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1378.0. "The Big Band Hit Parade" by VEEJAY::ECTOR (Nite of the living Cruizoids) Mon Nov 07 1988 10:43

    
    
    In deference to Kunzel, Telarc, et. al., I'm gonna give this particular
    disc its' own note, since it ultimately deserves it. 
    
    Over the last 6-7 years I've really grown to love much of the 30's/40's
    big band "hits." To a previous generation, they're called standards,
    but to me, they're still new, vibrant & exciting. Since the dawn
    of the digital age, there've been a few attempts to recapture the
    original, intended spirit of these tunes, which were really (I'm
    just guessing now) heard best in concert halls amidst crowds & dancing.
    Discs like "In the Digital Mood," a GRP cd by the Glenn Miller Orch
    (or what's left of this fine group), attempted duplication (including
    mistakes) of the studio recordings. This disc is fine, but because
    of the technology, sounds a bit to bright & brash - it's as if you're
    sitting or standing directly in front of the horn section. Well,
    I think I've discovered the disc that does it "right." 
    
    Telarc, Kunzel & the Cincinnati Pops Big Band Orchestra did a bash
    last spring and backed up the following artists:
    
    Doc Severinsen - Trumpet; Dave Brubeck - Piano; Buddy Morrow -
    Trombone; Gerry Mulligan - Baritone Sax; Eddie Daniels - clarinet;
    Ray Brown - Bass; Ed Shaughnessy - Drums; octogenerian, Cab Calloway
    - vocals.
    
    The titles on the disc, which fleshes out at around 68 minutes,
    are:
    
    In The Mood, Sentimental Journey, One O'Clock Jump, Caravan, Let's
    Dance, You Made Me Love You, Woodchoppers Ball, Take the 'A' Train,
    "Sing, Sing, Sing," Begin the Beguine, I'm Gettin' Sentimental Over
    You, "Well, Git It!," Artistry In Rhythm, Moonlight Serenade, St.
    James Infirmary and a 9 minute version of "When the Saints Go Marchin'
    In," which features each soloist.
    
    I lucked out & picked it up for $14.37, but even if you have to
    pay $15-17 for it, it's worth the change. Tommy Newsome, Jeff Tyzik
    & one other guy whose name escapes me do the arrangements. Calloway
    only sings on St. James & Saints, all the rest are strictly
    instrumental. The original artists, if alive today (I know a couple
    that still are) would have been proud. Kenton, for sure, would be
    very proud of this arrangement of "Artistry In Rhythm," his theme,
    which many say, caused the death of the big band era as dance music.
    
    What really makes this disc so exciting is the way in which it was
    recorded. Apparently, after the "live" concert was over & the crowd
    left, microphones were set up throughout the hall & the concert
    re-done. It was recorded in 24 tracks, but except for the final
    mix/edit, everything was 1 take only. When it opened with "In The
    Mood," I felt as if I were in the audience or towards the back of
    a vast hall, but without the echo-ey sound you'd normally experience.
    All the wind instruments were crisp sounding, without the overly
    bright highs - except for twice when "Doc" hit some mean high notes
    on purpose.
    
    The only thing missing from "You Made me Love You" was Judy Garland.
    I'm really surprised that Telarc didn't get Liza Minelli to do a
    vocal on that, but Severinsen holds his own - believe me.
    
    Brubeck, of course, does great on "A" Train, and Mulligan's
    Baritone adds great depth & flavor to all the tracks he appears on.
    I can't say enough about Eddie Daniel's clarinet, nor Shaughnessy's
    drums. Matter of fact, anything I could say, can't make it any better
    than it is in truth. It's typically Telarc clean & is, to me anyway,
    the closest thing to time travel back to what must've been one 
    fantastic era for music.
    
    Anyway, the title is "THE BIG BAND HIT PARADE" and is TELARC CD-80177.
    I recommend it even if you have only a passing interest in the big
    band era. If you're a big band fan, then you'll love alot of the
    "different" arrangements of these standards, because they retain
    the flavors of the originals, but contain their own character. Enjoy.
    
    				The Cruiser
    
    
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1378.1Not a CD, but...HPSMEG::LUKOWSKINat'l apathy week & nobody cares!Mon Nov 07 1988 15:059
      If you want to see the original artists of the Big Band era perform,
    TEMPO (cable channel) has a show that I believe is called 'Big Band
    Days' which airs about four times per week.  I don't have the times
    now but will post them in case anyone is interested.  Of course
    this stuff is in black & white and is not in stereo but is enjoyable
    neveretheless.
    
