licking ointment off you could
use an Elizabethan collar.
.....................beth
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62.167 | | PARITY::DENISE | And may the traffic be with you | Fri Mar 20 1992 14:32 | 2 |
| I have used aloe (fresh leaf right off the plant) to treat such
problems on both kitties and humans..........
|
62.168 | | MAYES::MERRITT | | Tue Mar 24 1992 06:13 | 19 |
| Well the pumpkin seems to be working GREAT...I find it totally
amazing. VG still uses the box alot...but atleast they are looking
like stools now!! Last night he sat on his butt for the first time
in a long time!!!!!
Just one point I want to make...for anyone using the Pumpkin please
make sure you by just Pumpkin and not the one with all the spices.
There is a company called ONE PIE which makes a pie filler with
ingrediants such as pumpkin, maple sugar, cory syrup, and many
spices. But yet they also make another one which the ingredients
state "pumpkin only". Both of these are found in the baking
section of your local supermarket so make sure you read the
ingrediants.
Since VG is doing so well...the surgeon says I can start weaning him
off of the CD now. Then it's back to the slow introductions to the
family...which I'm not looking forward to!
Sandy
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62.169 | Bacitracin could help | EMASS::SKALTSIS | Deb | Wed Apr 01 1992 20:07 | 8 |
| When the late AJP, Esq had his PU, he was "dripping" for a few months,
and his hind end became real raw. The vet had me put a small amount of
bacitracin on twice a day for about a week. The problem cleared up
quickly, although once the diaper rash went away, I had to make a point
of cleaning his backend with a warm cloth every time I daw him return
fromt the box.
Deb
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62.170 | Van Can Gogh!!! | MAGEE::MERRITT | | Wed Apr 08 1992 10:35 | 22 |
| Latest update on VG....he is still doing GREAT!!!!! I spoke
to the surgeon from Tufts last night and he was thrilled to know
how well the "old man" was doing and that the pumpkin helped the
diahrea.
Dr Gallagher explained to me that it has only been in the last 2-3
years that they have started to operate on colons...so they do not
have any long term effects on cats with this problem who had the
operation. He requested that I contact him very six months...so he
can keep tabs on VG's progress. He does know many cats who he operated
on 2 or 3 years ago and they are still doing fine.
Heres to many many more years for VG!!! We still didn't re-start the
introductions to the family yet because we are in the process of
introducing J.C. and Bucko. (fun fun fun!!) Everyone is getting along
fine with the exception of Barkley who is top cat and Bogie who wants to
be!!!
Sandy
Sandy
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62.171 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | | Wed May 13 1992 10:36 | 19 |
| Well my poor old man (Van Gogh) has to go back to the vets this Saturday.
It has nothing to do with his megacolon operation....but we need
to deal with this bad teeth.
The other night he was eating soft food and spit out a piece of
rotten tooth. We brought him to the vets and was told it is time
to deal with his teeth...he will need a good cleaning and possibly
some extractions. Since the old guy went through so much in the
last six months...I was the one that was procrastinating over putting
him under for his teeth. But...it's time!!
The good news is that the vet hadn't seen him for over 2 months...
and he could not believe the difference in VG. He said he looked
about 5 years younger, his coat was beautiful, and he looked like
such a happy cat!!
Sandy (nervous Mom again!!)
|
62.172 | Piece of cake this time? | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | | Wed May 13 1992 10:41 | 10 |
| Sandy,
I think after what poor VG has gone through so far with the megacolon,
this teeth thing should be a breeze for him! Please keep us posted as
to how he is doing. You're a great mom, and he's such a fighter! I'll
send along good thoughts to both of you!
Love,
Y
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62.173 | | SELL3::FAHEL | Amalthea Celebras/Silver Unicorn | Wed May 13 1992 10:54 | 4 |
| Another note to bring home to the Van Gogh Fan Club! We'll be cheering
for him.
