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Yes, I just popped it in my CD player a few minutes ago. True, the
sound is flawless. I differ with your opinion of seeing them live - 
they were flawless when I saw them live (last April). What's important
is that you get the long jams that you don't get on the studio recordings,
like on "Money".

If only you could get a round video of the films they showed, synched
with the music. They have a concert vedeo in the works, but I expect
it will be the MTV many-camera-angles-per-second type, not just a fixed
camera pointed to the stage (like Talking Heads "Stop Making Sense").
When I saw them, I was mesmerized by the whole visual experience going
on around me - films, lasers, giant pigs, kaleidoscopic lights, strange
computerized things on the stage, etc. The band was just a small part
of the whole scene. It would be impossible to do a satisfactory job
with the video.

Unfortunately the CD was recorded last August, at the end of the tour,
when David Gilmour's voice was rather worn out.

Scott

BTW, it's a full digital recording.

    	Well, you've convinced me.  I think I'll call in another order
    from Noteworthy next week and get it. BTW, their price is $21.48
    + S&H.
    
    					Brad Karrfalt
    

    I think you can still get it at Strawberries on sale for $22.99.

Re: .0
>    ...you don't have the "rawness"
>    that comes with a live performance.  Also, there is no communication
>    with the audience between songs which usually makes a live album
>    so unique and worthwhile to have.
    
I agree completely. That's why I've been recording and collecting
concert tapes for the last 14 years. In general, live albums
(particularly CDs) have excellent sound quality but are edited,
overdubbed, and compressed, and thus fail to capture the unique
"electricity" of a real concert. 

One of the best live recordings I've ever heard is Pink Floyd at
Boston Garden, 6/18/75. The quad sound system that they used that tour
more than made up for the lousy acoustics in the Garden. The set list
(not necessarily in concert order) was: 

	Raving and drooling (later became "Sheep")
	You gotta be crazy (later became "Dogs")
	Shine on you crazy diamond ->
	Have a cigar ->
	Shine on you crazy diamond
	Dark side of the moon (the whole thing)
	Echoes

    Excellent album. I bought it on Saturday and at once made a tape for
    the car. It's currently playing on my Pioneer, yes it's neat with the
    multiplay, again. The quality is absolutely astounding for a live
    recording, even the everpresent 60Hz hum is absent. (How's that for a
    sentence?).
    Especially the cuts with a really low bass comes out incredibly clean.

    A steal for $23.99 at Strawberries.

    Peter

    Note 1417.0 commented that there is no communication with the audience
    between songs. Does this mean that the tracks are faded out, and
    faded in.
    
    I.K.

    
        No, none of the tracks are faded out. Its just that Pink
    Floyd is such a polished and prefessional band its not their
    style to be interrupting their show with idle chatter, I like
    it that way with this band.
                                   mike
    

This may or may not belong here, but the "missing" Syd Barrett album
is out on CD. It's an import, on Harvest. Rockit Records in Nashua has
it for $16.99.

Re: live album
No, there isn't much stage chatter at a Pink Floyd show. As I recall,
just a few things like "good evening", and introducing the band members.
No great loss not having it on CD. They did cut a few songs out of the
show - Welcome to the Machine, A New Machine ("I have always been here..."),
maybe a few others. They did the entire new album in the show (Foxboro
5-6-88). They were also doing Echoes in the earlier shows.

Scott

    
    Re: .8
    
    Please to describe the "missing" Syd album.
    
    

    RE: .7
    
    I DISAGREE!!  On the soundtrack "The Song Remains the Same", Led
    Zeppelin does a couple of verbal song introductions (my favorite is "This
    is a song of hope...", introducing "Stairway to Heaven"). 
    
    I would hardly call them an unprofessional or unpolished band.
    
    Ken
    

    
    
      I don't recall accusing LZ of unprofessionalism.
    

I don't recall the name of Syd's "new" album, but it was a one-word
title (like "Snail" or something), has a black and white photo of him
on the cover. It's not a new recording - I believe it was made close
to 20 years ago. I'll check it out more carefully on my next trip,
maybe even buy it.

Scott

    $20.99 at Rockit Records, opposite Pheasant Lane.
    
    Did anyone else notice the Dr Who theme about 2 minutes into "Meddle"?
    
    Andy

    What I think of "Delicate Sound of Thunder".
    
    I'm not what you would consider a "fan" of Pink Floyd. In fact,
    I thought "Dark Side of the Moon" was a load of crap, and I've
    never heard any of their other albums.
    
    But ..... based on the comments made in this note, I asked someone
    to record "Delicate .." so I could listen to the music rather than 
    the quality. I played the cassette twice, and began to appreciate the 
    performance - rough voices and all.
    
    I bought the CD at the weekend for five reasons ...
                                           
      . My CD collection was drifting into the cosy, safe area. I have
        tended to buy collections (best of ..., G.H., etc) because of
        the cost of CDs, the number of tracks on compilations, and I
        knew the content. The problem with playing safe is that you
        have very little contrast.
    
      . I think "Delicate ..." can be looked on as an "event" recording.    
    
      . On the whole, I like the content, and I think that it has enough 
        of a raw edge. Everytime I listen to it I hear something different 
        (including Dr. Who). 
    
      . I've always avoided LIVE performance recordings because they
        never came near the studio version I was used to. In this case
        I've never heard most of the tracks before - so I don't have
        that problem.
    
      . The sound quality and mixing are excellent.     
    
    As usual, the only gripe I have is the cost 17.99 POUNDS (31 dollars). 
    It's O.K. for you guys in the States, but it's rip-off time again in 
    the U.K.                                                        
    
    
    Ian K.
    

    It's rip-off time in the USA too - I saw it "on sale" for $29.99
    in two shops in the Pheasant Lane Mall yesterday.
    
    Mind you, $30 is still only about #20.
    
    A

    If it's from the last concert of theirs it has to be good!
    
    BTW, Noteworthy sells it for $21.48...

    RE .15
    
    	It's always nice to hear of someone else turning on to Pink
    Floyd.  I think this is a good record to bring in new recruits since
    it engulfs a good portion of their 20+ year history - sort of a
    Greatest Hits with an 80's flair.  Also, in regards to your comment
    about live alblums not sounding like the studio, I think (IMHO)
    that Pink Floyd is one of the few bands who are able to duplicate
    their sound in concert (RUSH is also quite good at this, but I can't
    vouch for thier "new direction").  Happy listening!
    
    p.s.    Doesn't "One of These Days..." predate Dr. Who?
    

    re: .17, Noteworthy isn't much good, then.
    
    re: .18 Dr WHo's first episode was November 23 1963, which predates
    Meddle by years!
    
    Andy

    I just ordered it for a Xmas present from Noteworthy.  $20.48 was the 
    price I paid.

    George

    I hate this conference - you're telling me prices that I can't get
    near and are at least five years away in the UK.  

    Re: -1
    
    It's �17.99 in "Our Price" Records, (aka W H Smith) in Reading. So it's
    not a GREAT price in comparison to the US price, but it's better than
    most UK Pricing I've seen.
    
    ANdy

        It was on sale at Lechmere for $19.95 (19.98?) for the
        last couple of days (hope my wife made it in there!)...

    I just bought it for Dfl (Dutch Florins - normally known as Guilders)
    69.95 here in the Netherlands. Roughly equivalent to $35.
    
    Rien.
    

    I got it for an x-mas present.....It was kinda nice listening to
    it while watching Alf deliver a baby last night.
    
    Stig