Conference misery::abc_soaps

    KT
    
    if you are pressed for time and can only read the updates try doing 
    dir 14.(whatever the last number you read)-last.  This will give you
    all the titles and you can select the ones that say update.  Please
    don't ask us to give up the wonderful repore and friendships this file
    has helped us find.
    
    /red

The "hellos", "how-are-ya's" and side comments are what makes AMC notes file
fun and like one big happy family.  Scan the titles for "Update" if you want
to cut out the rest of the stuff. (^%

KK

    I'll have to agree with everyone..... That's what's fun about this
    file!!
    We had a discussion some time back and we are making sure that we label
    the notes correctly, you were probably inaware of this so just look for
    the notation at the top of the screen. Happy Reading!!
    
    Beccy 8*)
    

    We do not want to encourage *anyone* to compete for the largest number
    of replies in any given day.  This is one of the things that helped
    bring down the old conference.
    
    Jo (with her moderator hat on for just a moment)

       i'm a regular reader and i really like reading this.and thank you
    guys.and also just in case you care to know,the nbc's days of our lives
    is been move an hour earlier[2:00-3:00]same as g.h. and santa barbara
    is now 1:00-2:00.as far as i know dools got a higher ratings than g.h.
    so more likely having the same time slot will hurt more g.h. ratings.
    i watch both of the show so i guess,i just have to keep on switching
    the channel.
    
                                               another silent noter/

    
    
    My $.02:
    
    We have, in the past, received complaints of the .0 nature.  But, it is
    MY opinion, and mine alone, that if this situation really bothers
    someone, they have a choice...to read or not to read.  As far as I know
    this file has never been mandatory.  %^)
    
    I personally like the comraderary (sp), friendship, and networking
    that goes on in this file.  The "regulars" are a great bunch of people
    and I for one have gained more system knowledge from the people in this
    file than I have at training.  I write "off-line" to a lot of people
    from this file, but every once in a while I forget to do that and just
    do a "blurb" in the file.  If this is wrong, I apologize, but...this is
    a "fun" file, it has nothing to do with anything.
    
    
    We laugh together, we cry together, we help each other when someone
    needs it.  If all that means is that I have to "cruise" thru a few
    extra notes, I'll GLADLY take it!
    
    There have been a lot of suggestions on how to avoid have to read each
    note for those who chose not to read each one.
    
    Sorry to go on and on.....
    
    
    		BUT----I LOVE THIS FILE!!!!!!!!
                AND.......I LOVE IT'S PEOPLE!!!!
    
    
    
    	and THAT'S THE TRUTH!
    
    Jackie

    I LOVE YOU, TOO, JACKIE!!!
    
    Heck, I'm gonna say it! This is a DISCUSSION FORUM! It's not a network
    for NON VIEWERS to go into & get their daily fix of the soap they
    follow. :*) :*) :*) I'm not saying this in a rude tone, I just think
    the point should be made. While it is perfectly fine & ENCOURRAGED that
    non-viewers get the scoop from those of us fortunate enough to WATCH
    the show, it is still a FORUM in which we can go in & discuss the show
    that we watch. W/O offending anyone I'd like to point out that this
    isn't a SERVICE that is being provided for people who just want the 
    facts & nothing else.
    
    I mean, think of how boring this file would be to the people who watch
    everyday if we could ONLY update & we couldn't discuss how we feel
    about certain things, or even get off the subject of the show from time
    to time. We'd be reading things we already know & that wouldn't make
    the file very interesting to the daily viewers. 
    
    I hope that we can all remain as one bigg happy family & not be
    offended by words that may seem harsher than they were intended.
    It really makes a difference when you're READING the way someone feels,
    as opposed to listening to them speak. The spoken word comes across
    much gentler than the written word. I LOVE THE CONTRIBUTORS TO THIS
    FILE TOO, AND HOPE EVERYONE CONTINUES to be as friendly, supportive
    and creative as you always were!!!
    
    Love,
    Bonnie

    
    Bonnie,  I total agree with the comment 
    
    "This is not a servie we provide"  very well put.  Hey, maybe I
    should go into my own business and [[sell]] my updates for the non
    watchers :<)
    
    Louisa

    I happen to agree with the original noter.  When you only have 10
    minutes for a break and want to find out about what really happened
    in an update, you can't afford to read through 30 hellos and such.
    I think you could be more accomodating to those who don't have the
    luxury of sitting around and reading notes all day.
    
    Maybe you could have just an update file and also a "gossip file"
    seperately?  I don't see how this could hurt anyone...with the state
    that the company is in now and the layoffs and such, people are being
    watched.  I think it would be common curtisy (sp?)...and no hard
    feelings on either side.
    
    think about it...
    