K.C., Leigh, Alex, Rico
|
62.174 | | SPEZKO::RAWDEN | Cheryl Graeme Rawden | Wed May 13 1992 12:49 | 8 |
| Hey Sandy, maybe you could ask the vet to remove all his teeth on just
one side. Then he'd have mismatched ears as well as teeth. Now that's
a real Van Gogh. :^) I'm just kidding - you know I want to steal your
big boy away some one of these days. Can't wait to meet the ole tub. :^)
Cheryl
(who just sent Sandy a Larson cartoon of an elephant (missing one ear)
with a paint brush in hand. Sandy, what was that elephants name again?)
|
62.175 | | MAYES::MERRITT | | Thu May 14 1992 05:57 | 14 |
| Now now Cheryl...maybe if I removed all his teeth my other cats
would have a chance with him. I hate to say it...but he still
HATES all other furfaces and wants to kill!! The other night
we tried the cage again...and he plunged after Poco and then spent
the next 5 minutes trying to dig out. He lost 7 of his nail cases!!
He was so MAD at me...he wouldn't even look at me!! The next morning
he was his loving self!!
The elephant name in the Larson cartoon was Vincent Van Tantor!!!
I still have the cartoon hanging in my office..because it reminds
me of the big old man!!!!
Sandy
|
62.176 | | MAYES::MERRITT | | Mon May 18 1992 11:13 | 13 |
| Well I am happy to say that VG had his teeth work done on
Saturday and did fine!! He had one tooth extracted....and the
rest of them thoroughly cleaned and scraped. He is eating like his
little piggy self, his breath smells better, and oh what a smile!!!!
He came home to a nice new day bed for his room which gives him
more walking/playing room!! Of course...he ignored the bed and
jumped on his cat tree! What a spoiled BRAT!!
Let's hope this is it for this big guy...he deserves a very long
break from the vets!!
Sandy
|
62.177 | What a Guy! | JUPITR::JYOUNG | | Tue May 19 1992 16:08 | 11 |
| I have to commend VG -- when you consider how far he's come, what he's
put up with, and with what grace and style he's come thru all his
trials and tribulations --- and (of course) credit goes to his adoptive
"mum & dad" for all your patience and generosity.
It goes to show that love shines through, even to a hard-bitten,
rag-tag, torn-up, scrappy, scuzzy and miserable feral.
Some days I feel like a feral, and hearing VG's progress gives me hope
... please give him a pawshake for me and my two furfriends Harry and
Wumpkin!
|
62.178 | | MAYES::MERRITT | Kitty City | Mon Jun 08 1992 07:22 | 13 |
| Ha ha ha ha ha!!!! Van Gogh got in trouble...and daddy yelled
at him and threatened a spanking!!!! This might not be a big
deal for most...but this guy is so spoiled rotten he doesn't even
know what "yelling" is....until last week.
VG decided to stroll in my living room and proceeded to tear down
my beautiful living room wall paper!!! Daddy flipped...and I sat
there grinning because VG looked so shocked that someone was saying
NO you can't do that!!! The look on his face was precious!!
I guess he's really starting to feel better!!!!
Sandy
|
62.179 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Tue Aug 04 1992 06:47 | 58 |
| Well...thougth I'd give you and update on Van Gogh. Health wise...
he is doing great...a little on the chunky side...but hey he deserves
to pig out once in awhile!!!!
Well as you know..VG is still confined to his room because he
just doesn't want to live with the other cats. Of course...after
a few very bad experiences during introductions...we have staled a bit
in the past 6 months...but we feel it is time to try it again!!
We have bought Van Gogh a designer harness/leash which we plan
on using during the introductions...so we can still have some control
over him. (ha ha) The first night we put the harness/leash on...I
truly was expecting him to be Mr. Wimp and fall to the ground. But...
nope not VG...he pranced around the kitchen happy as can be!!
(he looks so cute in his flowered harness..Ernie says it's not
MACHO enough!!)
Well since he did so well...we decided let's try it with a cat!!!
The big decision...which cat should we try...we feel like we are
sending one of them to the guillotine!! Well after process of
elimination...we choose Bogie. Bogie doesn't look for fights...
but he will not turn one down if he is attacked. (poor Bogie!!)
