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1399.0. "DDD Magazine/CD Hotline" by HAZEL::STARR (Like a fool, fell in love with you...) Mon Nov 21 1988 11:49

Over the past weekend, I got a magazine in the mail entitled DDD Magazine.
It is a free publication put out to people who have called the CD Hotline
(sponsored locally by WBCN, although it is a national hotline). The cover
story is on the making of Eric Clapton's 'Crossroads' collection.

There is an interesting column in the magazine entitled 'Troubleshooters'.
It has information on CDs that have been released more than once by a
record comapny, with different mixes each time.

Some examples:

Blind Faith - originally, there were two extra tracks on the CD, but they
              were actually songs from Ric Gretch's solo LP, not Blind
              Faith. The new version drops those songs, and also uses a
              better source for a higher quality recording.

Cream - Disraeli Gears - remasterd and reissued. Original on RSO is 
        supposed to be aweful, the new one on Polydor is much better.

Byrds - both 'Original Singles' and 'Greatest Hits' are going to be 
        reissued soon by CBS with better sound quality.

Dylan - Blonde on Blonde - the original was cut by almost five minutes.
        CBS is rereleasing it complete, and allowing a free swap for
        owners of the old disk!

Fleetwood Mac - Rumours - In 1987, Warner released a newer version of this
                album that sounds 'significantly better' than the first.
                You can tell the new version because it has an 'RE-2' 
                in the matrix number on the disk.

U2 - Joshua Tree - The newer version, marked 'RE-1', was remixed by the
     band because it sounded too 'dense'.

Springsteen - Born To Run - The original version was mnaufactured in 
              Japan. The newer, improved version was manufactured in the
              U.S. According to DDD, make sure you get the latter.

The magazine also has articles on new technological developments, and 
reviews of CD's. And best of all, it is free! I suggest for more info, 
call the CD Hotline (1-800-CD-INFO-1 or 1-800-234-6361).

Alan S.

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1399.1		FSHQA2::SBEAUPRE	Duck and Cover	`Mon Nov 21 1988 13:51`	2
	Is there any information on the disc/packaging to indicate which "Blonde on Blonde" is the full version?
1399.2	each disk is marked....	HAZEL::STARR	Like a fool, fell in love with you...	`Mon Nov 21 1988 14:07`	16
	> Is there any information on the disc/packaging to indicate which > "Blonde on Blonde" is the full version? According to the article, the original version's running time is 67:14. The second version, which is currently out, has a "2" at the end of the matrix number (on the inner circle of the disk itself). The newer versions will have a "4" after the matrix number. Quoted from the article: "When this new version [#4] is available, consumers who purchased earlier versions can arrange for a free swap by contacting the marketing department at Columbia Records, 51 West 52nd Street, NY, NY 10019. This pertains to the dometic release only." Alan S.
1399.3	Any news about "Face the Music"?	BAVIKI::GOOD	Michael Good	`Tue Nov 22 1988 10:41`	20
	Alan, Thanks for the information. I'm going to call these folks later today to get my own copy, but I'll post this question here anyway: Did they mention anything about plans to re-release "Face the Music" by Electric Light Orchestra? They really butchered that in it's first release, chopping about 5 minutes of music off an album that was only about 40 minutes long in the first place! I returned it to the store (who took it back when I was persistent about it), but would still like to have a CD version of the entire album. I got Blonde on Blonde when it first came out on CD, so you already have good news for me. (I wasn't familiar with the LP version, so I didn't know there was music cut off until I read a review a month or so after I bought it.) Now I wonder if I can exchange my 2-CD version of Chicago II for the 1-CD version currently available - I think I'll be calling up CBS' CD number for more information. Michael
1399.4		HAZEL::STARR	Like a fool, fell in love with you...	`Tue Nov 22 1988 11:49`	17
	Well, nothing specifically about ELO, but this paragraph pertains to all CBS releases: "Preliminary research has revealed that when CBS Records began pressing CDs in the United States in the summer of 1984, new digital masters were delivered to the DADC plant in Indiana. In many cases, these masters were different from those previously delivered to CBS/Sony in Japan, and in some cases these new masters represented significant sonic improvements. These redone CDs include Bruce Springsteen's 'Born to Run' and Santana's 'Abraxas', as well as many titles from Bob Dylan and Billy Joel. Look for a full report on remastered CBS CDs in a future issue. In the meantime, I suggest you play it safe and only pruchase CBS products that were manufactured in the USA." Good luck - maybe ELO will be/is another one being remastered and reprinted! Alan S.
1399.5		HAZEL::STARR	Like a fool, fell in love with you...	`Tue Nov 22 1988 11:53`	11
	BTW, if there are any specific questions you have about certain disks, you can write to this 'Troubleshooters' column and ask. Troubleshooters DDD Magazine 43 Broadway N.Y., N.Y. 11211 The writer of the column is Steve Schechter. Alan S.
1399.6	Hype or what?	DECWET::THOMAS	Er, this is irrelevant, isn't it?	`Tue Nov 22 1988 14:13`	4
	So is this magazine marketing hype from CBS, or does it cover all labels? Mike
1399.7	not a marketing ploy - just informative	HAZEL::STARR	Like a fool, fell in love with you...	`Tue Nov 22 1988 15:10`	19
	> So is this magazine marketing hype from CBS, or does it cover all > labels? No, it is an independent publication, sponsored by various companies. It both praises and criticizes many of the labels. This issue alone dealt with Polygram, Sire, Columbia, Warner Bros., RCA, Capitol, and Island Records. Also, they had articles on hardware from companies such as Sony, Philips, Yamaha, Pioneer, and Hitachi. There are also articles on new technologies such as CD+G (CD Plus Graphics) and recordable CDs from Tandy. Another interesting note: Because of the complaints about the poor sound quality on Derek and the Dominoes 'Layla' CD, Polygram is thinking of putting out a deluxe boxed set of that CD (remixed from the original tapes, which they just found), and include a couple hours worth of unreleased songs and jamming that were found. Alan S.
1399.8	Yet another version?	RT3::STRATTON	I (heart) my wife	`Sun Nov 27 1988 21:18`	19
	re .2 and the Dylan CD _Blonde on Blonde_ - the copy I have has a total time of 71.31: >According to the article, the original version's running time is 67:14. >The second version, which is currently out, has a "2" at the end of the >matrix number (on the inner circle of the disk itself). The newer >versions will have a "4" after the matrix number. The only number on the "inner circle" is "DIDP 70406", followed by three-four "spaces" (one "space" = width of the previous characters), followed by "11". The disk also says "Made in USA". I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure I bought it at Tower Records in Boston in January, 1988. Jim Stratton
1399.9	dunno...	HAZEL::STARR	Like a fool, fell in love with you...	`Mon Nov 28 1988 07:48`	12
	> -< Yet another version? >- Hmmm, I must admit to being confused.....the info you provide doesn't match up with anything in the article! Maybe call the CD Hotline for more info, or CBS Records? Jeez, this is confusing, eh? BTW, I checked my copy of Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" - the "2" on the matrix number is quite obvious and visible. Alan S.
1399.10		USFSCR::RDONAHUE		`Mon Nov 28 1988 19:15`	9
	re: Blonde On Blonde I ordered "B O B" a few weeks ago from Noteworthy and it's the "4" version, clocking in at 73:13. A way to tell which version a disk is without having to buy it and look at the matrix number might be to look for song lengths on the back cover, unless they lied. One of the songs butchered on the first CD release was "Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands", and is listed with a time of 11:19 on mine.