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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
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Total number of notes:13349

1308.0. "Peter Gabriel early CD's...when?" by SOFBAS::JOHNSON (in 70mm with 6-track Dolby Stereo) Tue Aug 30 1988 10:49

    
    Does anybody know why Atlantic hasn't released Peter Gabriel's first
    two albums on CD here in the U.S.?  Apparently they exist as imports,
    but even those are tough to find -- I sure haven't succeeded yet. Maybe
    Atlantic is dragging its heels because PG is on Geffen now, but that
    seems pretty darned silly to me.  They still distribute PGI and II on
    LP/cassette.
    
    Atlantic just released Genesis' "Foxtrot" and "Live" on CD (right
    after I ran the gauntlet to get 'em as imports -- thanks a lot!)
    so perhaps that's a good sign.
    
    If one writes to a record company asking "when do you plan to release
    so-and-so," is there a finite probability of getting a response?
    
    Matt
    
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1308.1Gabriel-SoCGVAX2::HARRISWed Aug 31 1988 07:339
    MATT-
    
    Th first PG album should be avialable as a domestic in a couple
    of weeks. No word on the 2nd album yet. They are all available as
    you know as imports. You should check out Rockit Records in south
    Nashua. That's where I found this out.
    
    Ann
    
1308.2A PG/Genesis Ramble !CSC32::A_PARRACOThe Mousepolice never sleep ...Mon Sep 05 1988 09:4937
    
    Matt,
    
    I collected all the Genesis, and P.G. discs as imports, which was
    a matter of pride for a while (need to find Trespass tho' !).
    
    In my opinion, PG I is sort of a novelty, PG II finds him sorting
    out (and in some cases finding) his own style, and PG III is where
    he really hits his stride ! I still think this is his best solo
    effort, even though I love Security and So .....
    
    The Birdy soundtrack has some interesting stuff, and now the "Last
    Temptation ..." soundtrack should be out soon .... I also am quite
    fond of PG Plays Live, I have both the full 2-disc set, as well
    as an import compilation (70+ minutes, single disc).
    
    And as I continue to digress, I think PG is the finest artist in
    the world today, but I disagree with everyone who says that Genesis
    stopped being Genesis after Pete left, I know it stopped being
    the "essence of Genesis" when Steve Hackett left, after the Wind
    and Wuthering album. There is nothing Mike Rutherford/Daryl Stuermer
    can do to re-create that famous Hackett-sound. And Phil did not
    start over-extending his voice until the "And then ...", "Duke",
    and "Abacab" albums ...... even if there are a couple of nice cuts
    on these releases.
    
    On a less pleasant note, apparently PG's personal life is in some
    turmoil, with rumors/stories of his involvement with Rosanna Arquette
    rampant in the music rags .... He has been married to his wife Jill
    for almost 20 years (with some stormy periods ....). Oh well, let's
    wait and see what the new album is like ... he almost takes as long
    as Donald Fagen/Steely Dan does to release new material .... !
    
    Regards,
    
    - Andy
    
1308.3LESLIE::LESLIEAndy ��� Leslie, CSSE (Europe)Mon Sep 05 1988 11:472
    PG will have to bring out a new album soon.... he's run out of money
    for his new recording studio, according to a mutual acquaintance.
1308.4SOFBAS::JOHNSONin 70mm with 6-track Dolby StereoTue Sep 06 1988 11:0343
    
    ...as I understand it, he's got his next album (more or less) ready;
    completion and release are simply being held up while he's on the
    road with Amnesty.  I can't wait ... although in my humble opinion,
    "So" -- while undeniably superb -- isn't as strong as I, III, or
    IV.  Then again, "weak" Peter Gabriel is a relative term, and still
    blows the doors off of 99.9% of the modern music market.
    
    (re: .2)  I do have I and II on tape; I just want to find them on CD
    since the sound quality, even of dubs from vinyl, leaves a good deal to
    be desired.  Frankly, I love PG I (the technical nomenclature,
    apparently, is "The Rain-On-Pete's-Car One") and think it's up there
    with III and IV as his best work.  "Here Comes the Flood" is arguably
    one of his very best songs (although I understand that PG himself
    prefers the solo-piano-and-Frippertronics version on Fripp's "Exposure"
    album) and "Excuse Me" cracks me up every time I hear it.  I think
    the album also stands as a nice contrast to his later works: not
    only can he do the fancy polyethnic rhythms, but the man can also
    rock out with the best of them.
    
    PG II, though ("The Pete-Scratches-Through-The-Album-Cover One")
    -- while it has some great songs, witness "Mother of Violence" and
    "White Shadow" -- doesn't really do as much for me as his other
    stuff.  As much as I like Robert Fripp, I think he did Gabriel
    something of a disservice in the way he produced this album.  I
    find the second side sort of runs together forgettably, and the
    vocals seem really badly mixed -- almost lost -- throughout the
    whole thing.  (I don't care ... I still want it on CD!)
    
    Anyway, thanks .1 -- I'm heartened that they _will_ be coming out
    at some point, perhaps even soon, and I can stop running around
    like a maniac trying to get them as imports.
    
    I second the motion from some reply before:  in my humble opinion,
    Peter Gabriel is the Numero Uno musician working today.  (Sweeping
    Statement #35)
    
    Anybody know anything more definite about his new album?  Rumors?
    Swiped demo tapes?  The new year is looking pretty good, with new
    PG and new Kate Bush on the horizon.
    
