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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
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1463.0. "Van Der Graaf Generator (!)" by LESLIE::LESLIE (Andy ��� Leslie, VMS CSSE/Europe) Sat Jan 07 1989 05:27

    For the *old* people here - I just noticed that the Van Der Graaf
    Generator albums: Pawn Hearts, First Edition and Second Edition, are
    now availabnle on CD from Virgin.
    
    There must be hope for Stackridge yet! :-)
    
    Andy
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1463.1Gee, I should have picked-up Pawn Hearts....DDIF::EIRIKURHallgr�msson, CDA Product ManagerTue Jan 10 1989 09:3515
    And I have recently read that there is a new Hammil/Banton
    collaboration.  I take it that the First/Second Edition albums are the
    retrospective?  I have that as originally released on Charisma.  (I
    always thought that Charisma's mad hatter at the teaparty logo was
    appropriate!)
    
    I want "H to He, who am the only one" on CD.
    
    It sounds like Virgin is expanding their operations.  I recently read
    on Usenet that they will be distributing EG, and Editions EG in the US.
    This is good news, because the previous distributor (JEM) is out of
    business.
    
    	Eirikur
    
1463.2EG = Expensive GoodsAQUA::ROSTJazz isn't dead, it just smells funnyTue Jan 10 1989 12:374
    
    Re: .1
    
    Maybe the Crimson CDs will come down in price, then.
1463.3ROCK::GRONOWSKITue Jan 10 1989 13:115
    
    Kind of off the subject, but can anyone tell me what the quality
    of sound is on the King Crimson and VDGG CDs.  I've heard that the
    sound quality on the King Crimson CDs is not very good.  Is this
    true?
1463.4LESLIE::LESLIEAndy ��� Leslie, VMS CSSE/EuropeTue Jan 10 1989 13:251
    The "best of" has great sound quality.
1463.5Pro and Con on "Court of the Crimson King"AQUA::ROSTJazz isn't dead, it just smells funnyTue Jan 10 1989 13:5216
    
    I have an EG copy of the first Crimson album.  There is also a Polydor
    version which I have not heard.  The EG disk is quite hissy, and
    some rumble distortion is audible on "Moonchild".  I assume that
    they used the same master as for the "audiophile" vinyl that EG
    issued in the early 80s.  
    
    It still is cleaner than the Atlantic LP but I was surprised at how
    raw it sounded, particularly in comparison to some Beatle CDs and
    jazz recordings of the 1950s which sound very clean and hiss-free.

    I still plan to buy more Crimson CDs but actually the news that
    Virgin will take over EG makes me want to wait, perhaps they will
    do new masters.  
    
    
1463.6Polydor "Crimson King" is no betterOWSLEY::ABBOTGypsy of a strange and distant timeWed Jan 11 1989 09:3311
I have the Polydor version of the first Crimson album, and it too is
hissy. I haven't noticed the distortion in "Moonchild", and I've
certainly listened to it enough times since 1984.

I was hoping they found a better master for the EG version. Maybe Virgin
will clean it up, unless the master is that bad.

I was wondering what happened to Jem. Just as they started reissuing
the old Eno albums.

Scott
1463.7Still happy with the discCANDY::CASTIGLIONEHeavy Metal ThunderWed Jan 11 1989 12:074
    My Polydor is fine, but then again, comparing it to an orginal album
    I've had for about 15 years or longer, anything sounds good.
    
    Stig
1463.8More varient Crimson discs, New VDGG title.DDIF::EIRIKURHallgr�msson, CDA Product ManagerWed Jan 11 1989 14:5417
    I've got the Warner (same as Polydor?) edition of "In the Court..." 
    The major thing that I notice is how compressed everything is, drums
    especially.  I was hoping that the EG versions were better.  You've got
    to remember that this stuff was recorded in 1968-9 on what was probably
    not state-of-the-art equipment at that time.  Still, I would be very
    interested in remastered versions.
    
    I second the opinion of the good sound on the VDGG compilation.
    
    There is a strange, strange "new" VDGG called "Now and Then."  On some
    little label in the UK.  It consists of "found" material from 1970-era
    sessions at a small studio, with some tracks overdubbed at a reunion
    session especially for this album.  If only the liner notes didn't seem
    to reflect material (changed titles?) that isn't on the CD!!!
    
    		Eirikur