Initially we started where Ernie was holding Bogie on the floor...
and I held Van Gogh. Believe it or not...they touched noses...
Van Gogh lapped Bogies head...and then plunged after his neck!!
I think he was only cleaning the bait before he went for the bite!!
WE then put two bowls of food next to each other...well they
would start to eat....VG would look...plunge...and Bogie would
back away!!! Bogie then started hissing...which really turned
VG on!!! WE would calm both cats...and try again. This lasted
for about 10 minutes...and then we were tired..by poor heart was
pumping fast..and we let them go their separate ways for the night!!
Last night we tried again....but Bogie wanted nothing to do with
VG at all. He just hid under the chair ...and was hissing/spitting!
Thank god I had the leash...to hold VG back!! Bogie was sitting
bait for him!! Poor Bogie got a big treat after that....we felt
bad for making him the guinia pig!!
I think the next time...we are going to try it with Barkley (TOP-CAT)
who I know will not give up his top spot!! My only fear is I know
Barkley will follow through with an all out attack...if VG pulls
his crap with him!! Barkley goes after dogs...so I'm sure he
will show no fear from VG. This could be very interesting!!!!!
I'm hoping by fall we can have a full family...but I'm starting
to lose faith. I truly think VG is a very happy cat in his
room....and I doubt he wants to be a part of the bigger family!!
But...we will keep trying...because I want him to have his
freedom of the whole house and I just dream of him sleeping
beside me at night. (with 8 other cats!!)
He's so cute.....and cuddly to humans!!! What is his problem???
Sandy
Sandy
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62.180 | You probably already know all this, but... | JULIET::CANTONI_MI | That really ghasts my flabber! | Tue Aug 04 1992 11:19 | 23 |
| Hi Sandy,
I feel kind of funny replying to your note, because you seem to be one
of the experts in this file, but...
When you calmed the cats after their minor frays, could they have seen
that as a reward for their behavior?
Also, I read in Cat Fancy that a good way to introduce cats is to let
them discover each other via the crack under a closed door, so they can
get used to each other's smell. Then replace the door with something
that they can see through but not get through like a screen door.
Until they are finally used to seeing and smelling each other. Another
way - which may not work because you have so many cats - is to start
feeding the cats in cages at opposite ends of a room gradually moving
them closer and closer. When the cats eat without any displays of
aggression, do the same thing without the cages. That is, feed them in
the same room gradually moving their dishes closer and closer together.
Anyway.... Good Luck.
Best,
Michelle
|
62.181 | May take more time
| NHASAD::BROWN_J | cat_max = current_cats + 1 | Tue Aug 04 1992 11:20 | 28 |
| Our dear departed Spats was the same way about fitting into
the family -- we had to keep him separated from everyone
else or the blood would flow. All our cats have little
arguments from time to time and we expect some fighting
whenever we introduce a new one, but this was all-out war!
Spats sounds like VG, a super-love with us but hated other
cats. I still miss the sound of his footsteps running to
greet me when I came home, he would come charging into the
room and then stand there in front of me with his arms up
in the air the way small children do -- "pick me up Mommy".
Never grumpy, always willing to be held, cuddled, and
played with. Our favorite time was when we shared my
pillow for naps and sleeping, with Spats wraped around
my head with his two front legs stretched out along my
cheek.
Put the point of all this, is that after two and one-half
years he suddenly decided that the rest of the cats weren't
leaving and he might as well make peace! Somehow they
accepted his change of heart and all was well, although
they never became close friends. At least we could have
them all together without any major fighting, and that
was good enough for us.
So hang in there, maybe VG just isn't ready yet?
Jan
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62.182 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Tue Aug 04 1992 11:38 | 24 |
| All I can claim to be is an semi-expert on Megacolon...and
having a houseful of multi cats....but as far as introducing a
very aggresive cat...I'm no expert!!! I now realize how lucky
I have been introducing all my cats together....yup there has
always been hissing/spitting and little wars. But I have never
had to deal with a cat that is out to kill!
