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1255.0. "Regular Sony CDPs vs. ES" by AQUA::ROST (Obedience to the law guarantees freedom) Thu Jul 07 1988 09:14

    
    Sony has been selling two lines of CD players, the "regular" CDP
    models and the ES series, for a while now.  Within these two lines
    there are a few models that overlap.  

    I've been looking at the CDP-750 and the 207ES and they are the
    same machine apparently except for the following:
    
    	1.  The ES has direct digital outputs
    
    	2.  The ES has a three year warranty
    
    Now, Sony will sell me an extended three year warranty for $80 which
    includes a free CD (yawn) and free annual realignments (if I want
    them).
    
    The price differential between the two models is less than $80 and
    I *am* interested in an extended warranty...as an engineer I have
    no faith in all this high tech stuff  8^)  8^)  8^)

    I'm sure that some others have faced this dilemma, maybe even with
    the same unit.  Should I just buy the ES or should I save my money
    and hope the 750 without the extra warranty doesn't break down?
    
    
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1255.1Geez, I got the warranty for less.HPSCAD::WALLDesperado Under the EavesThu Jul 07 1988 12:416
    
    I bought a 750 last night from Lechmere's in the Greendale Mall
    and got an extended warranty for $35, and a free CD (a special
    promotion from, snicker snicker, Nimbus Records).
    
    DFW
1255.2ASD::BOOTHFri Jul 08 1988 11:5321
Re. .0 : In addition to the differences you list, I believe that ES-series
players use "hand picked" components (at least in key areas) to prevent the
possibility of multiple components being at the extremes of their individual
tolerances and resulting overall in an out-of-tolerance parameter.

Also, each player is shipped with a small spec sheet reporting actual
measurements of certain parameters (e.g. frequency response) for that player.

Finally, I believe the 3 year warranty you mention applies both to parts
and labour.

I've owned a CDP-520ES for several years now and it's performed flawlessly.
However, I wouldn't argue strongly in favour of paying a lot of extra dollars
over a non-ES identical machine - I think Sony had some teething problems
a few years ago with alignment which might have made the longer warranty
look more attractive than it does today. 

However, if the ES player has digital outputs plus the other ES attributes
we've listed, then for a fairly small extra cost it may be worth it to you.

Antony.
1255.3I like themFACT01::LAWRENCEJim/Hartford A.C.T.,DTN 383-4523Fri Jul 22 1988 10:4312
    
    The ES series is their high-end line.  There are many extras in
    the ES line that you don't find in the cheaper line.  Like copper
    shielding in some ES units, heavier chassis construction, much better
    analog sections, separate power feeds for the different sections,
    etc.  You get what you pay for.  I own a 605ESD and it's just
    wonderful. Hasn't skipped a beat in a year or a thousand plays.
     Great sound, very flexible.  If you can afford the ES line, it's
    worth it.
    
    Jim
    
1255.4Not much difference....SNDCSL::SMITHIEEE-696Tue Sep 20 1988 10:329
    I got the schematics for my CDP-C70, which includes the ES model,
    and the only difference I could find was a handfull of parts (a
    7404 for a buffer and an RF transformer plus a few passives and
    the connector) for the digital output.  The parts lists are identical,
    with the above exceptions.  I'm considering adding the parts, but
    I'm not sure what I'd do with a digital output....
    
    Willie
    
1255.5Looking for Sony CDP-7ESDPDVAX::P_DAVISPeter DavisThu Dec 15 1988 11:1810
    The latest Consumer Reports rates single and multi-disc cd players, and
    their highest rating goes to the Sony CDP-7ESD.  Now I don't normally
    regard Consumer Reports as the ultimate authority in electronice, but
    in this case, their recommendation seems to jibe with others I've
    heard.
    
    Does anyone know where in Nashua to get one of these for a good price?
    
    Thanks.
    -pd
1255.6QUARK::LIONELAd AstraThu Dec 15 1988 19:094
    The Sony ES series is only sold at "selected" dealers, and usually
    for list price.  I am not aware of any ES dealers in the Nashua area.
    
    			Steve
1255.7Any recommended dealers?PDVAX::P_DAVISPeter DavisFri Dec 16 1988 07:385
    Well, how about any "ES" dealers in the Eastern Massachusetts or
    Southern New Hampshire area?  New York?  Mail order?
    
    Thanks.
    -pd
1255.8In WorcesterAQUA::ROSTMarshall rules but Fender controlsFri Dec 16 1988 08:504
    
    High Fidelity House on Park Ave. in Worcester sells Sony ES.

    
1255.9Marlboro, MassASD::BOOTHFri Dec 16 1988 09:597
    I bought my ES player more than 2 years ago from a stereo store in 
    Marlboro Mass, downtown on Main Street. I'm afraid I forget their name
    but if they're still there they should be listed in the phone
    book. One advantage was not having to pay Mass sales tax by simply
    demonstrating that I was a NH resident. 
    
    Antony.
1255.10Sorry, No ES In Marlboro AnymoreAQUA::ROSTMarshall rules but Fender controlsFri Dec 16 1988 12:109
    
    Hi Fi Listening Shop in Marlboro recently changed hands.  I have
    bought from the new owner but only time will tell if he willl be
    as good as Kevin, the old owner.  
    
    Kevin stopped being an ES dealer earlier this year as Sony pulled the
    franchise on ES stuff since he was not selling enough!!!  They do carry
    normal line Sony and Kevin was in the process of trying to be
    reinstated as an ES dealer when he sold the place. 
1255.11Try Q Audio in CambridgeIAMOK::ROSENBERGDick Rosenberg VRO5-1/D6Fri Dec 16 1988 12:261
    
1255.12CANDY::CASTIGLIONEHeavy Metal ThunderMon Dec 19 1988 12:533
    Coumos on RT 28 in Salem, NH
    
    
1255.13Cuomo's didn't have ES last I checkedQUARK::LIONELAd AstraMon Dec 19 1988 13:186
Re: .12

Last time I was at Cuomo's (October), they did not carry the ES line.  Has
this recently changed?

				Steve
1255.14Sony information number?PDVAX::P_DAVISPeter DavisMon Dec 19 1988 13:3911
    Re/ .12, .13:
    
    I just called Cuomo's and was told they do NOT carry the ES line.
    
    So, is that it?  A place in Worcester, a place in Marlboro, and a place
    in Cambridge?  Does anyone have a number for Sony so I can call and ask
    them?  I just tried 800 information but they claimed to have no listing
    for Sony.
    
    Thanks.
    -pd
1255.15800-222-SONYQUARK::LIONELAd AstraMon Dec 19 1988 20:511
    
1255.16AUGGIE::SEGOOLTue Dec 20 1988 06:027
    
    Sound & Music in Northampton carries the Sony ES line. Nice people
    to deal with if it isn't to far out of your way.
    tel. # 413-584-9547.
    good luck .
    
    Mike