    -Jim
    
1378.2Big Band Days on TEMPOHPSMEG::LUKOWSKINat'l apathy week & nobody cares!Tue Nov 08 1988 08:144
      I was mistaken, the show airs 3 times/week.  The times are:
    Monday @9:00 PM, Friday @10:00 PM, and Sunday @8:00 PM.

    -Jim
1378.3Vintage Sound With ClarityASABET::MCLAUGHLINSkier au Mont FortThu Nov 17 1988 17:1118
    I finally located this disc and picked it up for only $11.98!  After
    a couple of listens, I have to agree that it was well done.  The disc 
    sounds a bit different from my other DDD big band discs, and I 
    figured out the reason:  An acoustic bass was used rather than an
    electric one.  The result is that the bass sound is never really
    strong, and sometimes does get lost in the mix.  That is fine with
    me though, as the disc has more of an authentic big band sound with
    strictly acoustic instruments employed.  If I want more bass, I'll
    just play something else!  I enjoy these remake discs very much, as 
    I never became accustomed to the original versions.  I have heard the 
    vintage recordings on CD, and as good as they are, I just cannot get 
    past the technical limitations of the recordings.  Big band purists
    may gag when they hear this DDD stuff, but these remakes are providing
    enjoyment and employment.
    
    Shawn
    
    
1378.4Not the SameGERBIL::LEVITTFri Nov 18 1988 14:3018
    I definitely don't agree with the reviews of this disk.  I bought the
    disk and traded it already.

    I have a good collection of LPs and CDs of Big Band music from the
    original masters.  It just isn't the same.

    I guess the best way I can describe it is: You Can't Go Back!!!

    There is a certain melancholy feeling about the old recordings that
    remind you of what the depression must have been like.  Doc Severenson
    etc. puts a 1950s tempo to the music that is all wrong.

    So, this is hard to express, but the music is technically perfect, and
    the CD is up to Telarc standards, but it isn't the same music.  It is
    recorded by a "pops" orchestra, and that's what it sounds like.

    Jeff
1378.5The original versions had "soul"POOL::CAFARELLAThu Dec 29 1988 11:0522
    
    I agree with .4. I haven't heard this particular disk, but about a year
    ago, I picked up the "In the Digital Mood" GRP recording (on tape). At
    the same time, I got a tape of original Glenn Miller recordings. I have
    played the original Miller stuff many, many times, but have rarely
    dragged out the GRP recording. This surprised me, because I expected to
    enjoy the GRP more, what with all the new recording techniques, etc.
    The difference can be summed up very briefly: the original versions had
    soul -- the new ones do not. There is a vibrancy and a verve to the
    originals which is totally lacking in the GRP versions. The GRPs are,
    of course, technically perfect, but lacking of any kind of feeling. I'm
    afraid it's a reflection of our times. I think if I had never heard the
    originals, I would have enjoyed the GRP versions, but, for those of you
    who haven't gone back to the originals, please give it a try. Pretend
    you are listening to the tunes through an AM radio where all that
    really matters is what the music does to you -- not its frequency
    response is.
    
    
    						Tom Caf.
    
    
1378.6Not the Glenn Miller Orchestra!CASEE::CLARKWard ClarkFri Dec 30 1988 13:1414
    I agree with the Tom (.5) -- the GRP "In the Digital Mood" is wonderful
    sound but no soul.

    A few nights ago, after watching "The Glenn Miller Story", I decided to
    give the GRP album another spin.  While I listened, I read thru the CD
    booklet again, and this time I discovered a reason for the lack of soul.

    Although the album claims to be by the Glenn Miller Orchestra, the list
    of musicians doesn't seem to agree -- it includes Steve Gadd, Phil Bodner,
    and a couple of others that I seriously doubt are part of the current
    GM band.  Although they are top notch players, they only played together
    for the 3 days of the recording session!!!

    -- Ward
1378.7Gonna get it anyway!!SCOMAN::PHILLIPSMusic of the spheres.Tue Jan 24 1989 16:446
    Call it lack of soul if you will - I bought the disc for my mother
    for Christmas, and she and I both LOVE it.  It's plain these guys
    are having a lot of fun making this music.  I s'pose I'd better
    return her copy and buy my own...
    
    					--Eric--