    Matt
        
1308.5A word to the wise...BRONS::BURROWSJim BurrowsTue Sep 06 1988 11:224
        Certainly no one here has "swiped demo tapes",nor would offer
        them through a DEC-owned conference if they did, right?
        
        JimB.
1308.6:-)LESLIE::LESLIEAndy ��� Leslie, CSSE (Europe)Tue Sep 06 1988 11:473
    Certainly not, that would be illegal!
    
    Gosh no!
1308.7SOFBAS::JOHNSONin 70mm with 6-track Dolby StereoWed Sep 07 1988 10:556
    
    Whoops, how illegal of me!  I massively retract that statement with
    all the power at my command!!
    
    Matt
    
1308.8SOFBAS::JOHNSONin 70mm with 6-track Dolby StereoTue Sep 20 1988 16:3315
    
    ... on a related note, in case anybody might happen to wander by here
    again ... (and since DREGS::MUSIC has gone lamentably south :-) 
    
    I heard a newsblurb somewhere that Geffen has decided, in its infinite
    wisdom, that it's not going to release PG's soundtrack for "Last
    Temptation."  Is this true?  I didn't catch the whole blurb so my
    facts might be wrong, but their stated justification seemed to be
    that movie soundtracks (ones without Berlin on them, anyhow) don't
    really sell.  If this is indeed what they claimed, obviously this
    isn't the _real_ reason.  (They couldn't have lost _that_ much money
    on "Birdy" ...)  Just what in Sam Hill is going on here?
    
    Matt
    
1308.9Two halfs make a whole??DRUID::TRUEBLOODgopher brokeWed Sep 21 1988 14:276
    I missed the begining bit, but what I heard was Geffen insisting
    they would release the soundtrack, but not until later this year.
    They claimed that PG hadn't started/finished mixing prior to the
    Amnesty tour, he'd finish it after that. For whatever that's worth....

    DougT
1308.10SOFBAS::JOHNSONin 70mm with 6-track Dolby StereoFri Sep 23 1988 08:0219
    
    ...hmm, maybe that's it.  But the guy who was relating the newsblurb
    (maybe it was one of the MTVoids) seemed kind of steamed and made
    some comment like "well, I guess we know what that says about Geffen,"
    which is what made me think this was some kind of scuzzball
    record-company move, not simply a delay by PG himself.
    
    Now, let's see; there's another rumor, heard from a different source,
    that PG's "next album" is ready to go and awaiting final mix-down when
    he gets done with Amnesty.  I guess it's possible that the "new album"
    is the LToC soundtrack ... (darn!  Although I haven't seen the movie
    yet, is it a good score?  The "Birdy" music was great for the movie,
    but it _was_ mostly remakes ... I want a "real" PG album!  And I want
    PG-1 on CD!  And I want him to stop hanging around with Rosanna
    Arquette!  I want to control _my_ rock stars' lives!!  I'm writing my
    congressman!!) 
    
    Matt
    
1308.11TLE::WARDJohn WardFri Sep 23 1988 12:5427
    Re: < Note 1308.10 by SOFBAS::JOHNSON "in 70mm with 6-track Dolby Stereo" >

    > [...] Although I haven't seen the movie
    > yet, is it a good score?

    I've seen the movie, and I think the score is fantastic.  I especially
    enjoyed the music played during the end credits.

    I wouldn't compare this soundtrack to that of "Birdy".  It's all original
    and carries the film much better than the "Birdy" score did [in my
    opinion].  With "Birdy", I was too familiar with most of the music already
    and couldn't remove from my mind the `imagery' that I had already planted
    there.  [Which makes sense, since most of the music wasn't originally
    written for the film.]

    > I want a "real" PG album!

    Indeed, I also look forward to the next music sans film.  However, I look
    forward to the release of the LToC soundtrack (in high-quality, digital
    audio form) as a "real" PG album.

    > And I want him to stop hanging around with Rosanna Arquette!

    Remember, a beautiful woman can inspire equally beautiful music!
    Selfish, I know...  8^)

    John
1308.12in storesCGVAX2::HARRISMon Oct 03 1988 09:214
    NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!
    
    The 1st PG album (rain on car) should be on stores tomorrow.
       
1308.13Need Help finding SCRATCH, BIRDY, and CHRISTEUCLID::OWENIn a Locst wind coms a RATTLE AND HUMMon Nov 28 1988 10:029
    I got The first album a few days ago (CAR) and am still looking
    for the second (SCRATCH).
    
    Has anyone recently seen it?  
    
    How about "The Last Temptation of Christ" soundtrack?  Any word?
    Also, Is the "Birdy" soundtrack available on disc?
    
    Steve O
1308.14TLE::WARDJohn WardMon Nov 28 1988 12:3512
    Re: .-1

    > How about "The Last Temptation of Christ" soundtrack?  Any word?

    It's supposed to be released sometime in January.

    > Also, Is the "Birdy" soundtrack available on disc?

    Yes.  You should be able to find it in any store that carries UK imports.

    John

1308.15LESLIE::LESLIEAndy ��� Leslie, MIG/WACE/VMS CSSEMon Nov 28 1988 12:502
    If you find Birdy difficult, I can bring it over next Thursday (8th),
    when I visit the US once more. Mail me after the w/e if you want this.