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1239.0. "The Ring Without Words" by HPSCAD::WALL (Desperado Under the Eaves) Mon Jun 27 1988 14:56

    The Ring Without Words
    Lorin Maazel, Berliner Philharmoniker
    Telarc CD-80154
    DDD
    
    Tracking (summarized)
    
    1-4		from Das Rheingold
    5-9		from Die Walk�re
    10-14	from Siegfried
    15-19	from G�tterd�mmerung
    
    Total Time: 69:40
    
    Capsule Review: Wagner purists will probably like this more than
    the other discs of its type.  For people who want a disc with a
    window-shattering version of Ride of the Valkyries, go get Szell
    and the Cleveland Symphony.
    
    There are a lot of discs of this kind.  Basically, they fall into
    a category that William Goldman might have titled:
    
    "Richard Wagner's Ring of the Niebelungs: The Good Parts"
    
    or more generally
    
    "An Excuse to Conduct and Play The Ride of the Valkyries"
       
    	Now, call me culturally retarded, but if it wasn't for discs
    like this I probably would never listen to Wagner.  I would be the
    first to acknowledge the artistic achievement the Ring Cycle
    represents, but I couldn't sit through the operas to please a dying
    grandfather.  Maybe when I'm older.
    
    	I already have one of these -- the CBS "Great Performances"
    recording by George Szell and the Cleveland Symphony Orchestra.
    I love it madly, except for the background noise.  It's an old
    recording, though, so I accept it.
    
    	Now along comes Telarc with this CD, done by Maazel and the
    Berliner Philharmoniker.  Knowing what a good job Telarc does making
    noiseless recordings, and liking what I've heard of the conductor
    and the orchestra, I took a chance.
    
    	I'm not exactly displeased.  If the liner notes are to believed,
    Maazel went to considerable effort to adhere to Wagner's original
    score as much as possible, and to stick only to music that is purely
    orchestral, as much as possible.  The result is a sort of "Reader's
    Digest Condensed Compositions" of the cycle.  The music is divided
    into 20 tracks, but they are played without pause and it sounds
    a little bit bizarre on something like shuffle mode.
    
    	It doesn't move me the way the Szell recording does.  I can
    see the purists shaking their heads.  It is obvious, even with my
    infantile knowledge of the operas as operas, that Szell took liberties
    with the score.  However, I think it made for a better album than
    Maazel's effort.
    
    I guess I'd give the recording quality a 10, but the performance
    only about a 7.  Wagner purists and people who know more about the
    music than I do may give it a higher rating.
    
    DFW
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1239.1What Stereophile thoughtSUCCES::MATTINGLYFri Sep 09 1988 16:4446
    Well, I'd say more than just the purists are shaking their heads.
    Liberace used to provide his listeners with more enjoyable per-
    formances of Beethoven by "taking out the slow, boring parts."
    Would you call someone displeased by that practice a purist?
     A Wagner purist, if we're not to abuse the term, might be someone
    who insists that the 4 music dramas be presentes on successive 
    evenings, or that a live bear be used in Siegfrieds taunting of
    Mime (as the composer directed), but, well.....here's what the
    reviewer for Stereophile had to say.(OCT 1988)
    
    Maazel's concept is mildly interesting; a seamless "suite" some 70
comprised of Der Ring Des Nibelungen's greatest hits, every note of
it Wagner's own. The reality, however, is a new nadir in Telarc's
seemingly never-ending search for tastelessness.
 Bleeding chunks, indeed. To the serious Wagner listener, the standard
concert excerpts- The entry of the Gods into Valhalla, the Ride of the
Valkyries, the Forest Murmurs, Siegfried's Rhine Journey, and the Funeral
March- are wrenching enough, as often as not conducted by those with little
or no knowledge of the Ring's overall architecture, let alone the signif-
icance of the many leitmotifs that appear even in these brief edits.But
at least these standard selectione, arranged for the most part by Wagner
himself, are (with the exception of the Rhine Journey\Funeral March) lifted
whole cloth from the ring.Not so in this "medley". The seams are ragged,
square-holed/round-pegged, ill-fitting at best. If Wagner's was "the art of 
transition", arranger Maazel's is the art, no better than tape-splicing, of
jarring, continuity-destroying juxtaposition.
 This might have been less offensive had Maazel's conducting been more
incisive and less hacking, had he been interested in something besides
rushing off to the next overblown climax. But Maazel waxes bellicose, bone-
crushing, and boorish, reducing Wagner's rich, fascinating music to a bad
film score. Even Maazel's humorous liner notes have more lasting value, and
the BPO may as well be the Cincinatti Pops. I'd much rather have had a "Ring
without Words" than what Telarc has given us; a Ring without Music.
 What's the point? Surely Wagner's Music is well known enough by now to be
spared such CLASSICS ILLUSTRATED treatment. This is the sort of thing that
only Stokowski could have pulled off. Maybe. Those unfamiliar with or
predudiced against Wagner's music will only have their worst preconceptions
confirmed here. Granted it's interesting to hear a few passages you'll never
have heard without singers, but all that does is underline just how important
the voices really are in Wagner's music dramas.(As do Maazel's pale substi-
tutions of instruments in vocal lines)
 The sound is bloated, puffed up, suffering obesely from mid-range bulge. 
Sure, the tympani are great, and the engineers have fun with the thunder
and the Nibelung's anvils, but this release is handled with all the sonic
finesse of Hollywood's Greatest Hits and Roundup. Enough already, Telarc.
-Richard Lehnert
1239.2DSSDEV::CHALTASThere ain't no Sanity ClauseSat Sep 10 1988 13:4011
    If you want 'bleeding chunks' of the ring, I suggest the following:
    
    Klauss Tennstedt and the Berlin Philharmonic on EMI
     or
    Zubin Mehta (really!) and the NY Philharmonic on  CBS (now a budget
    release.
    
    I don't reccomend Solti's recording of the chunks -- it's oddly
    lifeless (considering that his complete recording of the Ring
    from the sixties is so wonderful).
    
1239.3Solti On The Road.CTHULU::YERAZUNISTECO: The Tyrannosaurus Rex of editors.Thu Sep 15 1988 15:097
    Strange, I have both the full Solti Ring(london) and the Chunky
    Solti, and I find them both very enjoyable (chunky Solti in the
    car, and Classic Solti at home)
    
    I guess it's a matter of taste...