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Title:Welcome to the CD Notes Conference
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1434.0. "Pickwick discussions." by COOKIE::ROLLOW (The thing dreams are made of.) Wed Dec 14 1988 17:22

	This note should be used for general discussions of the 
	Pickwick label.
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1434.1Moved from 1394.11COOKIE::ROLLOWThe thing dreams are made of.Wed Dec 14 1988 17:2515
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AYOV27::KIRKPATRICK                                  10 lines  28-NOV-1988 01:31
                          -< a third version of G.H. >-
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    Just to further confuse.
    
    The two G.Hits versions I wrote of earlier had 20 tracks per, and
    the previous notes refer to a 16 track CD.
    
    A third CD, issued by Pickwick, with 16 tracks is also a G.Hits. 
    
    Where does Pickwick fit in ? 
    
    I.K.
1434.2COOKIE::ROLLOWThe thing dreams are made of.Wed Dec 14 1988 17:2520
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VEEJAY::ECTOR "Quayle/Nixon? Man, are we in trouble" 17 lines  28-NOV-1988 13:18
                       -< CBS by any other name = cheap >-
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    Pickwick is/was/used to be CBS's budget_
    					    budget line (that is not
    a misprint). In the 70's CBS used PICKWICK as a method to reissue
    lp's of artists, less 2 to 4 tracks from the original lp. Sort of
    a chintzy way to get a return on their initial investment. I'm
    surprised to see any CD's on this label, unless it's a new label
    which purchases release rights for outdated material. I'd guess
    it's CBS, back to their old cheap tricks, tho'. I'd question the
    source music used for any CD on this label as being "best available"
    or not....leaning heavily towards the "not." If you listen to music
    through headphones, you'd be better off to avoid Pickwick !
    
    				The Cruiser
    
    
1434.3COOKIE::ROLLOWThe thing dreams are made of.Wed Dec 14 1988 17:2719
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DELNI::TRUSLOW                                       14 lines   5-DEC-1988 11:44
                      -< Could Pickwick=Capitol Records? >-
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    I may be misremembering here, but I think that the budget
                                                             -budget
    label for CBS was called "Crossroads," and that the Pickwick label
    was the budget (etc.) label for Capitol Records. I could almost
    swear that I have a "rechannelled for stereo" Pickwick recording
    of Mendelssohn's violin concerto with the Bruch on the other side,
    Nathan Milstein playing the violin, and that it was something that
    had once been on Capitol back in the very early days of stereo when
    the Hollywood Bowl and Leonard Pennario were the big classical
    recording greats on Capitol Records. (There was also a Victoria
    de los Angeles "Carmen" and a Leopold Stokowski "Verkl�rte Nacht"
    as well as the debut recording of Maurizio Pollini playing a Chopin
    concerto in the Capitol classical repertoire as well.)
    
1434.4COOKIE::ROLLOWThe thing dreams are made of.Wed Dec 14 1988 17:285
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LESLIE::LESLIE "Andy ��� Leslie, VMS CSSE, Europe."    1 line   5-DEC-1988 13:19
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    Pickwick in the UK is the El Cheapo Woolworths brand.
1434.5COOKIE::ROLLOWThe thing dreams are made of.Wed Dec 14 1988 17:2926
AYOV29::KIRKPATRICK                                  22 lines   7-DEC-1988 01:14
                         -< PICKWICK ARE NOT SO NASTY >-
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    I seem to remember PICKWICK as the cheap-and-nasty CBS label, but
    things seem to have changed. The CDs I looked at were originally
    recorded by MCA and WEA.
    
    PICKWICK is not the cheap Woolworth label in the UK (maybe Warwick ?). 
    
    I've just purchased (a little nervously) "VERY BEST OF BREAD" on
    PICKWICK, and the quality is very good. Cost 5.99 pounds.
    I've also since listened to "VERY BEST OF THE EVERLY BROTHERS",
    which isn't, but the quality is good.   
    
    I've also got a classical sampler issued by IMP, who have gained
    a reputation for very high quality DDD classical issues, and I 
    think IMP are part of PICKWICK.
    
    So where does this leave us ?
    
    I'd certainly pay 5.99 pounds rather than 11.99 pounds for sixteen
    tracks rather than twenty.
                     
    Ian K.
    
1434.6COOKIE::ROLLOWThe thing dreams are made of.Wed Dec 14 1988 17:2918
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DELNI::TRUSLOW                                       13 lines  12-DEC-1988 11:19
                      -< What Pickwick Says About Itself >-
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    I realize that this is taking us off on a tangent from CDs, but
    I checked my Pickwick recording over the weekend (Mendelssohn's
    violin concerto and the Bruch violin concerto no. 1 with Nathan
    Milstein and Steinberg conducting the Pittsburgh Symphony) -- and
    I was partly right: the record was released "by arrangement with
    Capitol Records," but there's a fuller explanation inside a box
    on the back cover. Pickwick claims to be an independent company
    that specializes in restoring to the market out-of-print recordings
    from a variety of labels. So it's perfectly possible that CBS releases
    have reappeared on Pickwick. It's also possible that CBS bought
    Pickwick after I purchased those concertos (seems to me I bought
    that record in 1967). So -- back to CDs now...
    
1434.7COOKIE::ROLLOWThe thing dreams are made of.Wed Dec 14 1988 17:3030
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MQOFS::LEDOUX "Reserved for Future Use"              25 lines  14-DEC-1988 12:10
                           -< Pickwick <> quality. >-
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    Funny you mentioned Pickwick today,  I just got burned with them.
    I bought a very much budget CD ($4.99) (Can it get more budget 
    than that?) of a ADD recording of Grieg with the Vienna Symph.
    It's on Allegretto II label, from the MOSS music group and it
    says " A division on Pickwick Music Group inc."  
       Anyway, what's on the CD is (I think) Nana Mouskouri(?)
    singing in german or flemish(?).  The band playing seems Greek
    but it's pop music from Old Europe somewhere.
    
      I bought "that" in Boston and live in MTL, So, I can't return
    it.  That's one small frisbee at $4.99 .  I am planning to use
    the CD as a test CD causing scratches and finger prints etc..
    on purpose.
    Anyway, Pickwick, Moss music and Allegretto cannot count me
    as a customer anymore. 
    
    BTW, I bought on the same label Bach, Harpsicord music.  It
         was Harpsicord, but the RECORDING (not the CD) skip or
         make a noise a little similar as a skip, but not a skip.
         The noise is like tape defect at the recording session. 
         The interpretation is not really worth mentioning either.
    
    So much about Pickwick.
    
    Vince.