Van Gogh has been playing "footsie" under the door for almost 9
months. ....we have also tried introductions via a cage...but VG
almost killed himself trying to get at the cats!! He truly hated
the cage because I believe he felt trapped. The screen door might
not be a bad idea....I just hope he can't get through it!!
Any time VG plunged...I also sprayed him with ice cold water...but
all he did was blink!!! After we put Bogie in the room....VG walked
around the kitchen proud as a peacock...almost like he was saying
"I WON!!" Oh what a poophead...thank god I love him so!!
The good news is that since he doesn't mind the harness/leash...I
can take him outside for some fresh air!!
Jan...Hopefully someday he will have a change in attitude as well!!!
Sandy
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62.183 | | STUDIO::PELUSO | PAINTS; color your corral | Thu Aug 06 1992 06:12 | 20 |
| Hi Sandy.....
I have a feeling I am going to experience the same thing in a few
months with Nippa. she'll be meeting her cat-in-laws over some period of
time. I don't have the advantage of any doors with cracks underneath.
And the house is so huge (three family), I wouldn't know where to start
with the screen door trick. I just hope she'll be lonely enough to
want to be friendly with the other two. If she becomes friendly,
she'll have a screened porch, huge basement, and 2 apartments to play
in, otherwise it's confined to the small apartment we'll live in. Our
other problem is she won't be allowed outside here. Too many dogs and
traffic......poor kitty.
So, please keep trying w/ VG, I feel if he can do it, nippa will be
able to as well. Sorry I don't have any suggestions, but I'm rootin'
for ya!
Michele & Nippa
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62.184 | | SANDY::FRASER | Are you unpoopular? | Thu Aug 06 1992 06:55 | 9 |
|
I hope you have better luck with VG than we've had with Smudge :^}
It's now two years since we've had to segregate her from the other
cats, primarily Jenny. She comes upstairs twice a day to eat
canned food and get fresh air from the slider, but sooner or later
she'll growl and/or hiss and/or bop someone - she's so good at this
that she puts herself back downstairs now. I certainly hope that
she has a change of heart too, as she's a wonderful cat with us.
|
62.185 | | MAYES::MERRITT | Kitty City | Thu Aug 06 1992 07:16 | 20 |
| Well who knows if this will ever work...but I will keep trying
for awhile. The funny part is VG doesn't even care which cat
it is.....I don't even think he cares...as long as it looks
furry...he'll immediately attack.
Once you open VG's door...he comes bolting out in his attack
mode...runs around the kitchen looking...and if he doesn't see
a cat he will settle down. My hubby wants to buy a stuff cat...open
VG's door...and place bets whether he'll attack it or not!! He
thinks he would...but I know VG is smarter then that!!
The real test will be with Barkley....because Barkley will not
put up with VG's bull!! VG has intimidated all my other cats...but
maybe jusy maybe Barkley will intimitate him. I can just vision
this huge bloody war in my kitchen....I'm not looking forward
to this.
I'll keep you posted.....
Sandy
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62.186 | it was sooooo funny, but it worked | PARITY::DENISE | And may the traffic be with you | Fri Aug 07 1992 15:34 | 15 |
| my cousin had an "attack" many years ago that did the same thing -
attacking whomever moved in the house. Well she got even with him
one day and when he came flying around the corner of the bed to see
who was there, she had a giant stuffed german shepard dog - welllll,
we were on the floor laughing sooooo hard! That cat stopped in midair
when he realized it was a "dog", quadraupled in size, and spun around
feet never touching the ground. My cousin followed him making barking
and growling sounds. Poor cat didn't come out from under the cabinet
for 2 hours! You had to see it to believe it, makes me laugh now to
think of it.......good thing was the cat never forgot it, and wasn't
nearly so ambitious at attacking everything that walked. And whenever
he did start doing it, she would get the "DOG" and make those sounds
and he stopped being the attack cat......
Denise
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62.187 | | MAYES::MERRITT | Kitty City | Mon Nov 16 1992 11:52 | 13 |
| My sweet, loveable Van Gogh beat the crap (literally) out of my
little 7 lb Abby this weekend. While I was at the cat show..
