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re Note 1189.0 by STAR::PACIELLO:

>     Of all places, I found the 472 at
>     Montgomery Wards (it's on sale right now for $179!). 

Are you sure that that's the price at Wards _now_?  I was encouraged by your
note, and went right up to the Wards at the Nashua Mall (Exit 6).  They had a
"sale" sign on the 472, but the price listed was $199!  I asked the sales
person to check, and that was the correct price.

So how did you do it?

Bob

P.S.  Don't go to the Nashua Montgomery Wards unless you have a LOT of time. 
They are slow, especially at the parcel pick-up.  I had one person ahead of me
for both the sales person and the pick-up, and it took me almost an hour!

I recently bought a Magnavox 560, and just yesterday I got a Magnavox 472.  I
am planning on returning the 560.  But I was curious and compared the specs as
listed in the two manuals:

                                560                  472
Amplitude Linearity             �0.2dB (20-20kHz)    �0.1dB (20-20kHz)
Phase Linearity                 �0.5�                �0.5�
Dynamic Range                   96dB                 > 96dB
Signal-Noise Ratio              101dB                > 100dB
Channel Separation              100dB                > 96dB
Total Harmonic Distortion       .0025%               < .003%

The 472 has a headphone jack, the 560 does not.

The 472 has a drawer that you can "push" in, the 560's must be closed with the
"open/close" button (I find that annoying).

The 560 has more functions on the remote control.  In particular, the 560 can
do the "search" function remotely, whereas the 472 cannot.

The 560 has the "traditional" LED illuminating the disk which you can see
through a clear window on the drawer.  With the 472, you can't see if a disk is
inserted or spinning.

The price for both (that I paid) was the same -- $199.

Any comments?

Bob

    Bob,
    
       They must have raised the price...It definately was $179.00...My
    guess is that they caught on that they were selling this model at
    a relatively cheap price. I was so surprised that I took my wife
    to prove it to her...Also, just before I decided to return my 470,
    I called Monty's to verify the price. The salesman assured me that
    is was $179. That has got to be a steal. Actually, $199 isn't bad
    either....
    
       Thanks for printing the specs...I read in the AUDIO notes file
    yesterday that the playing quality between the 560, 465, 470, 472,
    and 473 is equal...With some you get a few more options...I do have
    one question that someone may be able to answer...I noticed that
    my 472 has a small window with the acronym, FTS. I've heard that
    this means "Favorite Track Selection"...However, the Magnavox
    documentation says nothing about it and I have no idea whether it
    is operative.
    
    I spent most of the night recording CD's...I just can't  get enough
    of a good thing.
    
    Mike

re Note 1189.2 by XANADU::FLEISCHER:

> The 560 has more functions on the remote control.  In particular, the 560 can
> do the "search" function remotely, whereas the 472 cannot.

I note that the 472 responds to all the extra 560 remote functions properly,
including search.  I wonder how much a 560 remote costs?


> The 560 has the "traditional" LED illuminating the disk which you can see
> through a clear window on the drawer.  With the 472, you can't see if a disk is
> inserted or spinning.

The drawer on the 472 seems more rugged than the 560's drawer.

Bob

    From everything that I've read, the 472 is a better machine
    "physically". Aren't there a lot of plastic parts on the 560?
    
    I'm going to give my 472 a real "quality" test tonight. I just
    received a TELARC Mastered CD today. My understanding is that 
    these CD's are top-of-the-line for CD production. It's pure a
    digital master.
    
    Mike

    re: 560
    I picked mine up at Service Merchandise a month or so ago. I paid
    $116.+ (10% off the sale price of $129), so that should be weighed
    when comparing the 560 and 47x. Given that they are so close, or
    better spec-wise, and the added remote functionality, I'd have to
    give the nod to the 560.
    
    John

    
    I agree, for that price...However, I also understand that Service
    Merchandise ran that sale to clear out the model; they don't sell
    it anymore...Everyone else that does sells it for the same price
    as the 472.
    
    
    Mike

    Where *is* Service Merchandise?

    re .8:
    
    there's a service merchandise store in a shopping center on the
    northeast corner of the intersection of rts 495 & 38  (i think it's
    exit 38)...  traffic there is awful anytime close to rush hour.