    

    We (the moderators) have asked the participants in this file to
    make sure they title their notes when they have an update.  We
    have not asked them to discontinue all chatter.  This notefile
    is for discussions regarding the soaps on ABC as well as a few
    evening soaps with no other home.  Participants are free to 
    *discuss* anything about the soaps as long as they are not bashing
    other participants or breaking any Digital policies.
    
    I agree, it sometimes gets hard to find the actual updates or
    discussions tucked into some of the chattier notes but we are not
    going to ask everyone to cease friendly discussions.  If we create
    a topic for updates and a topic for gossip I can almost guarantee
    you we will have gossip and chatter in both topics.
    
    If you come up on a note that appears to be chatter and you don't 
    want to read it, just type in the number of the next note in the 
    topic and read it instead, or type NEXT UNSEEN to go to whatever
    the next unseen note is.
    
    Another alternative is to do a directory of the remaining notes in
    that topic and pick out the updates that you want to read.  To do this
    type the following at the NOTES> prompt.
    
       		DIR xx.xxxx-xx.*     (x's = topic/note numbers)
    
    This will print a list of the remaining replies on your screen and you
    should be able to read the titles and pick out the updates to read.
    
    Okay, everyone, remember to title your updates so the folks using this 
    method to find just the updates will be able to locate them easily.
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS

    
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    to .13...no, it isn't mandetory, but like I said, there are people out
    there with only ten minute breaks that have to get back to work...why
    should they be deprived of the updates because you have to ask dumb 
    questions about hair and such...there must have been 12 replies about
    hayley's hair today...it's a waste of space and time.  Have some more
    consideration for those that do have to work...I noticed there is a 
    gossip note now, someone had the curtesy to start...thank you to that 
    someone.  
    
    

    I have deleted the Gossip topic from the file.  The moderators have 
    given an explanation for why we will not have a separte gossip topic and
    separate update topic.  If you have limited time to read notes, then
    use the procedures outlined in previous replies to find the replies
    notated with the "update" flag.  Those noters who do updates, please
    continue to flag them by putting update in the title.  If the
    moderators find an update that does not have update in the title, we 
    will add that to the title.
    
    The ABC_Soaps conference was designed to be a forum for discussing all
    aspects of the ABC_Soaps.  We do allow for individual personalities,
    and stream-of-consciousness noting.  We do not intend to change the
    focus or scope of this conference at this time.
    
    Several of the replies in this topic seem to indicate that some of us
    have nothing better to do than note.  That is not the case.  Notes can
    be accessed after hours if time is an issue.
    
    Jo (ABC_Soaps moderator)
    
    

    The people accessing ABC_SOAPS all "have to work".  The majority of
    time they access this note before work, at breaks, at lunch, and after
    work.  On occasion, access in made while trying to "clear the head"
    during (or after) a particularly busy day.
    
    Let stop these snide comments about "some people having to work"

    They are not meant to be snide remarks...I didn't mean to offend
    anyone.  I, too, have enjoyed this file for a long time, but as I've
    mentioned before, some people don't have the luxury to use their breaks
    to read notes.  They run errands or such...I didn't mean that none of
    you work, not by a long shot.  Forgive me if I've offended anyone, I
    didn't mean to.  But most people use their breaks to eat lunch or go 
    outside for a deserved walk to clear the cobwebs...the few minutes left
    over in their breaks are used to find updates.  Now that they know how
    to do a dir. things will be easier.  These notes weren't meant for
    bickering.  I was just trying to back a fellow noter....it's funny,
    though, I received some mail backing me and the other noter.  
    
    

    I have a comment....
    
    I wish that people who are primarily read only....make that all noters
    would refrain from making comments on the frequency someone notes
    especially to a noters boss!!!!!  If you feel that someone could not
    possibly be holding down a job and writing as much as they do, try
    talking/writing to that person, BUT DO NOT MAKE A COMMENT TO THAT
    PERSONS BOSS SAYING SO AND SO MUST NOT BEING DOING ANY WORK, HE/SHE IS
    ALWAYS IN NOTES!!!!  Not only is it none of your business, it could be
    damaging to the employee!!!
    
    'nough said,
    
    /red
    
    

    And anyway, how could someone possibly complain about a noters
    frequency unless they are in notes as often or even MORE often them-
    selves?
    
    Bonnie

    Re:  Virginia's note in the AMC topic about DOOL
    
    I think if you look in the "system questions" topic (don't remember the
    topic number) in DOOL you'll see the moderator's explanation of why/
    what she did with the notes in question.  I remember seeing her note
    as I was skimming through the file.
    
    Jan