Ernie decided to let VG out for a romp while he thought all other
cats were outside. Well.......he heard a noice down cellar...only
to find little Abby running, peeing, and her little heart was beating
a mile a minute. Of course...VG was right on her tail!!
It took Abby about 3 hours before she came out from behind the bed!!
The poor little girl!!!
Gee...I can't wait until we start introductions again...
Sandy
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62.188 | | MAYES::MERRITT | Kitty City | Thu Feb 11 1993 06:29 | 27 |
| Medical Update to Van Gogh:
It was one year ago today that Mr. Van Gogh had his
operation for Megacolon at Tufts. Since this operation
is pretty new to the medical profession...I was asked
by the surgeon to stay in contact with him every 6 months.
The last time we spoke I asked Dr. Gallagher about all the
other cats that had this same operation and what the
progress was. The good news is that 95% of the cats are
still alive with no medical problems. The other 5% have
passed away due to other complications such as diabetes
or cancer.
So the old man is doing great...and it is truly unbeleivable
how he is so playful and still acts like a kitten. Life is
so much better then the days he use to hang around the
litterbox...grunting/groaning...trying to go to the bathroom.
It truly amazes me how cats can pull through!!!
Sandy
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62.189 | Wonderful News! | WR1FOR::RUSSELLPE_ST | | Thu Feb 11 1993 08:46 | 4 |
| What a happy anniversary this is. Congrats to both Van Gogh and Sandy.
Sandy, VG certainly was lucky to have found you and visa versa.
Steffi
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62.190 | Hooray for VG!!!! | STUDIO::COLAIANNI | I think, thereforeI think I am... | Thu Feb 11 1993 08:52 | 11 |
| Happy Anniversary from me to VG also! He's such a wonderful boy! He
gives the best headbutts of any kitty I ever met! What a character!
He spoils me rotten when I see him, becasue my kitties don't give
headbutts! :-( (Of course I've been known to bring him a special treat
now and then also)
Sandy, you're the greatest! ;-)
Love,
Yonee
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62.191 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Fri Nov 19 1993 08:50 | 12 |
| Happy Happy Rescue day to my Mr mushface Van Gogh!!! It will be
2 years ago on November 21st that Van Gogh slept in my cellar for
the very first time!!! I just finished re-reading this entire string..
and it's amazing what we went through. It also amazes me the support
I received in this file during that time....thank god I had you
there with me!!!
Many more happy healthy and hearty years for Van Gogh!!! I still
pray that someday he will get along with my other furfaces...but
he still wants to eat them alive!!!
Sandy
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62.192 | | JULIET::RUSSELLPE_ST | | Fri Nov 19 1993 09:34 | 9 |
| Happy Rescue day, Van Gogh. You are certainly a very lucky and a very
smart cat to find Sandy. I don't think anyone else would have gone
through all that for you. Give Sandy some head butts and kittie
kisses. And try to tolerate the other cats.
Hugs from me. I'm so happy that I got to meet you and pat you and see
your cute little ear.
Steffi
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62.193 | VG - Teeth problems | MAYES::MERRITT | Kitty City | Mon Jun 06 1994 13:12 | 12 |
| My poor old man Van Gogh has a vet visit this afternoon because
I believe his teeth are bothering him. The poor baby hasn't eaten
anything in two days...and he is just walking around moping and looking
very depressed. It breaks my heart because he is alway such a Happy
kitty and he sure is a Momma's boy!!
Two years ago when he went through his major operation to remove his
intestines, Tufts told me he had very bad teeth. My guess is...he will
have to have some (if not all) of his teeth removed. My poor baby...
and my poor wallet...it's been a rough spring for kitty vet bills!!
Sandy
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62.194 | do I ever know what you need about vet bill$ | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Mon Jun 06 1994 13:31 | 13 |
| Sandy,
I know what you have been going through. Eirene had that horrible neck
leison on her tooth and couldn't eat. Baby food seemed to do the trick,
though it did get expensive. Also, sprinkling the food with water then
heating it in the microwave for 45 seconds to soften it helped.
