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Title:Welcome to the CD Notes Conference
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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Fri Mar 03 1989
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1517
Total number of notes:13349

1352.0. "Pioneer or Yamaha?" by GYPSY::GOULET () Thu Oct 20 1988 10:26

    I need HELP.. I have a Pioneer VSX3000 reciever at home and want
    to buy a CD player.. I know that its not necesssary to buy a Pioneer
    CD player but my reciever has a remote control with CD player control
    buttons on it. Do I need to buy a Pioneer for it to be compatible
    with the remote? Right now I'm trying to decide between the Pioneer
    or the Yamaha models. I called Lechmere and they have the PDM400
    for $299 and the PDM500 for $380. I don't know much about the different
    Yamaha models but I want multi-disk capacity and I want to keep
    the price between $300 and $400. Can anyone HELP me? 
    
    Decisions, Decisions.....
    
    Robin
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1352.1PioneerDELNI::GILEThe Time and Space OddityThu Oct 20 1988 11:108
    Robin, I have a Pioneer CD player, and they come with the interconnect
    cable to attach it to a Pioneer amp/receiver, so I suspect that
    you have to buy the Pioneer CD player to use your present remote.
    The good news is, the Pioneer CD player works great. the random
    play doesn't repeat tracks, and I like using the 6 pack cartridge.
    
    
              Wayne
1352.2Yamaha and Pioneer will not work togetherSSDEVO::ALDENThu Oct 20 1988 12:2514
    If the player has its own IR (Ifra Red) pick-up then the
    interconnecting cable is not needed (I think the PDM500 has one
    and the PDM400 does not).  Even with its own pick-up though, in
    general remotes made by one manufacture will only work with products
    made by them (unless it is specifically called a "Universal" remote).
    The only exception to this is "manufactures" whos products are actually
    made by the same mother company.  For example, Mashushita (sp?)
    makes the brands:  Pioneer, Magnovox, GE (others?), and the remotes
    for each of these Brands will work together.  
    
    BTW - Yamaha and Pioneer are not (as far as I know :-) made by the
    same company.
    
    Todd
1352.3RE .1GYPSY::GOULETThu Oct 20 1988 13:1414
    Thank you for the quick replies!!! 
    
    
    Wayne, 
    
    Which model Pioneer CD player do you have?  From other notes in
    this conference I have found there are PDM600 and PDM700 but Lechmere
    only had PDM400 and PDM500.. I just went to Tweeter(now called Cookie)
    and they don't have any multi-disk players in my price range. Do
    you know of any stores that carry Pioneer other than Lechmere?
    
    
    Thanks again..   
                   
1352.4PD M40DELNI::GILEThe Time and Space OddityThu Oct 20 1988 15:035
    I have last years model PD M40, which I believe is the
    equivelant of the PD M400, no remote. I bought it a year
    ago, believe it or not, at Sears. 
    
            Wayne
1352.5One Stop ShoppingSALEM::SWALKERTue Nov 15 1988 08:566
    
    Try looking at Service Merchandise.  They frequently have CD players
    on sale.
    
    
                        Steve
1352.6Random/Shuffle PlayATREUS::MARINERWed Dec 07 1988 12:5210
    Re: 1352.1
    
    I also have a Pioneer CD, 6 pack cartridge player.  I use Random Play
    all the time and love it but what is shuffle play?  Can we do that with
    the Pioneer 6 pack player?
    
    Is is the same as random?  I guess I'm stupid.
    
    ML
    
1352.7CSC32::J_PARSONSLike Lesser Birds on the 4 Winds...Wed Dec 07 1988 13:136
    re .6
    
    Shuffle play is Sony's version of random play. It's distinguishing
    feature is that it doesn't remember which tracks it has already
    played and is prone to repeat tracks frequently after a majority
    of the selections have been played.
1352.8Maybe I'm INCREDIBLY lucky! 8^)EUCLID::OWENIn a Locst wind coms a RATTLE AND HUMWed Dec 07 1988 13:194
    I have a sony, and have never NEVER **NEVER** had a track repeat
    while in shuffle mode!
    
    Steve O
1352.9QUARK::LIONELAd AstraWed Dec 07 1988 16:3610
    Re: .7, .8
    
    The behavior noted apparently only applies to certain Sony
    carousel-model CD changers (CDP-C50, CDP-C70 and CDP-C7ESD), according
    to reports elsewhere in this conference.  The complaint is that
    these players randomly select a disc, then randomly select a track,
    without remembering what they have played before.  In the single-disc
    players, this behavior is not present.
    
    				Steve
1352.10SIngle disc shuffle on multi-player is okGLASS::HULLHallalujah!! The Resurrection (Plan A) has come!Wed Dec 07 1988 21:2410
    The shuffle works great even on the carousel models, when only playing
    *1* disk (same as a single-disc player).  In that mode you can watch
    the remainig track numbers slowly disappear as they are played.

    Only SONY's *multi-disc* shuffle is brain-dead.

    Regards,

	Al - a CDP C70 owner - I still love it - despite the lobotomy