On the othe hand, 2 years ago Jimmy (who was about 13 at the time) had
all four broken incisers removed; he came through it fine and it
started him eating right away. It made a big difference.
Good luck, and hug VG,
THE FIRM and Deb
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62.195 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Tue Jun 07 1994 06:13 | 23 |
| Thanks Deb....
We brought him to the vets last night and my poor baby has over
a 103 tempature. They believe it could be his teeth causing
an infection but they don't want to touch his teeth until we can
get rid of the infection. His teeth need a good cleaning and he will
most likely have to have a few pulled because they are bad. He also
has a yeast infection in his ear! So...he came home and he is on
Baytril and Panalog for his ears. We are to call the vet back on
Friday or sooner if need be.
VG would not eat anything....he is use to having a jar of baby food
every night (his favorite) but he wouldn't even touch that. The
only thing he was doing was drinking water and Alpo milk.
The good news is..this morning he did lap a little bit of wet food
and he appeared in better spirits, so hopefully by tonight he'll
be eating better. You should have saw him at the vets, even if
he is sick he was ready to attack the 7 dogs in the waiting room...
this guy has NO fear and HATES all 4 legged creatures!!
Sandy
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62.196 | | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Tue Jun 07 1994 08:59 | 14 |
| Poor kitty!
well, Jimmy was on antibiotics for about a week before he had his 4
canine teeth pulled. I don't know if it was just a precaution or if he
had an infection his mouth did small awful and he wasn't eating his
usual amount). I do remember that the antibiotics seemed to perk up his
appitite, so I it is possible that he was a bit under the weather. I
remember that the vet said that considering how long he was feral it
was amazign that he was in as good shape as he was.
good luck,
Deb
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62.197 | must be the feline fang fungus | LEZAH::BROWN | On [real]time or else... | Wed Jun 08 1994 11:00 | 18 |
|
We went through a time with Punkinhead (orange tabby we got through
Pat Murphy) where we had trouble getting him to eat. We tried this
and that and made some vet visits. They discovered that the
problem was a lesion on one of his lower fangs, below the gum line,
so it couldn't be seen. Occasionally these can cause infections
before you get a chance to figure out they're there. Once the
tooth was out, his appetite took off.
Jennifurr (aka Jennifurr the Mad, or the Queen B***h) also had
some problems with teeth -- several of hers actually broke off
at or below the gum line. Our vet's reaction was, "Oh wonderful.
the killer cat with tooth problems!" Once again, her appetite
bounced right back when the teeth were removed.
Good luck, Sandy!
Ron
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62.198 | | MAYES::MERRITT | Kitty City | Wed Jun 08 1994 11:27 | 15 |
| hmmmm..I do remember Jennifur; as a matter of fact she reminds
me of Van Gogh in many ways. They are the same exact colors,
they look similar..and they both had shitty attitudes towards
other cats!!!
I know VG will need some work on his teeth because when the vet
opened his mouth...she even chipped a piece of tooth off. Poor
VG...but maybe if he has his teeth removed I might be able to
trust him around my other furfaces!!! For some reason...I doubt
that will happen...he still has razor sharp claws!!!
He is now eating a little bit...but he's still not eating nor acting
like himself!!
Sandy
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62.199 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Wed Jun 15 1994 07:20 | 7 |
| Well the antibiotics have kicked in and Van Gogh is again
eating and seems to be fine, but the poor guy goes in for teeth
cleaning/removal tomorrow!! Hopefully he will feel alot better
once this is done!
Sandy (who will be a worrywart tomorrow!!)
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62.200 | | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Wed Jun 15 1994 09:40 | 2 |
| Good luck.
Deb and THE FIRM
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62.201 | Dentures??? | STOWOA::FALLON | Moonsta Cattery | Thu Jun 16 1994 10:31 | 5 |
| Sandy,
Just think how happy he will be when he can give "gummy" smiles
to everyone!! He will be much more comfortable for sure.
Kitty thoughts
Karen
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62.202 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Thu Jun 16 1994 12:45 | 6 |
| Well my big boy, Van Gogh made it through the surgery fine and we
can pick him up tonight between 5:00 - 7:00. At this time I still
don't know how many teeth they had to pull...but I'm sure he'll be
happy to be back home even if he is toothless!!
Sandy
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62.203 | that funny little smile | LEZAH::BROWN | On [real]time or else... | Thu Jun 16 1994 15:07 | 9 |
|
Good for Van Gogh. It's amazing how well cats and dogs can get
along with missing teeth. Of course, the drool factor increases
by about 10 times. Jennifurr could produce drool equivalent to
about 1.2 Saint Bernards...
I'm glad Van Gogh came through it OK.
Ron
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62.204 | | MAGEE::MERRITT | Kitty City | Fri Jun 17 1994 05:52 | 19 |
| It's amazing how they bounce right back. Van Gogh came home last
night after a thorough cleaning/polishing and having 7 teeth removed.
They said that his canine teeth probably will have to come out at
a later time, but they were so sturdy that when they tried to pull
them they were afraid they would break his jaw, so they opted to
leave them in.
They told me to offer him soft food,,,but they doubted he would eat
at all because his mouth would be so sore!! Well it took about 2
seconds for VG to come crying for food and he gobbled down a bit!
I didn't want to give him to much last night...but this morning he
ate like a pig!!
Hopefully he will be back to normal again....
Sandy
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62.205 | | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Fri Jun 17 1994 06:25 | 3 |
| Glad to hear that VG did so well!
Deb and THE FIRM
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62.206 | VG Update | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Wed Feb 08 1995 05:10 | 10 |
| Believe it or not...as of February 11th it will be three years
since Van Gogh's major intestine operation at Tufts for Megacolon.
Amazing...how well he pulled through and how he has had no other
problems related to his operation. Of course he has had teeth
problems...but you expect that from an old man!!
Stay healthy VG and may you live happy and healthy for many more
years to come!!!
Sandy
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62.207 | | TAPE::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Wed Feb 08 1995 06:13 | 4 |
| Hip hip hooray for Van Gogh and Sandy!! My "kids" send your
"kids" heartfelt congratulations!
- Andrea
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62.208 | | LJSRV2::FALLON | | Wed Feb 08 1995 09:30 | 5 |
| Sandy,
I am amazed that you remember the date! I am awful when it comes
to things like that. But I am glad that he is still doing well
and the ending continues to be a happy one.
Karen
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62.209 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Wed Feb 08 1995 09:37 | 6 |
| I have no memory....but with all my cats I do mark all the
special events on a calendar!! This calendar also has all
their rescue days, estimated age, as well as the year we took
them in!!!
Sandy
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62.210 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Thu Nov 09 1995 09:28 | 25 |
| Van Gogh's rescue day is November 20th...so he has been with
us for just about 4 years. As of February it will be 4 years
since his major operation for Megacolon and he has not had
any problem with that and has lived a VERY happy and healthy
life.
As of last Saturday...my poor baby was diagnosed with diabetes!!
His initial reading was 465...which I believe the normal is
between 75 and 150. He spent Monday and Tuesday at the vets
being regulated....and the vets were truly amazed how fast
they did regulate him. He is now home with us and is
receiving 2 units of insulin a day. So far he is doing fine
and he is acting very normal!!
This poor guy....has been through alot in life and I just find
it amazing that he continues to be one of the happiest kitties
alive!!!!
If it wasn't for this notesfile...I'm sure I would have been
in total panic mode when I heard the diagnose...BUT I do
know there are many kitties in this file who have been taking
insulin for many years and are still very healthy!!!!
Sandy
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62.211 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Mon May 13 1996 09:49 | 33 |
| I need some thoughts.....
As you might or might not be aware, Van Gogh had gone through
major surgery about 5 years ago to have 80% of his intestines
removed due to Megacolon. He has had NO problems since
the operation.
Back in November...he was then diagnosed with Diabetes and since
that time we have gone through many problems trying to get
his diabetes regulated. At the current time we feel his sugar
is regulated and his reading was about 137 on Friday.
Van Gogh spent alot of time at the vets last week...and had
multiple test done to see if they could find out what was
wrong. He has my vets completely stumped on this one....
The symptoms he was displaying were he just nibbled at food...
was dehydrated and getting lethargic. The battery of test they
did... showed he was completely dehydrated and also anemic.
His sugar was okay....negative on thyroid problems...a
complete blood panel was pretty normal with
an exception of a few readings that were a little high...a
full body Xray showed no blockage....no fever...no infections.
At the current time...they feel it might be pancreatitis which
is sometimes a problem for diabetic cats and is not easy to
diagnose. Has anyone with a diabetic cat ever show any
similar symptoms...but can't pin point the problem.
Your thoughts and prayers are needed once again.
Sandy
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62.212 | | TAPE::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Mon May 13 1996 10:16 | 18 |
| Hmmm ...
Loki is no longer diabetic, but I did have to take him in a couple
of months ago. He had a temp, no appetite and looked like he had lost
weight. They never found out what it was, but he is now fighting
anemia. Apparently he has kidney damage, although light. The kidneys
produce a hormone which tells the bone marrow to produce blood, and
they aren't doing their job so the bone marrow, although undamaged,
isn't being told to produce enough blood cells.
Could this be the cause of Van Gogh's anemia? I don't know, but
you might want to check with your vet.
Good vibes are being sent to Van Gogh and you and your family ...
here's hoping for a speedy recovery!
- Andrea
Bigfoot, Loki & Midnight
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62.213 | | CATMAX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Mon May 13 1996 10:50 | 17 |
| Poor Van Gogh!
if it IS pancreatitis, make sure that the cat gets IV antibiotics, not
oral, as the cat will get sick to it's stomach. Alex had pancreatitis,
and I really wish I'd have pushed for IV antibiotics sooner; I'd
probably still have her today.
What Andrea said about the kidney relationship to anemia is correct.
You know about the tie in between anemia and appitite. There is a
synthetic hormone that can be given, but it is very expensive.
(Erythropotien). There is some discussion about it in the note about
my late cat Eirene.
We will be sending good thots your way
Deb
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62.214 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Mon May 13 1996 11:31 | 3 |
| Sandy, until they sort out what's what, perhaps an appetite
stimulant would help?
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62.215 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Mon May 13 1996 12:30 | 7 |
| Van Gogh is very dehydrated...so we are giving him 100 cc
twice a day. It really seems that once he gets the fluid
in him...his appetite picks up a little.
Thanks for the good thoughts and ideas...I'll keep you posted.
Sandy M
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62.216 | | CATMAX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Fri May 17 1996 12:11 | 6 |
| Sandy,
How is he doing?
Deb
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62.217 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Fri May 17 1996 13:44 | 15 |
| Thanks for asking... As of last Tuesday night his appetite
started to come back and now he is eating alot better and
acting normal. He's starting to make a comeback!!!!! To be
on the safe side...I'm going to continue to give him fluids
for awhile.
BUT...because he wasn't eating we had to reduce his insulin...
so now he's drinking alot of water and peeing alot which tells
me is sugar is probably a bit high again. I have a call into
my vet asking her if I should put him back on his original
insulin intake since he is eating good.
Thank god I love this guy dearly...because he drives us crazy!!
Sandy
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62.218 | Update...5 years ago... | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Wed Feb 19 1997 08:40 | 14 |
| Amazing...it has been 5 years since Van Gogh's major operation
for Megacolon. The amazing part is Van Gogh has had many
other major problems such as diabetic and most of his teeth
removed...but he has NEVER had any other problems related
to his colon.
I would strongly recommend that people consider this operation
(removal of 80% of their intestines) for the treatment of
Megacolon which cannot be treated by medication. Considering
Van Gogh was on his deathbed 5 years ago...and even though he
is an old man...he has had a GREAT 5 years with us and hopefully
he'll have many many many many more!!!
Sandy and Van Gogh
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